Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

aziz

Garda. " so can you describe your assailant in the taxi queue "

Aziz. " no guard, he was wearing a mask"

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Draft guidelines are the very same as those serving food. Minus the food requirement.

11.30pm closing.

What a surprise. And when is this nonsense of 11:30 going away.

Never is the answer.

aziz

When you have two doctors on the board of nphet who are from the alcohol and tobacco unit, you know that they are just going to push their own personal agendas

fleet_admiral

Guidelines issued in the last while, broadly similar to the reopening of pubs that served food.
Tomorrow two weeks looks definite now

drunkmonkey

Bat **** crazy as expected, you have to sit down the in the smoking area, what's that got to do with anything... Draft guidelines for reopening of pubs drawn up
http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0906/1163545-pubs-guidelines/

fleet_admiral

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Guidelines issued in the last while, broadly similar to the reopening of pubs that served food.
Tomorrow two weeks looks definite now

So hang on. So after a couple of months the master plan they've come up with is...to open pubs with the exact same rules as food pubs?


And cases are actually higher now. So what was the reason for them being closed? This government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

hynesie08

They're meeting with the lva and the vintners aren't they? I can see them making a concession on the closing time at weekends and possibly extending the time limit.....

Hand in Your Pants

Can you take off your mask to smoke in the garden?

bennyineire

hynesie08 wrote: »

They're meeting with the lva and the vintners aren't they? I can see them making a concession on the closing time at weekends and possibly extending the time limit.....

There is no time limit for larger pubs that can have 2 metre social distancing

fleet_admiral

AdamD wrote: »

So hang on. So after a couple of months the master plan they've come up with is...to open pubs with the exact same rules as food pubs?


And cases are actually higher now. So what was the reason for them being closed? This government couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

Yes, its absurb. We were begging the government for the same treatment as food pubs from before they reopened. Its shameful but at least we are reopening

fleet_admiral

hynesie08 wrote: »

They're meeting with the lva and the vintners aren't they? I can see them making a concession on the closing time at weekends and possibly extending the time limit.....

There has been non stop meetings at official level. Ill probably be demolished for saying this but Helen McEntee is a breath of fresh air

Mr.S

Mr.S wrote: »

Most pubs that have re-opened have made their covered smoking areas into additional (non smoking) seating areas - smoking now outside on the street. I'd say that's likely to continue.

Seats on the street?

hynesie08

fleet_admiral wrote: »

There has been non stop meetings at official level. Ill probably be demolished for saying this but Helen McEntee is a breath of fresh air

There's still a few small pub specific things (sitting at the bar, tab or payg) they've left open, I think there'll be some small adjustments to it before pubs open.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

They need to fück off with their 11:30 closing time.

mountgomery burns

They should bin the time limit and just emphasize capacities are maximum of whatever X amount of people, and all must not exceed what would hold a minimum of 1 metre between tables and maximum 6 to a table.

This is not a complaint but we know time limits and no food would actively encourage pub crawls, so if they're talking about pub crawls being a concern then surely no limits is obvious.

Gods Gift

Do you have to book your slot at the urinal too?
Or toilet too for the ladies. Or whatever for transitioning people.

is_that_so

Fresh off the presses so to speak.

A strict table service policy will be in place and counter service will be prohibited under draft guidelines for the reopening of pubs that do not serve food.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0906/1163545-pubs-guidelines/

PTH2009

Great more of this 'ah not today bud' when there clearly room there. Will be a lot of saving space for the locals

At least this food nonsense will be gone

11/11.30pm finish is a load of BS and encouraging binge and day drinking

fleet_admiral

hynesie08 wrote: »

There's still a few small pub specific things (sitting at the bar, tab or payg) they've left open, I think there'll be some small adjustments to it before pubs open.

Consultation has only started, there could be a completely different 'plan' in place for the 21st. Either way its good

dominatinMC

To be honest, I'm just grateful that the pubs seem to be opening again! I can live with the 11:30 closing time, etc. for the time being - the measures will pass in time. Rejoice, we can have a pint without having to pay 9 quid for the privilege!

hynesie08

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Consultation has only started, there could be a completely different 'plan' in place for the 21st. Either way its good

Agreed, get the doors open, the tills ringing and then you can amend it every week if you want.

joeguevara

Enzo Narrow Tannery wrote: »

will that nonsense food rule be sacked off in the pubs serving food?

Once Pubs are reopened the exemption provided to operate as a restaurant will cease. Those without a restaurant certificate will no longer be entitled to prepare or sell food in their licenced premises. Therefore all of those pizza ovens, temporary kitchens, fridges, preparation sites, temporary cooks will have to go. The pubs with restaurant certificates will be able to choose what they want to do and if there is no time requirement as indicated, it’s a pub with food.

The licence renewal is coming up this month and a restaurant certificate can be applied for then (subject to planning and food safety approval).

The main issue is now that we have a huge amount of pubs now open, where 20% were closing doors annually in normal times and 50% barely breaking even. Now with requirement to have less inside, little to no tourism trade which adds a considerable amount of turnover and customers who have been wiped of savings and up to 27% employment. What do people really think will happen. Everyone constantly demanding reopening of all pubs could potentially see a huge swath being wiped out quicker than if they had stayed closed.

From the pubs around here talking to the owners Mon to Wed is dead. Thurs is quiet. Friday and Saturday busy From 8 and Sunday half full. That’s with limited pubs open. Apologies Lightihouse closes Monday.

Happydays2020

It is a compromise and better than nothing.

is_that_so

It is ironic that the one sector that was on the high risk list is getting such a sharp focus at least a month away but not so much for the schools.

Richard Hillman

NPHET will abuse the Winter Flu season to keep the proposed restrictions into next year.

They knew they had to give us our pubs back or their Junta Coup would be a failure. Whilst they are showing weakness, now is the time for insurrection.

fleet_admiral

Happydays2020 wrote: »

It is a compromise and better than nothing.

There's no compromise. Not from the pubs. Dont forget its not only pubs that are affected by the closure, staff, suppliers, bin companies, sanitary disposal companies, entertainment, breweries, and more have been wiped out. Plenty of pubs that served food didn't open when they could have. That affects butchers, veg suppliers, milk suppliers, bread suppliers, fish mongers etc...

is_that_so

Richard Hillman wrote: »

NPHET will abuse the Winter Flu season to keep the proposed restrictions into next year.

They knew they had to give us our pubs back or their Junta Coup would be a failure. Whilst they are showing weakness, now is the time for insurrection.

If more people get jabs they won't have to, especially those in the health services, where there is a very low take-up.

MadYaker

If it goes well and we don’t have loads of clusters appearing in pubs then I’d be reasonably hopeful that rules around closing times and table service etc may be relaxed.

Happydays2020

fleet_admiral wrote: »

There's no compromise. Not from the pubs. Dont forget its not only pubs that are affected by the closure, staff, suppliers, bin companies, sanitary disposal companies, entertainment, breweries, and more have been wiped out. Plenty of pubs that served food didn't open when they could have. That affects butchers, veg suppliers, milk suppliers, bread suppliers, fish mongers etc...

I am fully aware of that. I am thinking of the possibility of them at least having a fighting chance by being allowed to open.

MrStuffins

So, I assume everyone here is excited about the draft guidelines? Plenty of progress being made, lots of measures being relaxed too like a 105 min limit not being required if you can maintain social distancing? No requirement to order food?

This is exactly what everyone wanted, right? The safe reopening of the country?

Great news!