Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

billybonkers · 08-09-2020 03:53PM

Lockdown everything sure

TonyMaloney · 08-09-2020 03:53PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Good numbers. Should be back to the hundred cases or so tomorrow not that the back log is cleared. Might take the heat out of the discussion.

We've been experiencing doubling in cases every twenty something days for months now.
What makes you think they're on the way back down?

Even if we weren't opening schools, colleges and pubs - why would we be expecting a drop of any kind?

Non solum non ambulabit · 08-09-2020 03:53PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Why would there be riots exactly?
Dublin is the outlier, you need to close it down,

If it was any other county they wouldn't even be a discussion of this level

"Oh we can't anger the Dubs, but everywhere else is fine" is not an approach to target a virus

Kildare, Carlow and Limerick have more cases per 100K so it is hardly an outlier

ACitizenErased · 08-09-2020 03:53PM

Pfizers say today that there’s a 60% chance it’ll be ready to go in October.

08-09-2020 03:55PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Lockdown everything sure

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blowitupref · 08-09-2020 03:55PM

snowgal wrote: »

did you hear about these beers too or are you going on other posters post? just wondering if its definite, I know ppl who will freak when they hear....

They will be left a little confused if you tell them 119 of the 308 are from the last 24hrs?

s1ippy · 08-09-2020 03:56PM

Incredibly sh!t awful news coming from possibly Tallagh ICU where there is a young child fighting covid.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/toddler-fighting-life-after-contracting-18898885

Hopefully hopefully they'll make a full recovery as they're young, crossing fingers tight. Small children, babies and people with special needs are the most innocent in all of this. It should be up to the rest of us to do everything conceivably possible to protect them.

ACitizenErased · 08-09-2020 03:57PM

Not sure why people associate restrictions in Dublin = lockdown?

Restrictions can be introduced on gatherings, time limits in pubs etc. Far from a feckin lockdown.

Any mentions of restrictions to protect people in dear old Dublin = being jumped on

08-09-2020 03:59PM

The "LOK" down appeared to have worked. But really all that happened was we got the meat factory clusters and close contacts under control.

I don't think there is a particular area causing the cases in Dublin. So I don't think a lockdown would work.

Unless they are willing to close all schools, retail, restaurants, businesses and start paying lots of PUP payments again.

drunkmonkey · 08-09-2020 04:00PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Incredibly sh!t awful news coming from possibly Tallagh ICU where there is a young child fighting covid.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/toddler-fighting-life-after-contracting-18898885

Hopefully hopefully they'll make a full recovery as they're young, crossing fingers tight. Small children, babies and people with special needs are the most innocent in all of this. It should be up to the rest of us to do everything conceivably possible to protect them.

How do they know the kid is on deaths door, they have no idea they made it up. More scaremongering.

stephenjmcd · 08-09-2020 04:00PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Pfizers say today that there’s a 60% chance it’ll be ready to go in October.

Yup should they get the data together in time and all trials complete without issue they could look for approval in October and they say an initial 100m doses by year end. 1.3 billion throughout 2021

PCros · 08-09-2020 04:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The "LOK" down appeared to have worked. But really all that happened was we got the meat factory clusters and close contacts under control.

I don't think there is a particular area causing the cases in Dublin. So I don't think a lockdown would work.

Unless they are willing to close all schools, retail, restaurants, businesses and start paying lots of PUP payments again.

I'd put money on it that most of the cases are now house gatherings/parties.

big syke · 08-09-2020 04:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I was calling a lockdown in Carlow weeks ago, if you didn’t notice. Limerick’s numbers per 100,000 are virtually the same as Dublin. If one goes, the other will too.

Kildare and Tip 14 day similar too no?

Fair enough but now you are only banging the Dublin drum not the limerick

Leitrim, Galway and Kerry are also +200% on the prior fortnight interesting to see the 14 day per 100,000. Leitrim was at 50 yesterday.

My point is where do we draw the line? Counites are rising and falling and i dont think local lockdowns will help as they are weak. Closing resteraunts to outdoor only, no outdoor sports etc wont prevent social gathering of people.

drunkmonkey · 08-09-2020 04:02PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup should they get the data together in time and all trials complete without issue they could look for approval in October and they say an initial 100m doses by year end. 1.3 billion throughout 2021

Isn't the issue we have no idea of the long term effects.

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 04:03PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

EXcess deaths during the pandemic are hundreds more than that so how could it be true?

There is a conspiracy narrative out there that US deaths have been hugely overstated so I imagine it's from the same type of source.

antodeco · 08-09-2020 04:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Pfizers say today that there’s a 60% chance it’ll be ready to go in October.

I'd say they're 100% certain about the 60%

iamwhoiam · 08-09-2020 04:04PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Incredibly sh!t awful news coming from possibly Tallagh ICU where there is a young child fighting covid.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/toddler-fighting-life-after-contracting-18898885

Hopefully hopefully they'll make a full recovery as they're young, crossing fingers tight. Small children, babies and people with special needs are the most innocent in all of this. It should be up to the rest of us to do everything conceivably possible to protect them.

There have been paediatric cases in paediatric ICU’s all through this pandemic . Children get sick very quickly and have immature airways . They also recover very quickly

ACitizenErased · 08-09-2020 04:04PM

Biontech CEO says today the vaccine (Pfizers) in the works is “near perfect”

big syke · 08-09-2020 04:05PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Incredibly sh!t awful news coming from possibly Tallagh ICU where there is a young child fighting covid.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/toddler-fighting-life-after-contracting-18898885

Hopefully hopefully they'll make a full recovery as they're young, crossing fingers tight. Small children, babies and people with special needs are the most innocent in all of this. It should be up to the rest of us to do everything conceivably possible to protect them.

Thats not an ICU. Crumlin and Temple Street hospitals are the critical car eunits for kids.

Most likely a kid in hospital that has been given a test and tested positive.

08-09-2020 04:05PM

big syke wrote: »

Kildare and Tip 14 day similar too no?

Fair enough but now you are only banging the Dublin drum not the limerick

Leitrim, Galway and Kerry are also +200% on the prior fortnight interesting to see the 14 day per 100,000. Leitrim was at 50 yesterday.

My point is where do we draw the line? Counites are rising and falling and i dont think local lockdowns will help as they are weak. Closing resteraunts to outdoor only, no outdoor sports etc wont prevent social gathering of people.

What do we want? Lockdown Leitrim. When do we want it? Now

Gruffalux · 08-09-2020 04:05PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Lockdown everything sure

Jaysis I could do with a two week general lockdown. I'm knackered!

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 04:06PM

PCros wrote: »

I'd put money on it that most of the cases are now house gatherings/parties.

It is where their advice is targeted almost every day. Glynn did mention 50 contacts for some people at one point a few weeks back. Even if it's half that on average that's a lot of potential spreading.

big syke · 08-09-2020 04:06PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How do they know the kid is on deaths door, they have no idea they made it up. More scaremongering.

100%.

It is not even a CH ICU.

GeorgeBailey · 08-09-2020 04:06PM

anybody got any links re the pfizer news?

copeyhagen · 08-09-2020 04:07PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

Jaysis I could do with a two week general lockdown. I'm knackered!

ya'd miss the auld lockdown

ACitizenErased · 08-09-2020 04:07PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

anybody got any links re the pfizer news?

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/09/08/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-approval-pleitgen-newday-vpx.cnn

DebDynamite · 08-09-2020 04:08PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How do they know the kid is on deaths door, they have no idea they made it up. More scaremongering.

Sensationalism at its best! They have absolutely no idea if Covid is the reason they are ICU. The article even states they don’t even know what hospital the child is in!

Hopefully the child will make a full recovery.

stephenjmcd · 08-09-2020 04:08PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Incredibly sh!t awful news coming from possibly Tallagh ICU where there is a young child fighting covid.

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/toddler-fighting-life-after-contracting-18898885

Hopefully hopefully they'll make a full recovery as they're young, crossing fingers tight. Small children, babies and people with special needs are the most innocent in all of this. It should be up to the rest of us to do everything conceivably possible to protect them.

Not sure if they're putting 2+2 together here and getting 5.

Firstly I'd wonder how from the HSE report they can claim a toddler is in ICU unless they have other information. Which they may well do and would make the below redundant but anyway,

As of last night Tallaght had 5 (Including 1 in CHI Tallaght) cases in hosptial and 1 in ICU.

There was 1 ICU case in Tallaght on Friday, given the weekend lets suspect this is the same case, CHI Tallaght had 0 cases Friday.

In ICU numbers CHI Tallaght is not mentioned.

Also CHI Tallaght only reopened last week but to non seriously ill or injured children. All children requiring critical care go to Crumlin or Temple street, it was mentioned when CHI Tallaght reopened.

08-09-2020 04:09PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

ya'd miss the auld lockdown

I get locked down, but I get up again, you never gonna keep me down.

Non solum non ambulabit · 08-09-2020 04:10PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup should they get the data together in time and all trials complete without issue they could look for approval in October and they say an initial 100m doses by year end. 1.3 billion throughout 2021

Great news - end in sight. Somebody needs to tell Gerry Killeen.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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