Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

PTH2009 · 06-09-2020 05:01PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

That seems like a health and safety nightmare, do they have a staff member wiping down the taps, is there a queueing system? Do you spill more than you save.....

Yep also a bit of personal responsibility

Sanitize tap before and after

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:06PM

end of the road wrote: »

all of that is what he said, it's not him with the comprehention issue.
he was referring to the people who are going to establishments who were effected by the time limits, this is very obvious.
he never stated anywhere that time limits applied across the board, but that where time limits do apply they are no more.

"Where time limits apply they are no more" ??

Sorry but that is not accurate and was as per my post my original point. The same time limits that apply now apply when wet pubs reopen.

It is currently 1m between tables = 105 minutes , 2m between tables = no time limit.

This applies now as it has since the first day in June where hosptiality reopened and will apply when 'wet' pubs reopen.

And I'm the one with the compression issue ??

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:09PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

This applies now and will apply when 'wet' pubs reopen

And this, added to the no-food requirement, is what a lot of people have been calling for.

This should be a cause for celebration!

Xenji · 06-09-2020 05:09PM

I actually think the time limit should stay, quite a few pubs around me would only have between 5 and 10 tables, if it's all going to be table service you will have some luck trying to get in.

Now of course the publican makes the same money, but you could have the same people at the same table from 6 till close.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:10PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

And this, added to the no-food requirement, is what a lot of people have been calling for.

This should be a cause for celebration!

what are you celebrating with regards to the time ??

There are no changes in these guidelines with regards to time from the current guidelines for food serving establishments.

weldoninhio · 06-09-2020 05:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

what are you celebrating with regards to the time ??

There are no changes in these guidelines with regards to time from the current guidelines for food serving establishments.

He’s celebrating winding everyone on the thread up.

Benimar · 06-09-2020 05:12PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

what are you celebrating with regards to the time ??

There are no changes in these guidelines with regards to time from the current guidelines for food serving establishments.

I genuinely believe at this stage that he actually doesn’t understand this!

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:13PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

what are you celebrating with regards to the time ??

There are no changes in these guidelines with regards to time.

Well I'm not the one celebrating as I've been going to the pub regularly.

I'm talking from the point of view of those who were calling for changes. They're the ones with cause to celebrate.

I've been celebrating anyway

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:13PM

Benimar wrote: »

I genuinely believe at this stage that he actually doesn’t understand this!

Quite possibly. No idea how else to explain it.

The only change will be no food

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:14PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Well I'm not the one celebrating as I've been going to the pub anyway.

I'm talking from the point of view of those who were calling for changes. They're the ones with cause to celebrate.

I've been celebrating anyway

Again deflect away and not answer the question regarding time

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:16PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Again deflect away and not answer the question regarding time

Not sure why you have to ask me any questions on this. It's been published in many places.

Here's one that explains all of the developments so far

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0906/1163545-pubs-guidelines/

hynesie08 · 06-09-2020 05:17PM

So, we should be celebrating that the time limit we want changed hasn't changed at all? Seems logical.......

At least we're one step closer to pubs being open....

Del Griffith · 06-09-2020 05:19PM

https://jrnl.ie/5197174

I think they believe this virus goes mad at midnight, like something out of Gremlins.

But still I'll take it, a big improvement.

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:20PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

At least we're one step closer to pubs being open....

Boom!

Was expecting to open the thread and see people celebrating or at least being positive. Surprisingly not!

By the end of the month, everyone will be washing down their bitterness with some tasty Guinness (or their tipple of choice)

drunkmonkey · 06-09-2020 05:21PM

I think it's a bull**** to be honest, open them as normal, if they appear to be a hotbed for clusters in certain areas well then bring in guidelines. Vitners would be fools to accept this the way it is, there regulations that may never be rolled back.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:23PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Not sure why you have to ask me any questions on this. It's been published in many places.

Here's one that explains all of the developments so far

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0906/1163545-pubs-guidelines/

Your the one that was saying there's no more time limits.

You've been told now time and time again there is no change in this regard. Something you can't seem to get your head around.

I dont need the developments explained at all.

The only development is no food which is welcomed by all

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:23PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

there regulations that may never be rolled back.

Or, more likely, will be.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:24PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

So, we should be celebrating that the time limit we want changed hasn't changed at all? Seems logical.......

At least we're one step closer to pubs being open....

Appearently so yes, celebrate the time limit staying the same when 'wet' pubs reopen.

hynesie08 · 06-09-2020 05:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Appearently so yes, celebrate the time limit staying the same

I can't celebrate though, I don't want to go to a restaurant.....

fleet_admiral · 06-09-2020 05:29PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Well that's the Irish pub experience ruined for me anyways...

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0906/1163545-pubs-guidelines/

Honestly, how much level of detail is needed to supply, do they think publicans are thick?

Look, thats trivial. Its like saying I don't want a finger bowl with my wings ill have wet wipes instead. Little things will be ironed out

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:30PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

no food is welcomed by all

Exactly.

And hopefully they continue to relax restrictions.

Fitz* · 06-09-2020 05:30PM

Great that there is workings to get the pubs open again. Only European country to still have them closed.

Somehow I think the fact that licence renewal date is October 1st is a massive factor in the decision. Rural pubs would close down and never reopen as culture funds in Dublin buy up the licences. The newsagent XL is also looking to buy up licences to convert to off licences.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:31PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Exactly.

And hopefully they continue to relax restrictions.

Again pick out the piece of the post that suits your post.

Care to concede that you were wrong with regards to the time ?
Which was the whole point to start with

end of the road · 06-09-2020 05:31PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

"Where time limits apply they are no more" ??

Sorry but that is not accurate and was as per my post my original point. The same time limits that apply now apply when wet pubs reopen.

It is currently 1m between tables = 105 minutes , 2m between tables = no time limit.

This applies now as it has since the first day in June where hosptiality reopened and will apply when 'wet' pubs reopen.

And I'm the one with the compression issue ??

you have a compression issue? jesus you will need to get that seen to as that is very serious.
anyway he never said time limits applied across the board, his mistake and it was only in one post was thinking time limits were to be abolished altogether, something he realised otherwise ridiculously quickly.
non issue and easy mistake to make, alls well ends well.

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:34PM

end of the road wrote: »

you have a compression issue? jesus you will need to get that seen to as that is very serious.
anyway he never said time limits applied across the board, his mistake and it was only in one post was thinking time limits were to be abolished altogether, something he realised otherwise ridiculously quickly.
non issue and easy mistake to make, alls well ends well.

Thankfully I don't have one no. You were the person who suggested it but thanks for the concern.

He has not realised at all and continues to skirt around it.

We'll agree to disagree here but at least you recognise the error with regards to the limits. Thankfully someone does

MrStuffins · 06-09-2020 05:37PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Which was the whole point to start with

Maybe that was your point. But my point was being happy that, come the update of the regulations, we'll all be able to have a few pints while not having to order food and not have to worry about a time limit.

It'll be a close to the pre-Covid pub experience as we've had for a while. Can't wait!

stephenjmcd · 06-09-2020 05:41PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

not have to worry about a time limit.

Eh have you literally not read anything?

There are the same time limits that apply today that will apply when wet pubs reopen.

There are no changes in this regard the same time limits are in these guidelines that are in the current food serving establishment guidelines.

Whatever food serving pub you've been going to if they've said to you 105 minutes and that's it. It'll still be 105. Can't make it any clearer

end of the road · 06-09-2020 05:42PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

I can't celebrate though, I don't want to go to a restaurant.....

don't go to one then, go to a food serving pub instead.

Fitz* wrote: »

Great that there is workings to get the pubs open again. Only European country to still have them closed.

Somehow I think the fact that licence renewal date is October 1st is a massive factor in the decision. Rural pubs would close down and never reopen as culture funds in Dublin buy up the licences. The newsagent XL is also looking to buy up licences to convert to off licences.

certainly possible, but i would think only delaying the inevitable, so wouldn't be 100% sure it would be a reason.
a lot of the small pubs will close going forward and would have anyway, and whoever buys the buildings or rents the buildings could still apply for a license for an offlicense if the previous license has expired.
being the only european country not to have non-food serving pubs open isn't an issue really, each country has their own set of circumstances that means there will be some deviations on some issues so i wouldn't worry about that.

Quantum Erasure · 06-09-2020 05:44PM

In my opinion, it gives us freedom, not the ultimate freedom that all nations desire.. but the freedom to achieve it....

drunkmonkey · 06-09-2020 05:53PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Or, more likely, will be.

How? They have no idea how effective these measures are in reducing case numbers, the same goes for a lot of the mandates and guidelines. Nearly impossible for them to roll back anything until the virus is gone.

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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