Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

hynesie08 · 30-08-2020 09:29PM

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Wrong yet again....the pub added nor restaurant to its premises,
Are you completely unable to read basic English.
The trailer is not parked on the premises, in fact I am not even sure the trailer belongs to the pub and it may well be a deal between the food vendor and the PUB.

The pub did not alter its premises.

You can try deflect, spin, but it wont change the facts.

It's a resteraunt........

odyssey06 · 30-08-2020 09:30PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Was it? Not disputing you at all, but I suppose it has all been overtaken by the Covid restrictions.
Still the off licences are open and the non food pubs are closed. I though MUP was designed to get people back in the pubs and not buy cheap grog in the off licences?

Yep, that's the real agenda behind MUP but it also had 'cover' from independent off licences, health bodies, and the general anti alcohol brigade. An unholy alliance.
And no real grouping taking a public stand against it.

Whereas pushing for re-opening of pubs, it's the LVA versus a lot of that lobby on the other side.
And NPHET with the casting vote.

MrStuffins · 30-08-2020 09:33PM

jt69er wrote: »

Note the question mark, I was asking do they always do free pints with food?

So it's a question of syntax? Because......

jt69er wrote: »

Is that not what you said here?

Again, I'm not sure where you're seeing this.

But if you can show me, I'll happily discuss it with you.

Spanish Eyes · 30-08-2020 09:36PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Yep, that's the real agenda behind MUP but it also had 'cover' from independent off licences, health bodies, and the general anti alcohol brigade. An unholy alliance.
And no real grouping taking a public stand against it.

Whereas pushing for re-opening of pubs, it's the LVA versus a lot of that lobby on the other side.

We should be able to do what we wish, but the thought police are out now and are trying to control us.

I find it hilarious that the off licences and supermarkets can sell grog to beat the band, but the pubs are closed.

The opposite of MUP really.

MrStuffins · 30-08-2020 09:42PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

It's a resteraunt........

Selling a burger doesn't change a pub to a restaurant just like....... well, I'll let you explain

hynesie08 wrote: »

Yes, you can also get a pint in the lighthouse cinema and bring it to the movie with you, doesn't make screen 1 a pub

giveitholly · 30-08-2020 09:43PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

14 deaths in the last month despite around 2500 cases. No deaths in 8 days. No ICU admissions in 4 days.

Winterflu season kills 200-500 over the 4 months of winter. Between 50-125 deaths per month.

We can open pubs for Flu season but not this has-been virus. It is nonsense. It is anti-alcohol. Not covid, Anti-alcohol.

Any idea if those 14 deaths occurred in the last month or were some of them back dated?

jt69er · 30-08-2020 09:45PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

So it's a question of syntax? Because......

Again, I'm not sure where you're seeing this.

But if you can show me, I'll happily discuss it with you.

I'll ask again if you don't mind answering, do they always offer free pints with food?

MrStuffins · 30-08-2020 09:51PM

jt69er wrote: »

I'll ask again if you don't mind answering, do they always offer free pints with food?

As I said in a previous post, I'm not a regular there. Before yesterday I hadn't been there in approx a year.

Richard Hillman · 30-08-2020 10:05PM

giveitholly wrote: »

Any idea if those 14 deaths occurred in the last month or were some of them back dated?

Not sure but you can bet your bottom that some of them are.

jt69er · 30-08-2020 10:06PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

As I said in a previous post, I'm not a regular there. Before yesterday I hadn't been there in approx a year.

I'm sure they were delighted to see you, seven delicious pints, nachos, a tip and out the door in 1hr 45 mins, customers like you are hard come by.
Do you happen to remember the name of the place by any chance, wouldnt mind trying it out.

questionmark? · 30-08-2020 10:28PM

jt69er wrote: »

Note the question mark,

What you saying about me buddy

jt69er · 30-08-2020 10:36PM

questionmark? wrote: »

What you saying about me buddy

Sorry did'nt see you there

BPKS · 30-08-2020 10:38PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

The scenes in Killarney is a good example of why Pubs should remain closed, alcohol diminishes peoples reasoning re distancing etc

I'd say direct a bit of your ire at the supermarkets and coke dealers

weldoninhio · 31-08-2020 07:26AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

And I can get a burger from the pub.

Doesn't make it a restaurant

If it’s not currently operating as a restaurant, a pub premises cannot open. It’s the law.

weldoninhio · 31-08-2020 07:30AM

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

wah wah wah,....

what are you hoping to achieve with all this crying ?
If you are a publican that has been shut then you have my sympathy, but if you are not a publican or an employee, why are you so emotionally invested ?

Why is it imperative to you that pubs are so important during a global pandemic, how are you personally affected ?

You made you point over and over an over how you think its unfair some pubs are closed.....we get it, get over it and move on.
All this crying wont change the ruling.

All pubs have been closed since March 15th

MrStuffins · 31-08-2020 07:51AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

All pubs have been closed since March 15th

This is not true. I was in the pub on Saturday. I had 7 tasty pints of Guinness. Watched a bit of football. Really enjoyed it!

31-08-2020 08:45AM

Had a few pints over the weekend in various establishments. 2 out of 3 definitely not restaurants.

Friday: Pub/Restaurant. Had food with the pints. No time limit in place as the place wasn't busy. Was great.

Saturday: Went to a pub for the match at 4.30. No requirement to have food, the pub owner distributed free food to those who wanted it. Majority of the punters kept their distance from each other as the tables were adequately spaced. Last pints at 10pm.

Sunday: Noticed a local pub was reopened on route to restaurant/pub on Friday evening. Said I must stick my head in see what the set up is. Went by Sunday and stuck my head in to see what the craic was. Could get pints no problem, max 3 pints, without 'buying food'. Menu was put on my table just in case of an unexpected visit from the guards. Options, ham and chesse toasties. Again tables adequately spaced and the place wasn't too busy so didn't feel like I was at risk at all. Had 3 pints and left. Gut feeling tells me I could have stayed for more without getting food.

dominatinMC · 31-08-2020 08:57AM

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Had a few pints over the weekend in various establishments. 2 out of 3 definitely not restaurants.

Friday: Pub/Restaurant. Had food with the pints. No time limit in place as the place wasn't busy. Was great.

Saturday: Went to a pub for the match at 4.30. No requirement to have food, the pub owner distributed free food to those who wanted it. Majority of the punters kept their distance from each other as the tables were adequately spaced. Last pints at 10pm.

Sunday: Noticed a local pub was reopened on route to restaurant/pub on Friday evening. Said I must stick my head in see what the set up is. Went by Sunday and stuck my head in to see what the craic was. Could get pints no problem, max 3 pints, without 'buying food'. Menu was put on my table just in case of an unexpected visit from the guards. Options, ham and chesse toasties. Again tables adequately spaced and the place wasn't too busy so didn't feel like I was at risk at all. Had 3 pints and left. Gut feeling tells me I could have stayed for more without getting food.

Sounds like a lot of common sense involved, no harm in the setups you've described

AUDI20 · 31-08-2020 09:27AM

BPKS wrote: »

I'd say direct a bit of your ire at the supermarkets and coke dealers

Sorry didn't realise Pubs didn't sell alcohol

weldoninhio · 31-08-2020 09:42AM

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Had a few pints over the weekend in various establishments. 2 out of 3 definitely not restaurants.

Friday: Pub/Restaurant. Had food with the pints. No time limit in place as the place wasn't busy. Was great.

Saturday: Went to a pub for the match at 4.30. No requirement to have food, the pub owner distributed free food to those who wanted it. Majority of the punters kept their distance from each other as the tables were adequately spaced. Last pints at 10pm.

Sunday: Noticed a local pub was reopened on route to restaurant/pub on Friday evening. Said I must stick my head in see what the set up is. Went by Sunday and stuck my head in to see what the craic was. Could get pints no problem, max 3 pints, without 'buying food'. Menu was put on my table just in case of an unexpected visit from the guards. Options, ham and chesse toasties. Again tables adequately spaced and the place wasn't too busy so didn't feel like I was at risk at all. Had 3 pints and left. Gut feeling tells me I could have stayed for more without getting food.

So 1 restaurant and 2 publicans breaking the law.

MrStuffins · 31-08-2020 09:47AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

So 1 restaurant and 2 publicans breaking the law.

You're complaining when the pubs are closed.

You're complaining when the pubs are open.

Make up your mind man! Maybe go to the pub, have a pint and relax! Just like the rest of us are doing. Sounds like you need it.

stephenjmcd · 31-08-2020 10:33AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

I had 7 tasty pints of Guinness.

Your like a broken down record. The same sentence every single day.

We get it you had 7 pints, you were in an establishment that didn't follow guidelines, you've made it perfectly clear.

Christ its annoying reading the same sentence every bloody day.

31-08-2020 10:47AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

So 1 restaurant and 2 publicans breaking the law.

Yes, breaking the law but making a living by applying common sense.

Felt a lot safer having pints at adequately spaced out tables than getting public transport to these pubs for pints when passengers in front and behind me are no more than 50cms away from me some not wearing masks.

IAMAMORON · 31-08-2020 11:08AM

Pubs are pulling pints 8 weeks in the UK and still no " second wave " over there? The same for most of Europe? We are the last country in Europe to still have wet pubs closed.

MrStuffins · 31-08-2020 11:15AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We get it you had 7 pints, you were in an establishment that didn't follow guidelines, you've made it perfectly clear.

Didn't follow guidelines? I don't remember saying this.

owlbethere · 31-08-2020 11:17AM

How are wet pubs still ordered to shut? I'm not a big pub goer so it doesn't really affect me but people have jobs and livelihoods tied up in pubs.

I thought the idea of the lockdown lifting was for us all to keep our close contacts low? Schools are allowed to go back which would push the close contacts of children and families up. Not only schools but after school and weekend activities are also starting up like music, dance, drama and these are all indoor activities. It's one thing to get the schools back but it's another thing where students and pupils are mixing with students and pupils from other schools during their extra activities.

Where is the sense in any of this? How is the government picking and choosing what parts of society and the economy to open up?

I wonder was there vulture funds CEOs at the golf gate so that they could plan to snap up a lot of these pubs on the cheap?

feelings · 31-08-2020 11:24AM

Thought I would share my experience. Was in a recently re-opened pub in a popular dublin seaside town last week. Six staff had no mask on, the manager, four bar staff and the security guy. No sanitizer at the front door and none on the tables. Free for all for those walking in off the street. No bookings required.

US2 · 31-08-2020 11:26AM

feelings wrote: »

Thought I would share my experience. Was in a recently re-opened pub in a popular dublin seaside town last week. Six staff had no mask on, the manager, four bar staff and the security guy. No sanitizer at the front door and none on the tables. Free for all for those walking in off the street. No bookings required.

as it should be.

weldoninhio · 31-08-2020 11:30AM

Lefty2Guns wrote: »

Yes, breaking the law but making a living by applying common sense.

Felt a lot safer having pints at adequately spaced out tables than getting public transport to these pubs for pints when passengers in front and behind me are no more than 50cms away from me some not wearing masks.

Stopped reading there.

stephenjmcd · 31-08-2020 11:30AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Didn't follow guidelines? I don't remember saying this.

You watched the football, which was on for longer than 105 minutes, €9 included food and a drink which isn't allowed either, they are to be separate purchases.

So yes didn't follow guidelines and you said the above.

But sure you'll just repeat the same sentance day in day out. "The Guinness was lovely"

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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