Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

drunkmonkey · 31-08-2020 09:17AM

Have you been to the mainland? I much prefer outdoors than been jammed in a pub, gladly sit down at the side of the street people watching with a few beers.

31-08-2020 09:22AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Have you been to the mainland? I much prefer outdoors than been jammed in a pub, gladly sit down at the side of the street people watching with a few beers.

Yes and while that's lovely in the 3 months a year where the weather is sometimes suitable for that, its not something we can come close to doing year round. Its fine suggesting this in August, but we're about to go into a 6-7 month period where you cannot comfortably sit outside with a beer.

podgeandrodge · 31-08-2020 09:23AM

Let's all agree that alcohol is essential to our wellbeing, but that we have different views on where it is best consumed!

CruelSummer · 31-08-2020 09:24AM

How many on this thread would support this
Health Passport Ireland - supposedly being piloted at the moment and to be brought into schools, nursing homes, etc.
Basically our civil rights gone & living under the complete control of the state.

Prof Luke O’Neil was on Newstalk just now actually promoting this:

https://youtu.be/U88ZKJhztiM

drunkmonkey · 31-08-2020 09:26AM

AdamD wrote: »

Yes and while that's lovely in the 3 months a year where the weather is sometimes suitable for that, its not something we can come close to doing year round. Its fine suggesting this in August, but we're about to go into a 6-7 month period where you cannot comfortably sit outside with a beer.

Smokers have been drinking outdoors all year around for years. There's some great all weather beer gardens in the country with plenty of fresh air. Stuck indoors with the doors closed front and back is not the way forward.

timsey tiger · 31-08-2020 09:26AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Have you been to the mainland? I much prefer outdoors than been jammed in a pub, gladly sit down at the side of the street people watching with a few beers.

Have you been to Ireland, the weather is ****e, compared with the mainland?

drunkmonkey · 31-08-2020 09:36AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

How many on this thread would support this
Health Passport Ireland - supposedly being piloted at the moment and to be brought into schools, nursing homes, etc.
Basically our civil rights gone & living under the complete control of the state.

Prof Luke O’Neil was on Newstalk just now actually promoting this:

https://youtu.be/U88ZKJhztiM

Oh ffs, time to put Luke out to pasture he's completely lost it. Gattaca here we come.

Sweet.Science · 31-08-2020 09:37AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Have you been to the mainland? I much prefer outdoors than been jammed in a pub, gladly sit down at the side of the street people watching with a few beers.

Whats the mainland ?

seamus · 31-08-2020 09:38AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

How many on this thread would support this
Health Passport Ireland - supposedly being piloted at the moment and to be brought into schools, nursing homes, etc.
Basically our civil rights gone & living under the complete control of the state.

Health Passport Ireland is a private venture, nothing to do with the state.

Looking at it, I can see the idea, but I'm skeptical about the utility. There are also very big privacy and data protection hurdles to overcome. It'll probably work in the US and Australia, but not here.

The idea is that you would use an app to display your "Covid status". That of course would require that someone has taken a covid test, recently.

Someone else could then use this to permit/deny entry to a facility. This is the sticking point that won't work. In many cases it would be illegal. In most cases people will tell you to go fnck yourself.

opinionated3 · 31-08-2020 09:39AM

Their trying this outdoor socialising crack on o connell sheet n Limerick at the moment. Looks utterly depressing. Give me my old rural Irish pub any day of the week. We don't have the climate for this to be a success.

mountgomery burns · 31-08-2020 09:41AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

How many on this thread would support this
Health Passport Ireland - supposedly being piloted at the moment and to be brought into schools, nursing homes, etc.
Basically our civil rights gone & living under the complete control of the state.

Prof Luke O’Neil was on Newstalk just now actually promoting this:

https://youtu.be/U88ZKJhztiM

What's it called again, I didn't quite catch it from the video

drunkmonkey · 31-08-2020 09:43AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Their trying this outdoor socialising crack on o connell sheet n Limerick at the moment. Looks utterly depressing. Give me my old rural Irish pub any day of the week. We don't have the climate for this to be a success.

It's a beauty of a morning I'd gladly sit outside with a beer of I didn't have to head to work.

GeorgeBailey · 31-08-2020 09:46AM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

What's it called again, I didn't quite catch it from the video

I think it's called The Bus that Couldn't Slow Down.

LessOutragePlz · 31-08-2020 09:51AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

How many on this thread would support this
Health Passport Ireland - supposedly being piloted at the moment and to be brought into schools, nursing homes, etc.
Basically our civil rights gone & living under the complete control of the state.

Prof Luke O’Neil was on Newstalk just now actually promoting this:

https://youtu.be/U88ZKJhztiM

Fvck that you can't tell me this is for the greater good too and all about protecting the vulnerable.

Hector Savage · 31-08-2020 09:51AM

I'd expect this nonsense in Spain , not Norway ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53969564

Twenty-five people have been taken to hospital with carbon monoxide poisoning after attending an illegal rave in a bunker in the Norwegian capital, Oslo.

Five are in a critical condition and two police officers who tended to the partygoers are among those poisoned.

Authorities believe the poisoning was caused by portable generators.

Police say the "Rave Cave" event, attended by some 200 people, was discovered by chance when a patrol met a group of confused young people.

Non solum non ambulabit · 31-08-2020 10:05AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

I'd expect this nonsense in Spain , not Norway ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53969564

Strange comment. Why Spain?

wadacrack · 31-08-2020 10:10AM

35 in hospital, Highest number in a number of months. The last week or so have seen a worrying increase

Happydays2020 · 31-08-2020 10:12AM

Is there a need to change how we report Covid cases in the country? I note that RTE still refer to the total number of cases since March. Referencing 27000 cases where over 20000 of which were in the period before June is at this point of time misleading.

Would it not be better to nuance this by including a 14 or 7 day average in cases, and refer to regional variations. Maybe reference how we are compared to our EU neighbours etc etc.

Happydays2020 · 31-08-2020 10:15AM

wadacrack wrote: »

35 in hospital, Highest number in a number of months. The last week or so have seen a worrying increase

What was the increase day on day? Are these linked to the known outbreaks and specifically the three counties who had further restrictions?

Ger Roe · 31-08-2020 10:18AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is there a need to change how we report Covid cases in the country? I note that RTE still refer to the total number of cases since March. Referencing 27000 cases where over 20000 of which were in the period before June is at this point of time misleading.

Would it not be better to nuance this by including a 14 or 7 day average in cases, and refer to regional variations. Maybe reference how we are compared to our EU neighbours etc etc.

The numbers game is still quite confusing - even the covid app is not updated daily and you are hearing numbers on the radio and tv that will not be displayed on the app for a further 24 - 48 hrs.

If they (HSE,DOH,Gov, whatever...) can't issue the same info on all their platforms at the same time, then your best bet to keep track is to stick to one and just wait for it to be updated.

schmoo2k · 31-08-2020 10:23AM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

They’re not stupid, a huge amount of their voter base would be in the “at risk” age group. They’ll hold their powder dry for the moment and when needed they’ll see which way the wind is blowing and blow the tune that will ring best with their voting public. Same as they’ve always done.

Like any good politician representing their constituents and their wants...

NegativeCreep · 31-08-2020 10:25AM

Mentioned in passing to my manager that I had a slight shortness of breath (I have asthma) yesterday and he kicked me out and told me not to come back until I had a negative test result. Guess my workplace are taking it fairly seriously!

schmoo2k · 31-08-2020 10:25AM

smellyoldboot wrote: »

I think the "loophole" needs to be closed completely. Restaurants only open. No alcohol sales. No pubs selling chipper food pretending to be restaurants.

You "need" a drink with your food? Great we have coke, Fanta, water etc. Are we really so hopelessly alcohol dependent that this **** is ok so long as we can get a pint?

You do know its not about the "drink" as such, its about enforcing restaurant style distancing?

is_that_so · 31-08-2020 10:34AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is there a need to change how we report Covid cases in the country? I note that RTE still refer to the total number of cases since March. Referencing 27000 cases where over 20000 of which were in the period before June is at this point of time misleading.

Would it not be better to nuance this by including a 14 or 7 day average in cases, and refer to regional variations. Maybe reference how we are compared to our EU neighbours etc etc.

It's just basic information. Anyone who wants more can poke around the various platforms of data. Total cases, new cases and hospitalisations are simple numbers we can all understand.

Derek Zoolander · 31-08-2020 10:38AM

Pretty interesting thread here - the settings of the machines are based in US - interesting if the same applies across the world

https://twitter.com/apoorva_nyc/status/1299705092178956288?s=21

Happydays2020 · 31-08-2020 10:41AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's just basic information. Anyone who wants more can poke around the various platforms of data. Total cases, new cases and hospitalisations are simple numbers we can all understand.

If may be basic information but how relevant is it? I pay for my news from the national broadcaster and I think in a public health emergency it should be relevant and this is where most of the population receive their information. I would imagine that the presentation of this data is influenced by NPHET and the Government but what is the most relevant data for behaviour at this time?

ChikiChiki · 31-08-2020 10:41AM

Listening to Claire Byrne.

Meat factories sound like an absolute scumbag operation. Very threatening environment for workers.:mad:

GooglePlus · 31-08-2020 10:44AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's a beauty of a morning I'd gladly sit outside with a beer of I didn't have to head to work.

Your beer won't get warm either, there's always a silver lining.

podgeandrodge · 31-08-2020 10:45AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Listening to Claire Byrne.

Meat factories sound like an absolute scumbag operation. Very threatening environment for workers.:mad:

Yes, but the pubs are closed, so we're ok.

seamus · 31-08-2020 10:49AM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's just basic information. Anyone who wants more can poke around the various platforms of data. Total cases, new cases and hospitalisations are simple numbers we can all understand.

I tend to agree with him. As time goes on certain types of information become less useful and relevant.

Total number of cases ever doesn't really tell us anything any more. It doesn't tell us if things are getting worse or better. It's just now a big number and any chance for it to cause shock are gone.

Reminds me a lot of the banking bailout. For weeks the media kept throwing out more and more billions of euros, bigger and bigger numbers to try and cause greater alarm. Eventually nobody really knew what the real number was and it lost its impact.

I think the national 14-day average would be a good start, as well as keeping track of the number of active infections. 142 cases out of 27,000 total cases is a small number. But if we only have 1,000 active infections, then 142 new ones is a big problem.

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