Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Atlantic Dawn · 01-09-2020 11:11PM

Open the pubs at the end of the month, if there's a rise in cases directly related to the pubs then shut them down again. Far less risk than putting a million children back to classrooms for 6 hours a day with 30 other children who each are going home to seperate homes.

Plumbthedepths · 01-09-2020 11:12PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Its a public forum if you don't want people to comment on your posts then maybe don't post.

Or maybe allow the poster who made the claim answer the question?
It was fairly obvious the question was in response to a claim made, your reply was a tetchy response that was not called for. Prehaps given your behaviour you should follow the last piece of advice you gave me.

Widdensushi · 01-09-2020 11:12PM

spookwoman wrote: »

What percentage are not suffering? Where is YOUR proof.

Surely the burden of proof falls on the original statement,about all the people that are suffering.

spookwoman · 01-09-2020 11:12PM

HSE report

6 confirmed in ICU 15 suspected
0 Death
6 Confirmed ventilated 5 suspected

spookwoman · 01-09-2020 11:13PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Surely the burden of proof falls on the original statement,about all the people that are suffering.

Burden of proof falls on both to prove their side of the argument

H8GHOTI · 01-09-2020 11:14PM

What’s the story with the case numbers today?

It seems ye’ve been talking about this for a few days and were expecting this but I haven’t been checking the thread. How do you know they are not for yesterday? They are from last week? Why did they hold them back to report today?

Dionaibh · 01-09-2020 11:14PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Did they not re set it 12 years ago? Hopefully they make a better job of it this time round

You should read about The Great Reset. They plan to reset every aspect of human life. You can read about it on the WEF's own website. The head of WEF, Karl Schwab, wrote a book called 'The Great Reset'. It's available to buy on Amazon.

Away With The Fairies · 01-09-2020 11:14PM

spookwoman wrote: »

HSE report

6 confirmed in ICU 15 suspected
0 Death
6 Confirmed ventilated 5 suspected

Is that 15 suspected in ICU?

Dr. Bre · 01-09-2020 11:14PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I now know a total of 15 people that includes the family of 3 i was talking to recently ( had it in March), even their cat got sick. One has a heart condition for years and was checked afterwards. His heart is no worse than before. All 15 including the cat fully recovered.

Good to hear the cat feline fine ..

Widdensushi · 01-09-2020 11:15PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Burden of proof falls on both to prove their side of the argument

So I can state whatever I want and you have to disprove it, good to know.

spookwoman · 01-09-2020 11:15PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is that 15 suspected in ICU?

yep

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-daily-operations-update-2000-01-september-2020.pdf

ACitizenErased · 01-09-2020 11:15PM

Reminder that suspected in ICU rarely turn to confirmed cases in ICU. Just people awaiting test results.

Plumbthedepths · 01-09-2020 11:17PM

Arghus wrote: »

9 suicides in Galway since June isn't positive, each suicide is a tragedy. But to be really objective about it we'd have to know the comparable suicide rates over the same period in other years. According to that article there were 421 in the country last year. Are those numbers indicative of a worse period than usual? I don't know the answer to that.

Suicides existed before Covid and lockdown too. And we have no idea what circumstances led to each one, it's a bit of a hot take to automatically link the whole Covid situation as the root cause for each and every one.

The year isn't over but I would certainly hope numbers would be less than last year but it looks highly unlikely.
We do know that the last recession caused an increase in suicides. The economic fallout from this ( yes I know much of it could not be avoided) is going to be enormous.
The only comfort I can see is we were lucky the virus didn't hit in the depths of winter.

Widdensushi · 01-09-2020 11:18PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is that 15 suspected in ICU?

You know exactly the relevancy of that figure, please don't represent it in a way that will cause undue panic, I am tired of trying to reassure people who are terrified by the 'suspected' cases in hospital.

drunkmonkey · 01-09-2020 11:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Reminder that suspected in ICU rarely turn to confirmed cases in ICU. Just people awaiting test results.

How many in ICU not covid related, Cillian said hospitals at 96% capacity on the tonight show, that's the big problem were back to not over running the hospitals.

Dionaibh · 01-09-2020 11:19PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The year isn't over but I would certainly hope numbers would be less than last year but it looks highly unlikely.
We do know that the last recession caused an increase in suicides. The economic fallout from this ( yes I know much of it could not be avoided) is going to be enormous.
The only comfort I can see is we were lucky the virus didn't hit in the depths of winter.

Almost all of it could have been avoided if sensible recommendations had been made. But with a diabolical media and a post-propagandised country sensible recommendations don't work.

Widdensushi · 01-09-2020 11:19PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

How many in ICU not covid related, Cillian said hospitals at 96% capacity on the tonight show, that's the big problem were back to not over running the hospitals.

What percentage were we at this time last year?

Plumbthedepths · 01-09-2020 11:20PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Burden of proof falls on both to prove their side of the argument

Just for clarification I didn't make a claim I asked a poster to back up what they said. You responded on their behalf asking me for proof of something I never said. Odd tbh.

ACitizenErased · 01-09-2020 11:20PM

There is currently 287 occupied critical care beds in the country.
6 are COVID patients.

SeaBreezes · 01-09-2020 11:21PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

9 since June. That cannot be spun as a positive.

How many last year?.

Spanish Eyes · 01-09-2020 11:21PM

Leaving aside all the fun comments, that I always appreciate anyway, I did really think that MUP was designed to stop drinkers from buying cheap alcohol in either the supermarket or the off licence. Pushing people back to the so called safety of the pub LOL. Something went wrong there, not necessarily Covid, but something did.

The Mup seems to have been turned on its head now anyway.

But to be honest if the so called non food pubs just ordered pizzas or something as many are doing, what's the issue? Price or whatever I suppose.

Many just want to go and have a few drinks and not be interrupted with food as a prerequisite for getting a drink.

Oh well thems the breaks now.

Plumbthedepths · 01-09-2020 11:23PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

How many last year?.

Scroll up.

SeaBreezes · 01-09-2020 11:23PM

Dionaibh wrote: »

Almost all of it could have been avoided if sensible recommendations had been made. But with a diabolical media and a post-propagandised country sensible recommendations don't work.

What would sensible mean for you?

spookwoman · 01-09-2020 11:24PM

Confirmed / Suspected ICU covid cases in ICU

Tue 25/08/2020 4/8
Wed 26/08/2020 4/7
Thur 27/08/2020 5/9
Fri 28/08/2020 5/6
Sat 29/08/2020 5/10
Sun 30/08/2020 5/14
Mon 31/08/2020 6/11
Tue 01/09/2020 6/15

Dionaibh · 01-09-2020 11:27PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

What would sensible mean for you?

If you're elderly or have underlying health problems be careful and stay at home if you want to. No hideous masks, no being afraid to shake hands or hug each other. No social isolation. But impossible with the Irish media.

DebDynamite · 01-09-2020 11:28PM

Is there a reason they call all those awaiting Covid results “suspected cases”?
Surely they should only be called that if there’s a high probability they have Covid, based on the symptoms they’re presenting with and not just those awaiting routine Covid results.

It’s a very misleading term to use

Widdensushi · 01-09-2020 11:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There is currently 287 occupied critical care beds in the country.
6 are COVID patients.

That's perspective,no way to know how many of the 6 would be in icu regardless of a positive result for covid.

SeaBreezes · 01-09-2020 11:29PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The year isn't over but I would certainly hope numbers would be less than last year but it looks highly unlikely.
We do know that the last recession caused an increase in suicides. The economic fallout from this ( yes I know much of it could not be avoided) is going to be enormous.
The only comfort I can see is we were lucky the virus didn't hit in the depths of winter.

So, your suggesting suicides are being increased by COVID restrictions while not having a clue what the actual numbers are for any year?

01-09-2020 11:29PM

Dionaibh wrote: »

If you're elderly or have underlying health problems be careful and stay at home if you want to. No hideous masks, no being afraid to shake hands or hug each other. No social isolation. But impossible with the Irish media.

So be different from most of the world you mean, yeah that would work out dandy.

drunkmonkey · 01-09-2020 11:30PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

What percentage were we at this time last year?

Way over capacity, https://inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13527

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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