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maddness · 30-08-2020 12:08PM

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

You've almost uprooted a seed that I've had planted in my head these past few months. I keep finding myself looking at 330d's on Autotrader for when I change next. Now I'm wondering is there much point and should I go back to petrol.

Yes...

vintagevrs · 30-08-2020 12:13PM

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

You've almost uprooted a seed that I've had planted in my head these past few months. I keep finding myself looking at 330d's on Autotrader for when I change next. Now I'm wondering is there much point and should I go back to petrol.

No defo not....

I'd recommend a 330d, maybe a white one. Having a big boot is useful so probably an estate if you are and just be mindful of rwd in winter months so you'll be wanting an xdrive I'd be thinking.

Sexual Chocolate · 30-08-2020 05:06PM

It be a while before I'll be switching. Sure I'm still paying for the 320d

If I do got down the F30 road it will have to be either white, Melbourne red or navy.

Capital motors had a lovely red 330d recently that I fell in love with.

James Bond Junior · 30-08-2020 05:36PM

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

It be a while before I'll be switching. Sure I'm still paying for the 320d

If I do got down the F30 road it will have to be either white, Melbourne red or navy.

Capital motors had a lovely red 330d recently that I fell in love with.

I spotted that. Melbourne red in M sport is lovely.

bazz26 · 30-08-2020 07:22PM

They have that car advertised a long time.

Sexual Chocolate · 30-08-2020 09:32PM

Think it's gone now.

Here's another that's caught my eye.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202001296699713?advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2015&postcode=LL651DQ&model=3%20SERIES&sort=price-asc&page=5&aggregatedTrim=330d&make=BMW&year-to=2018&fuel-type=Diesel&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

Some might think I'm mad but I like some of the non m sport stuff.

Has it being determined if we'll be paying VAT on import in the future ?

maddness · 30-08-2020 09:50PM

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Think it's gone now.

Here's another that's caught my eye.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202001296699713?advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2015&postcode=LL651DQ&model=3%20SERIES&sort=price-asc&page=5&aggregatedTrim=330d&make=BMW&year-to=2018&fuel-type=Diesel&include-delivery-option=on&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New

Some might think I'm mad but I like some of the non m sport stuff.

Has it being determined if we'll be paying VAT on import in the future ?

That’s nice alright, I like a lot of the on M Sport stuff too.

carsfan2 · 31-08-2020 11:50AM

Non m sport with the larger engine models seem to lose more money and be harder to shift.

frozenfrozen · 31-08-2020 12:06PM

How do I get a better idea of VRT if revenues calculator has the value of the car at 30k but the purchase price would be 21k?

maddness · 31-08-2020 12:19PM

Yes and cheaper to buy!

vintagevrs · 31-08-2020 12:21PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

How do I get a better idea of VRT if revenues calculator has the value of the car at 30k but the purchase price would be 21k?

Purchase price where? Is it an Irish registered car in Ireland for €21k? As far as I know if it's on the calculator you'll have to pay it, and then if it is obviously out and you can support it with ads for similar cars selling for less you appeal it.

frozenfrozen · 31-08-2020 12:32PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Purchase price where? Is it an Irish registered car in Ireland for €21k? As far as I know if it's on the calculator you'll have to pay it, and then if it is obviously out and you can support it with ads for similar cars selling for less you appeal it.

from uk
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202007171348264

something along those lines is what I'd be going for if I go that way. Would be a stretch for me though so haven't really decided if I'll go that expensive

bazz26 · 31-08-2020 01:04PM

Revenue have no interest in how much you paid for the car abroad. They value it for VRT purposes on what they think it is worth here. Also don't forget the Nox charge on top of VRT.

chalky_ie · 31-08-2020 03:09PM

If the car is on the VRT system, that's the price you pay. UK prices can be used for individual assessments(and for arguing the value given by Revenue for an individual assessment) I believe, but you're not paying anything other that the system price, if present.

frozenfrozen · 31-08-2020 04:02PM

around 7,000 vrt so

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 31-08-2020 04:24PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

around 7,000 vrt so

Plus the NOX

frozenfrozen · 31-08-2020 04:28PM

Rosa Flat Cantaloupe wrote: »

Plus the NOX

That's included, they're all euro 6 that I'm looking at so its between 300-400 euro according to the calculator. Could be wrong tho

vintagevrs · 31-08-2020 04:45PM

I put in that car's details and matched the Co2 and nox up.

CO2 Emissions 149
Rate of VRT 23%

CO2 VRT Charges
(payable on enquiry)
€7,272

Revenue NOx Estimate
NOx Emissions
67

https://www.nextgreencar.com/view-car/53005/audi-a6-allroad-3.0-tdi-quattro-272ps-s-tronic-diesel-semi-automatic-7-speed/

NOx VRT Charge
(payable on enquiry)
€405

Registration Tax Total

€7,677

vintagevrs · 31-08-2020 04:58PM

The way VRT is handled here is infuriating though.

Revenue calculate the VRT based on the OMSP of an Irish car with VRT already paid you end up paying the VRT rate on a price which includes the VRT rate, in a way hiding the inflated cost and paying tax on tax.

Extreme example, but illustrates the point. A car which outside of Ireland costs €100k to purchase, and attracts the highest VRT rate of 36% would make sense for it to have a VRT bill of €36k. But they calculate the VRT % against cars with it already paid meaning the VRT would be calculated on a car cost of around €136k, and the bill would be closer to €49k!

31-08-2020 05:03PM

I can't understand how the OMSP can include VRT ......... by definition OMSP shouldn't. Mental.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 31-08-2020 05:05PM

Augeo wrote: »

I can't understand how the OMSP can include VRT ......... by definition OMSP shouldn't. Mental.

By definition it should, because any car Selling on the Open Market here already has it’s VRT paid in the Price.

31-08-2020 05:09PM

Rosa Flat Cantaloupe wrote: »

By definition it should, because any car Selling on the Open Market here already has it’s VRT paid in the Price.

It's like applying VAT to the RRP inc VAT.

Sexual Chocolate · 31-08-2020 11:09PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

Non m sport with the larger engine models seem to lose more money and be harder to shift.

Yeah with something like that red one you'd really want to commit to it for at least 5-7 years. The more forgiving suspension is what would attract me to them. Though I hear the xdrive m sports have standard suspension.

On sometging different altogether, I'm considering bringing a mk2 i30 or even an i20 petrol automatic next year for my mother. She's vrt exempt on anything she buys but would she still be liable for Nox ?

Also what's the auto in the hyundais like ?

maddness · 01-09-2020 07:27AM

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Yeah with something like that red one you'd really want to commit to it for at least 5-7 years. The more forgiving suspension is what would attract me to them. Though I hear the xdrive m sports have standard suspension.

On sometging different altogether, I'm considering bringing a mk2 i30 or even an i20 petrol automatic next year for my mother. She's vrt exempt on anything she buys but would she still be liable for Nox ?

Also what's the auto in the hyundais like ?

The X Drive BMW’s have the softer standard suspension, even the m sport cars.

Wailin · 01-09-2020 01:07PM

maddness wrote: »

The X Drive BMW’s have the softer standard suspension, even the m sport cars.

Not the case with the 5 series though. My car has m sport suspension even though it's x drive. I think it's just the 3/4 series for some reason.

maddness · 01-09-2020 01:37PM

Wailin wrote: »

Not the case with the 5 series though. My car has m sport suspension even though it's x drive. I think it's just the 3/4 series for some reason.

Does the car sit a bit higher than normal?

How are you getting on with the car?

Wailin · 01-09-2020 02:01PM

My old 535d had variable dampers so sat the same as SE suspension. This is definitely lower and it's very firm. Putting the vin into a decoder also tells me it's 704 suspension which is m sport.

I'm enjoying the car but also miss the torque of the 535d! You need to drive like a bit of a hooligan and rev it high to get the most from it as you know. Wheres with the diesel the power is pretty much instant at low revs. So mostly I just saunter around not really getting the potential. I think the 535d was easier to go quick where the 540i has more drama getting quick. The cabin is a nice place to be though and the sports seats are lovely.

How's your own going madness and would you consider getting a remap?

maddness · 01-09-2020 03:08PM

Wailin wrote: »

My old 535d had variable dampers so sat the same as SE suspension. This is definitely lower and it's very firm. Putting the vin into a decoder also tells me it's 704 suspension which is m sport.

I'm enjoying the car but also miss the torque of the 535d! You need to drive like a bit of a hooligan and rev it high to get the most from it as you know. Wheres with the diesel the power is pretty much instant at low revs. So mostly I just saunter around not really getting the potential. I think the 535d was easier to go quick where the 540i has more drama getting quick. The cabin is a nice place to be though and the sports seats are lovely.

How's your own going madness and would you consider getting a remap?

I love it, it’s a lot of fun even at slow speeds. It’s very fast as it is and plenty of drama when you are pushing on too. It’s very hard riding though and not as comfortable as a Golf R in general. It feels special though.I will map it at some stage but it probably doesn’t need it.

bazz26 · 01-09-2020 04:59PM

Wailin wrote: »

My old 535d had variable dampers so sat the same as SE suspension. This is definitely lower and it's very firm. Putting the vin into a decoder also tells me it's 704 suspension which is m sport.

I'm enjoying the car but also miss the torque of the 535d! You need to drive like a bit of a hooligan and rev it high to get the most from it as you know. Wheres with the diesel the power is pretty much instant at low revs. So mostly I just saunter around not really getting the potential. I think the 535d was easier to go quick where the 540i has more drama getting quick. The cabin is a nice place to be though and the sports seats are lovely.

How's your own going madness and would you consider getting a remap?

I think it's just going to take you time to get used to driving a petrol car again. Your probably used to driving diesel cars where the rev/torque range is narrower and revving the nuts out of a diesel engine gets you nowhere. I'd say you will enjoy it more once you get used to treating it differently to a diesel.

carsfan2 · 01-09-2020 05:09PM

maddness wrote: »

The X Drive BMW’s have the softer standard suspension, even the m sport cars.

As far as I know the newer cars like g30 5series and g20 3 series are not like this. They have m sport suspension. It was the previous generation that had se suspension on x drive cars.

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