Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

caveat emptor wrote: »

I wouldn’t be so sure asymptomatic means no long term damage.

https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1300866785869135872?s=21

Symptoms without symptoms? The whole article is a complete contradiction of itself.

caveat emptor wrote: »

I wouldn’t be so sure asymptomatic means no long term damage.

https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1300866785869135872?s=21

Djokavic will be fcuked, but not until 2025

Gruffalox wrote: »

I never said a sustained period. I said on a day or two.

I don't think you did to be fair, but if that what you meant, fair enough.

But you don't just take one or 2 days and compare it with one or 2 other days, you compare 7/14 day averages to get a better picture.

We had a similar amount of cases on the 28th of April as we had today, but comparing them is meaningless.

Gruffalox wrote: »

You distribute 100000 to 250000 cases over the time frame 1st March to end of August remembering it must ascend, peak then descend and show me how you fit in the numbers. 150000 divided by 180 days just at a flat rate is over 800. If 0.6% is 1800 then 100% is about 250000. 250000 divided by 180 days is 1400 every day since March 1st to August 31st. It peaked though and troughed. The numbers were WAY higher in the past.

Our mortality rate is higher than 0.6%.

Letting it run rampant in care homes skews the figure. We had 6000 confirmed cases in care homes with roughly 1000 deaths, 17% death rate. To put that in context we had over 8,000 health staff and 6 deaths. 0.08%.

You are scaling up from a deeply unreliable number.

As is the profile of confirmed cases, 6,000 of those in care homes and roughly 7,000 infections at work by medical professionals.

The most accurate figure you can use is hospitalizations which is 3,405, but even that is inflated because everyone was hospitalized at the start.

So with a hospitalization rate of 2-4%.

Shoot in the middle at 3% you get 113,500 infections divided by 180 is 630 per day average.

Remember large swathes of the country acted before our public health acted, that's what saved us from have a higher first surge of the disease IMHO.

If you look at the antibody testing from England it puts the figure at only 6%, given they went down the stiff upper lip method of once in generation pandemic control, we did the majority right at the start, they didn't. It would not surprise me in the least backed up by hospitalization numbers, that our instance rate is less than half of Englands. 2-2.5%.

Micky 32 wrote: »

I never said it can’t affect the heart. My point is i’d be more concerend about your cholesterol level affecting your heart longterm than going into hysterics about covid destroying my heart. The former is far more likely to happen.

Cholesterol level is controllable for the vast majority of people. This complication due to Covid 19 is not.

"A German study found that 78 percent of recovered COVID-19 patients, the majority of whom had only mild to moderate symptoms, demonstrated cardiac involvement more than two months after their initial diagnoses. Six in 10 were found to have persistent myocardial inflammation. While emphasizing that individual patients need not be nervous, lead investigator Elike Nagel added in an e-mail, “My personal take is that COVID will increase the incidence of heart failure over the next decades.”


Judge teams on their actions. American College sports are not resuming for a reason. Their have been worrying complications due to this virus to healthy elite athletes. This could be much worse in the next few mths if the virus transmits at a much greater level. The denial about how serious this virus is strange and irrational at this stage. Obviously post lockdown fatigue is affecting people's judgement on the seriousness of this virus

Widdensushi wrote: »

Americas is not the approach we should be looking to emulate, there is so much going on that there are other factors than covid stopping college sports.

Didn't state that, your missing the point I am making .Their a growing number of people who keep looking at the hospital numbers and are thinking that this virus is overestimated in its severity. Its not. College Sports are stopped in America because of higher transmission rates . The problem is that it is increasing here quite rabidly and the virus won't just simmer at these low levels it will start to hit more vulnerable people. The attitude/behavior of people is vastly different to that in April/May

wadacrack wrote: »

Cholesterol level is controllable for the vast majority of people. This complication due to Covid 19 is not.

"A German study found that 78 percent of recovered COVID-19 patients, the majority of whom had only mild to moderate symptoms, demonstrated cardiac involvement more than two months after their initial diagnoses. Six in 10 were found to have persistent myocardial inflammation. While emphasizing that individual patients need not be nervous, lead investigator Elike Nagel added in an e-mail, “My personal take is that COVID will increase the incidence of heart failure over the next decades.”


Judge teams on their actions. American College sports are not resuming for a reason. Their have been worrying complications due to this virus to healthy elite athletes. This could be much worse in the next few mths if the virus transmits at a much greater level. The denial about how serious this virus is strange and irrational at this stage. Obviously post lockdown fatigue is affecting people's judgement on the seriousness of this virus

American college sports are resuming. For example, 10 of the 12 football conferences are starting over the next couple of weeks. Basketball is making an announcement later this month but expected to start in November or early December, just a few weeks later than the normal start date.

https://www.ncaa.com/live-updates/ncaa/ncaa-sports-news-schedule-changes-coronavirus-updates-all-sports

wadacrack wrote: »

Didn't state that, your missing the point I am making .Their a growing number of people who keep looking at the hospital numbers and are thinking that this virus is overestimated in its severity. Its not. College Sports are stopped in America because of higher transmission rates . The problem is that it is increasing here quite rabidly and the virus won't just simmer at these low levels it will start to hit more vulnerable people. The attitude/behavior of people is vastly different to that in April/May

And it takes something pretty damned serious to stop College sports in the US -almost tantamount to a religion.

harr wrote: »

Not surprised by today’s figures, I know 3 families local who’s teenagers have come from holidays in Greece and now have Covid , two had no symptoms and continued with football training and working ,only got tested when a friend was confirmed positive. Most members of the households have gotten it.
So out of 3 teenagers who returned from Greece it has turned into a 3 separate clusters with some contacts still to be tested. Big numbers returning from Greece over the weekend.

Is Greece on the green list?

Gael23 wrote: »

Putting the fear of god in elderly people that they won’t be able to have their family for Christmas

To be fair, in what they’ve quoted De Gascun as saying, he never mentioned Christmas at all, he just said something vague like next month or in the next few weeks...it’s Breaking News that seems to have put in the Christmas clickbait nonsense

a large area of Scotland including Glasgow are back under restrictions again after 66 new cases were discovered in the region today

how many did Dublin have today?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0901/1162634-glasgow-covid-lockdown/