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Wailin · 03-09-2020 02:28PM

New 6 series. Still as ugly as ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC04qd_oD8

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 02:33PM

blingrhino wrote: »

I had 94000 kms on the golf r and it was driven like tommy hakikinen but never changed the break pads.

i hear ye about the discs,Any point in refusing and just get the pads or get a second opinion ?

You don't have to get the discs changed if they are fine for another bit. The dealer will go off BMW's guidelines and advise on that. The discs could be fine but like tyres they will recommend replacing them at x mileage or x years.

frozenfrozen · 03-09-2020 02:59PM

6 gt = ugly

6 gc = not bad

Casati · 03-09-2020 03:01PM

Wailin wrote: »

I've had my pads done on the old f10 and they never mentioned discs. You can tell yourself anyway if they've a very pronounced lip on them. A heavy automatic car like the 5 series will go through pads handy enough and 40k miles is certainly an average.

Automatic cars driven in city / stop - start driving can be v heavy on pads. Obviously if your up and down the M8 all day 60km isn’t great going but if it’s Dublin City driving that’s not bad.

Driving style matters a lot too, on motorway and country roads I’m amazed at how often cars in front hit the brakes when all they need to do is take the foot off the accelerator. I think that the coasting function on some new cars results in heavier braking too

frozenfrozen · 03-09-2020 03:28PM

I see lots of people braking over and over again on the motorway to the point I thought it might have been a cruise control thing where it just puts the lights on every time it stops accelerating or something... But its probably people just constantly braking every time they look down and see they're doing 121 km/h

vintagevrs · 03-09-2020 03:42PM

I bought new disks and pads yesterday online. Both were done last time 2 years and 40k miles ago so sounds about right. Check out motointegrator for a price, as they are by far the cheapest I found but may be specific to my own disks and not over their entire range. 2nd time buying these from them.

As mentioned autos are sore on brakes, and the F10 is very sensitive to having the brakes done right. IV heard some nightmare stories of dealers replacing brakes repeatedly for vibrations that were caused by other things.

Mooooo · 03-09-2020 03:44PM

Wailin wrote: »

New 6 series. Still as ugly as ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC04qd_oD8

The gt variant in any model were always ugly, couldn't understand how they came out with em.

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 04:22PM

Cannot see why BMW persisted with a 6 GT when it's predecessor the 5 GT sold so poorly. Totally pointless and ugly car imo that doesn't know what it's meant to be.

carsfan2 · 03-09-2020 04:38PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Cannot see why BMW persisted with a 6 GT when it's predecessor the 5 GT sold so poorly. Totally pointless and ugly car imo that doesn't know what it's meant to be.

LCI is only left hand drive apparently.
They have given up on the right hand drive market so we won't be getting it anymore.

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 05:04PM

Amen to that.

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 06:04PM

Nice G20 330e, love the colour combo on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYK_UITjbZU

carsfan2 · 03-09-2020 06:39PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Nice G20 330e, love the colour combo on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYK_UITjbZU

That’s the colour combo I had on my 330e and I loved it. The tan leather just works with mineral grey.

What cars you thinking of now Bazz. This one of them?

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 06:56PM

One of many I'm looking at, nothing solid yet though. Not a great choice out there at this time of year. 50k for that seems a bit high to me. Trying to work out some figures on whether going PCP on something nearly new like that or just move up 2 or 3 years. Might not be much if any equity in that 330e in 3 years time.

What's the story with trading something in that's valued at more than what you want to put down as a PCP deposit? I'd rather not put a huge deposit in, would they give you cash back? I'd rather put that aside for the GMFV if needed or something else.

maddness · 03-09-2020 07:07PM

blingrhino wrote: »

I had 94000 kms on the golf r and it was driven like tommy hakikinen but never changed the break pads.

i hear ye about the discs,Any point in refusing and just get the pads or get a second opinion ?

Jeasus! I wish I could drive like Tommy Hakiknen....whoever he is...

maddness · 03-09-2020 07:08PM

Wailin wrote: »

New 6 series. Still as ugly as ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uC04qd_oD8

Wtf is up with the trend for the bloody awful grey paint?

Heres Johnny · 03-09-2020 07:14PM

bazz26 wrote: »

One of many I'm looking at, nothing solid yet though. Not a great choice out there at this time of year. 50k for that seems a bit high to me. Trying to work out some figures on whether going PCP on something nearly new like that or just move up 2 or 3 years. Might not be much if any equity in that 330e in 3 years time.

What's the story with trading something in that's valued at more than what you want to put down as a PCP deposit? I'd rather not put a huge deposit in, would they give you cash back? I'd rather put that aside for the GMFV if needed or something else.

I was offered cash back in a pcp deal. My a6 which I was being given 25k trade in allowance for against a brand new 60k a6. Audi didn't advise any more than a 25% deposit (think it was 25% anyway) so they were going to take my car and give me 10k cash too. Didn't go for it in the end though, but cash back is an option I believe.

JoeA3 · 03-09-2020 07:30PM

bazz26 wrote: »

One of many I'm looking at, nothing solid yet though. Not a great choice out there at this time of year. 50k for that seems a bit high to me. Trying to work out some figures on whether going PCP on something nearly new like that or just move up 2 or 3 years. Might not be much if any equity in that 330e in 3 years time.

What's the story with trading something in that's valued at more than what you want to put down as a PCP deposit? I'd rather not put a huge deposit in, would they give you cash back? I'd rather put that aside for the GMFV if needed or something else.

I hit this scenario when trading from a GTI to the R. The VW dealers wrote me a cheque for about 12k if I recall (the value of my trade in above the max deposit for the new car).

Wailin · 03-09-2020 07:34PM

Saw a Kia Stinger on the road today for the first time. Very stylish and lot's of road presence.

Wailin · 03-09-2020 07:36PM

maddness wrote: »

Wtf is up with the trend for the bloody awful grey paint?

You're really not a fan of grey madness lol

carsfan2 · 03-09-2020 07:51PM

Yeah. They give you back the cash amount over the deposit.
I wouldn’t go pcp on 330e Bazz. The interest rate is 5.9% on hybrids with bmw. 3.9% on petrol/diesel.
That car is lovely but 50k is a touch high.

bazz26 · 03-09-2020 07:56PM

Yeah, I'd imagine you would nearly buy a new one for not much more when you take the grants into account. I must go onto the configurator later and see what a new one with that spec costs before the grants.

maddness · 03-09-2020 07:58PM

Wailin wrote: »

You're really not a fan of grey madness lol

Metallic grey is bad enough but these flat looking grey cars are just an abomination.

frozenfrozen · 03-09-2020 08:08PM

the rs7 audi ireland press car was a nice grey. I don't think anything would look good on that 6gt except maybe black so you could pretend you never saw it

maddness · 03-09-2020 08:33PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

the rs7 audi ireland press car was a nice grey. I don't think anything would look good on that 6gt except maybe black so you could pretend you never saw it

That Audi colour is Nardo Grey...vomit emoji here!

Voodoomelon · 03-09-2020 09:18PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

I bought new disks and pads yesterday online. Both were done last time 2 years and 40k miles ago so sounds about right. Check out motointegrator for a price, as they are by far the cheapest I found but may be specific to my own disks and not over their entire range. 2nd time buying these from them.

As mentioned autos are sore on brakes, and the F10 is very sensitive to having the brakes done right. IV heard some nightmare stories of dealers replacing brakes repeatedly for vibrations that were caused by other things.

I had the front discs and pads replaced on my 7 today, as well as the calipers rebuilt. It's warped the last three sets of discs I put on in as many years, and not through use, i'm very light on brakes; the old ones coming off are 75% good. Calipers were the only things left that could be at fault so got an original ATE caliper kit to rebuild them and had the lads install them. They've two F10s in every year for new discs, no one seems to know why they keep warping.

Hopefully the rebuilt calipers will sort things. I bed the brakes in 100kph-10kph 10 times, you could fry an egg on the discs.

vintagevrs · 03-09-2020 09:46PM

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I had the front discs and pads replaced on my 7 today, as well as the calipers rebuilt. It's warped the last three sets of discs I put on in as many years, and not through use, i'm very light on brakes; the old ones coming off are 75% good. Calipers were the only things left that could be at fault so got an original ATE caliper kit to rebuild them and had the lads install them. They've two F10s in every year for new discs, no one seems to know why they keep warping.

Hopefully the rebuilt calipers will sort things. I bed the brakes in 100kph-10kph 10 times, you could fry an egg on the discs.

Yeah f10s are unusually sore on discs. Can I ask how do you know the discs were warped? From having a similar experience last year with my own car mechanics kept telling me warped discs. I bought new discs, problem came back. Got them skimmed, problem came back. Mechanic was adamant again that vibration when braking meant the discs were warped, and common sense told me better.

I read a lot about pad deposit on discs causing similar issue, also common on autos when brakes are hot and you sit with brakes on stationary like coming off motorway to a red light stop or similar. So I cooked the brakes doing 80mph to 10mph hard repeatedly until they faded like yourself bedding them in. Cruised the to cool them, but eventually the vibrations came back. Turned out it was knackered control arm bushes after that.

Car drove perfect after replacing those and was cheap fix. The tiniest vibration on brakes will ruin and put you off a car very quickly.

MarkN · 03-09-2020 09:59PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

the rs7 audi ireland press car was a nice grey. I don't think anything would look good on that 6gt except maybe black so you could pretend you never saw it

RS5 no? The RS7 they have on is a silver of sorts. The current one is at least anyway!

Heres Johnny · 03-09-2020 10:09PM

I like that trending grey, shows up nice lines on a nice car.

Leonard Hofstadter · 03-09-2020 10:21PM

Wailin wrote: »

Not the case with the 5 series though. My car has m sport suspension even though it's x drive. I think it's just the 3/4 series for some reason.

Not any more with the 3 series either. The only M Sport version that keeps the SE suspension in the current 3 series is the 330e, however if you order one in M Sport Plus guise, you get the adaptive suspension just like any other M Sport Plus model in the range.

Ironically given that the 4 series is a Coupé and therefore is meant to be sportier than the 3 series, none of the new 4 series will come with sports suspension despite all models coming in M Sport spec only:rolleyes:. I don't know if the M Sport Plus cars will get lower or adaptive suspension; hopefully they do since BMWs are meant to be about driving pleasure.

The F10 5 series did different things for rear wheel drive and xDrive, however it was better for the xDrive (which were LHD only) as those cars kept hydraulic power steering, whereas all rear wheel drive models (apart from the M5) were inflicted with electric steering from the outset.

Voodoomelon · 03-09-2020 10:57PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Yeah f10s are unusually sore on discs. Can I ask how do you know the discs were warped? From having a similar experience last year with my own car mechanics kept telling me warped discs. I bought new discs, problem came back. Got them skimmed, problem came back. Mechanic was adamant again that vibration when braking meant the discs were warped, and common sense told me better.

I read a lot about pad deposit on discs causing similar issue, also common on autos when brakes are hot and you sit with brakes on stationary like coming off motorway to a red light stop or similar. So I cooked the brakes doing 80mph to 10mph hard repeatedly until they faded like yourself bedding them in. Cruised the to cool them, but eventually the vibrations came back. Turned out it was knackered control arm bushes after that.

Car drove perfect after replacing those and was cheap fix. The tiniest vibration on brakes will ruin and put you off a car very quickly.

You're right, the littlest thing can annoy the hell out of you when it comes to steering or brakes.
I knew mine were warped quite simply by sticking it up on the ramp and spinning the wheels. The wheel/disc would catch the on the pad at certain positions and not others as it spun; you could see and hear it. One side was worse than the other and the brake dust reflected that, way more on the driver side than the passenger side. So bad in fact i'm getting the wheels refurbed next week for a second time as the fronts are turning a shade of gold.

I also had annoying slider pin clicking which has thankfully subsided with the new setup. My last set of ATEs warped after 1000km. BMW wouldn't warrant them as my wheels had been refurbed, theory being refurbed wheels inhibit heat transfer from hot discs. Utter nonesense consider my discs never get hot with my town driving and light braking.

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