Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

MOH · 08-09-2020 12:34PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

When they announce over 300 cases today , this might get questioned or shelved.

Yep, obviously the sudden rise over the last week is due to the pubs which are still closed, and not in any way connected to schools going back

end of the road wrote: »

that's not a big deal really, the information now probably shows that reopening the non-food pubs wouldn't entail the same risks now as it would have weeks ago.
remember that information changed quite quickly right through this as new information and understanding on the virus was gained.

Right. So pubs have been kept closed for months of low figures on the grounds they were going to doom us all, but as soon as numbers start rising it's suddenly safe to open them under pretty much the same restrictions they could have opened under months ago?

All because suddenly new information has come to light?
(in fairness, that's far more coherent than our government)

Or just maybe they could have actually opened months ago.

TomTomTim · 08-09-2020 12:37PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

What a horrible thing to state! Just disgusting!

It's gas that your sarcastic posts have dried up; now you are just full of rage. It's great to see that the tables have turned on people like you. You were nothing but condescending to many posters on here for months, now you have no ammo, and all that is left is bitterness.

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 12:37PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

How will goin to the jacks work.
Do you put your hand up and ask permission?

They were talking about having someone in there for crowd control. One Tesco I saw had a traffic light system for store entry. Something like that could work in busier places.

weldoninhio · 08-09-2020 12:37PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

What a horrible thing to state! Just disgusting!

No creamy pints are delicious, not disgusting. Roll on 21st and we can go into any pub and have some. Mmmmmmmmmmm

weldoninhio · 08-09-2020 12:39PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They were talking about having someone in there for crowd control. One Tesco I saw had a traffic light system for store entry. Something like that could work in busier places.

Any restaurant I’ve been in lately has been use the jacks as normal.

MrStuffins · 08-09-2020 12:41PM

TomTomTim wrote: »

you are just full of rage.

Deleted User wrote: »

You seem to be inhabiting an alternative universe where everything is fine and dandy.

Weird to be accused of being happy and of being full of rage too.

No rage here my man! I've been enjoying the pubs this whole time and I will continue to enjoy them come Sept 21st and thereafter.

o1s1n · 08-09-2020 12:43PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

How will goin to the jacks work.
Do you put your hand up and ask permission?

A catheter will be issued to you on entry to the venue.

Have you not been to a 'food' pub in the last few months? You just stand up and walk to the toilets...

MrStuffins · 08-09-2020 12:45PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

How will goin to the jacks work.

Rumours that FF are going to introduce measures to force men to sit down while peeing!

copeyhagen · 08-09-2020 12:52PM

o1s1n wrote: »

A catheter will be issued to you on entry to the venue.

Have you not been to a 'food' pub in the last few months? You just stand up and walk to the toilets...

here, its just go toilet as normal and uee your head.

Spain in July, you had to put your mask back on to go toilet, which was fair enough imo

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 12:56PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Any restaurant I’ve been in lately has been use the jacks as normal.

You'd imagine that the smaller numbers would allow it to take care of itself.

D3V!L · 08-09-2020 12:58PM

I heard you'll have to put up your hand and and ask permission from the bar man when you want to go to the toilet.

hmmm · 08-09-2020 01:00PM

This decision makes no sense at all. Sure we'd love to see businesses reopening, but the timing of this while cases and hospitalisations are increasing is head-scratching. I wouldn't be rushing out to stock a bar expecting to reopen on that date.

is_that_so · 08-09-2020 01:00PM

D3V!L wrote: »

I heard you'll have to put up your hand and and ask permission from the bar man when you want to go to the toilet.

In some restaurants and cafes you have to ask for a code/key to use the toilet so no big deal!

stephenjmcd · 08-09-2020 01:07PM

hmmm wrote: »

This decision makes no sense at all. Sure we'd love to see businesses reopening, but the timing of this while cases and hospitalisations are increasing is head-scratching. I wouldn't be rushing out to stock a bar expecting to reopen on that date.

The date is now set. Unless there's any local restrictions in place you can open under the guidelines

Kivaro · 08-09-2020 01:12PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

How will goin to the jacks work.
Do you put your hand up and ask permission?

An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtí an leithreas?

hmmm · 08-09-2020 01:14PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The date is now set. Unless there's any local restrictions in place you can open under the guidelines

Sure. Where will the local restrictions be, and when will they be announced? Will publicans have to wait until the 21st to find out? What happens if you've re-employed staff, stocked up etc and find yourself in a local restriction zone?

US2 · 08-09-2020 01:15PM

hmmm wrote: »

This decision makes no sense at all. Sure we'd love to see businesses reopening, but the timing of this while cases and hospitalisations are increasing is head-scratching. I wouldn't be rushing out to stock a bar expecting to reopen on that date.

It makes loads of sense. Schools are back safely, now we get on with it and live with this virus. The dry pubs have been open long enough with no clusters reported from them?
If you're scared don't go, or if you live with someone who is at risk don't go.

hetuzozaho · 08-09-2020 01:17PM

hmmm wrote: »

This decision makes no sense at all. Sure we'd love to see businesses reopening, but the timing of this while cases and hospitalisations are increasing is head-scratching. I wouldn't be rushing out to stock a bar expecting to reopen on that date.

I'm all for them opening, but agree it doesn't make much sense if August wasn't ok.

Pauliedragon · 08-09-2020 01:19PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

There'll be some baby boom in 9 months!

That was happening already apparantly some chemists were reporting massive increases in sales of pregnancy tests during the height of the lockdown.

The Nal · 08-09-2020 01:22PM

Pauliedragon wrote: »

That was happening already apparantly some chemists were reporting massive increases in sales of pregnancy tests during the height of the lockdown.

And lube/play gel. (True story).

A lot of people dropping anchor in poo bay.

Cienciano · 08-09-2020 01:25PM

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

rob316 · 08-09-2020 01:37PM

Cienciano wrote: »

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

This.

Scabs out!

s1ippy · 08-09-2020 01:47PM

Trump making a much-awaited statement on wet pubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A__DveRMTuk

Guess he has a vested interest in Clare.

Degag · 08-09-2020 02:13PM

The Nal wrote: »

And lube/play gel. (True story).

A lot of people dropping anchor in poo bay.

Thanks for this. Most enlightening.

jippo nolan · 08-09-2020 02:27PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What?? They'll be delighted, adds more fuel to their fire

They will go out to buy extra thin net curtains!

TomTomTim · 08-09-2020 02:47PM

Cienciano wrote: »

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

Agreed. It's the simple fact that this kind of stuff distorts the truth. The government, and their obedient followers, constantly used these incidents as tools against us, pretending that they were an average, instead of the truth, that they were outliers. I've been in honestly about 20 establishments since you could get a pint again, and every single one of them were obeying the standards. I'm just back from 7 days in Kerry, and places in Kerry were incredibly strict about this stuff, especially in Killarney.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 08-09-2020 03:44PM

Cienciano wrote: »

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

Ah no public shaming needs to continue, the Irish media would collapse without lads dancing on top of phone boxes and people having fun.

So selfish.

bladespin · 08-09-2020 03:57PM

Cienciano wrote: »

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

The phone might not be all...

Seriously though, we need accountability but we also need some acceptance ahead of finger wagging, bit of both would be grand - really.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 08-09-2020 03:58PM

Cienciano wrote: »

We need a rule that if people are getting a bit too merry in the pub and you see someone with their phone out filming, you take the phone and smash it. We don't need any more viral videos of people not social distancing

Ah no public shaming needs to continue, the Irish media would collapse without lads dancing on top of phone boxes and people having fun.

So selfish.

end of the road · 08-09-2020 04:19PM

MOH wrote: »

Yep, obviously the sudden rise over the last week is due to the pubs which are still closed, and not in any way connected to schools going back

Right. So pubs have been kept closed for months of low figures on the grounds they were going to doom us all, but as soon as numbers start rising it's suddenly safe to open them under pretty much the same restrictions they could have opened under months ago?

All because suddenly new information has come to light?
(in fairness, that's far more coherent than our government)

Or just maybe they could have actually opened months ago.

it would have depended i guess on what information the government had at the time.
the information at that time may have shown there were specific risks of opening the non-food pubs at that time dispite the low cases, however information now may show that while cases are rising, the risks are such that it is safe to open.
this whole thing is very complex and things are changing all the time with everything being updated as all of the new information comes to light.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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