Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

caveat emptor · 04-09-2020 05:00PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Are the media going to highlight this every time it happens in a school ? Its going to happen we get it, don't need the country to be told every time a class gets sent home

I’d say it’s important for those that have to deal with the fall out. First full week done. It won’t be big news in weeks to come. It will be if there are wider outbreaks in schools and communities and if hospitals come under pressure.

A class has to get sent home before a school is closed before there is an increase in cases.

Just like there has to be a test before a case before a hospitalisation before a death.

What Username Guidelines · 04-09-2020 05:00PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Are the media going to highlight this every time it happens in a school ? Its going to happen we get it, don't need the country to be told every time a class gets sent home

It's the current shtick, there'll be something else soon. If they do open the pubs in the next few weeks, schools will be forgotten and it'll be the first, second, third pub that an outbreak has been linked to, all reported.

If they reported the inverse it would be nice. i.e. 3,301 Primary schools without cases. 4 with cases.

caveat emptor · 04-09-2020 05:01PM

Blondini wrote: »

Why not?

It's very important to keep updated on how the schools experiment works out.

Because it’s not about pubs or travel I’d guess.

Mr E · 04-09-2020 05:02PM

partyguinness wrote: »

(I am going to throw this beaut out there)

I know full well the biggest curtain twitchers in Ireland and the most vocal 'lockdown' Nazis are the same class of people that stayed remarkably silent during decades of Catholic Church inspired abuses that riddled this country.

Mod:
(I'm going to throw this beaut out there too)

Don't post on this thread again.

Plumbthedepths · 04-09-2020 05:02PM

Blondini wrote: »

It's still news though. We are allowed to consume whatever news we want in this country if thats okay with you.

Absolutely, I was pointing out that it is expected for case to occur in a school setting and a plan was put in place to deal with it.
Have I denied it's News?

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 05:02PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I’d say it’s important for those that have to deal with the fall out. First full week done. It won’t be big news in weeks to come. It will be if there are wider outbreaks in schools and communities and if hospitals come under pressure.

A class has to get sent home before a school is closed before there is an increase in cases.

Just like there has to be a test before a case before a hospitalisation before a death.

I've no issues with classes being sent home, it has happened, it will happen and everyone was told it would happen. That's perfectly acceptable.

I just find it strange that every class that gets sent home needs to be reported on but accept like you say it won't be big news in weeks to come

caveat emptor · 04-09-2020 05:04PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I've no issues with classes being sent home, it has happened, it will happen and everyone was told it would happen. That's perfectly acceptable.

I just find it strange that every class that gets sent home needs to be reported on but accept like you say it won't be big news in weeks to come

Not quite, individual classes won't be big news. Multiple schools, increases in local areas and ultimately local lockdowns will then be the news if the experiment doesn't work out.

Gerry Hatrick · 04-09-2020 05:05PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Another two schools.

https://twitter.com/DublinLive/status/1301899676925521920?s=20

What's that 4 in a week? Terrible

JDD · 04-09-2020 05:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Another two schools.

https://twitter.com/DublinLive/status/1301899676925521920?s=20

How many pupils is that this week? Five? Six?

We have had 843 positive tests over the past week. It seems odd that we have had only five or six positive cases in kids between the ages of 5-17. Surely more than that percentage normally test positive in any given week?

And we can't say "well, children could be positive but not showing symptoms" because we're testing close contacts and there must be loads of children being tested that are the children or nieces or grandchildren of positive cases.

It just seems odd to me that the number of affected schools, and therefore affected children, is so low. I was expecting about 20 classes to close this week.

is_that_so · 04-09-2020 05:06PM

Not sure if this was posted today.

A new survey reveals that 60% of employees in Ireland are feeling more stressed since the onset of Covid-19, with 67% of women reporting increased levels of stress compared with 45% of men.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0904/1163151-employee-burnout-survey/

wadacrack · 04-09-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Are the media going to highlight this every time it happens in a school ? Its going to happen we get it, don't need the country to be told every time a class gets sent home

Transparency isint a bad thing. The media are obviously going to report on this, its of public interest. As time goes on likely to go unnoticed.

Boggles · 04-09-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Are the media going to highlight this every time it happens in a school ? Its going to happen we get it, don't need the country to be told every time a class gets sent home

The majority of secondary schools are not even back in full yet.

So yes it's pretty pertinent news.

The health and safety in our schools are the forefront of 10s of 1000s of parents minds and staff and will have a dramatic knock on effect for society if they are deemed to be a significant vector of the disease.

Or should we just go back to 15 pages of ranting and raving about pubs being made keep receipts?

Widdensushi · 04-09-2020 05:12PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted today.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0904/1163151-employee-burnout-survey/

Good use of TV licence money

caveat emptor · 04-09-2020 05:16PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

What's that 4 in a week? Terrible

AFAIK

4 in Dublin,
1 in Clare (teachers out isolating),
2 in Kerry ( 1 primary and 1 secondary siblings)

podgeandrodge · 04-09-2020 05:20PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

With all this late stage ballyhoo over till receipts for meals received, you'd have to wonder if "wet pubs" will be opening anytime soon.

After all, if "wet pubs" are allowed open again then why would "food pubs" need to prove that they're not "wet pubs".

It's a feckin mess.

And if they start taking arrival times, and then policing both "your meal was only €7.95 and you arrived 110 minutes ago", there will be trouble!

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 05:39PM

0 deaths 98 cases confirmed

spookwoman · 04-09-2020 05:39PM

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1301922754757890048?s=20

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 05:40PM

Of the #COVID19 cases notified today:
•48 are men / 50 are women
•66% are under 45 years of age
•42 are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case
•9 cases have been identified as community transmission

Stheno · 04-09-2020 05:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

24 in Dublin, 13 in Kildare, 8 in Kerry, 6 in Kildare, 6 in Kilkenny, 6 in Limerick, 6 in Louth, 5 in Tipperary and the remaining 30 cases are in Carlow, Clare, Cork, Galway, Laois, Leitrim, Longford, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Waterford and Wexford.

That has Kildare twice?

Strumms · 04-09-2020 05:42PM

partyguinness wrote: »

Sitting in a car park furiously tapping away and getting enraged about some kids mucking about. What don't you just call the Guards and be done with it. End of the world. The Stasi is alive and well.

Honest to God. Would you listen to yourself....

Not furiously doing anything my friend ... yes, sitting in a car park, quite relaxed. End of the world, no, not quite... closest we’ve been though maybe in quite a while, it would be the end of the fûcking world if the majority hadn’t mucked in..

Kids mucking about, ok, well.... kids all mucking about, no masks barring one kid ? Not good enough.... sorry... they can be educated to grow, develop and improve as humans, get xxx points in state exams...they can be educated to wear face masks, the benefits for themselves, loved ones and THEIR community.

They managed to put on their school uniforms presumably without help, guidance or coercion, they know they must wear one, they must wear a mask too.

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 05:43PM

Kildare mentioned twice typo obviously.

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1301923061080436736?s=19

Always_Running · 04-09-2020 05:43PM

The seven day average down to 105 per day, last Friday the seven day average was 120

44 in hospital and 7 of them in ICU

stephenjmcd · 04-09-2020 05:43PM

Stheno wrote: »

That has Kildare twice?

Yup just linked the dept of health tweet that has it in it. Spotted after I posted

Always_Running · 04-09-2020 05:45PM

Stheno wrote: »

That has Kildare twice?

Zara read out Kildare twice on TV. A typo it seems.

04-09-2020 05:45PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

AFAIK
4 in Dublin,

1 in Clare (teachers out isolating),

2 in Kerry ( 1 primary and 1 secondary siblings)

So 6 cases from about a million schoolchildren. That’s a far lower rate that society in general. Great news

Leftwaffe · 04-09-2020 05:47PM

If it steadied out at 100-150 a day I think we'd be doing well considering we are practically fully open with restrictions in place. Schools I think will see the daily figures go up however, and thus the pubs will be doomed altogether.

JDD · 04-09-2020 05:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So 6 cases from about a million schoolchildren. That’s a far lower rate that society in general. Great news

This is what I thought. Approx 850 positive tests in the past week, only 6 relating to children between the ages of 5-17. That seems an almost unbelievable low rate of infection.

Widdensushi · 04-09-2020 05:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So 6 cases from about a million schoolchildren. That’s a far lower rate that society in general. Great news

The clare school closure is to with teachers contacts being positive

shinzon · 04-09-2020 05:49PM

Another Leo statement.

https://www.thejournal.ie/varadkar-daily-covid-numbers-5195709-Sep2020/?utm_source=twitter_short

TÁNAISTE LEO VARADKAR has said we should not be obsessing about the number of positive Covid cases that are reported everyday.

His comments comes as a number of doctors have called for an end to the daily reporting of Covid-19 figures, describing them as a “self-perpetuating cycle of misery”.

Varadkar disagrees with the doctors, stating that the daily figures should be published “because the more transparency the better”.

However, Varadkar said there also needs to be more explanation about what the case numbers mean.

“We need to maybe not obsess about the number of cases every day. I think some people are getting a little terrorised by that.”

The Tánaiste said there is also a need to hear a bit more “common sense”.

There is a need now to look at the “wider picture” of where we are in the trajectory of the pandemic, he said.

“That means, yes looking at the case numbers, but also looking at the R number, the trajectory of the number of people in hospital, the number of people in ICU, and the number of deaths,” he said.

Shin

JDD · 04-09-2020 05:50PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

The clare school closure is to with teachers contacts being positive

So only five cases then?

Does that seem odd to anyone? Only five positive cases in children this week out of 850 positive cases? I mean, I don't think there are any schools hiding closures - there's no way they'd do that without it getting out. Do you think that in fact parents are keeping sick children home but not getting them tested so that the family can go about their daily business?

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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