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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Blondini wrote: »
    I'm tired now.

    I'm taking the p1ss ya dose.

    Go sleep in a marquee or something.

    Or maybe get the hair cut in said marquee!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Who is responsible for putting down markings in the school? Is it teachers themselves or does someone else do it? We open on Monday and i was in today and no markings on floor anywhere. I had asked for a 2 metre space to be taped out around my whiteboard but its not done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Who is responsible for putting down markings in the school? Is it teachers themselves or does someone else do it? We open on Monday and i was in today and no markings on floor anywhere. I had asked for a 2 metre space to be taped out around my whiteboard but its not done.

    We had to do everything ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    We had to do everything ourselves.

    Thats okay. I was told it would be done so guess I'll be doing it tomorrow so. No problem with doing it but wish we were told before now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Caretaker did everything outside, teachers inside


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    khalessi wrote: »
    Caretaker did everything outside, teachers inside

    No caretaker and no markings outside yet either. Will be doing my own classroom and thats it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭3xh


    Blondini wrote: »

    I'm taking the p1ss ya dose.

    I know! The others aren’t going to search for such.
    Good night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    khalessi wrote: »
    Caretaker did everything outside, teachers inside

    Same in ours. Having said that wasn't there meant to be a Covid aide appointed or was just for secondary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Same in ours. Having said that wasn't there meant to be a Covid aide appointed or was just for secondary?

    No there was one for primary and we got the money for it. I seen the letter in the office. But nothing unusual in money going into a black hole and not being accounted for in my school


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Same in ours. Having said that wasn't there meant to be a Covid aide appointed or was just for secondary?

    We have a LWR but not sure if was elected or volunteered but they did a good job so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    khalessi wrote: »
    We have a LWR but not sure if was elected or volunteered but they did a good job so far.

    Our LWR is our principal. They are about as good at that as they are at being principal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Sammy2012 wrote: »
    Our LWR is our principal. They are about as good at that as they are at being principal.

    Were nominations looked for and a vote taken?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Were nominations looked for and a vote taken?

    No to both. They just decided themselves and then informed the staff


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    3xh wrote: »
    I tried saying the same over the past week to the very (coincidentally) poster you quoted here. She called me Trump and all sorts when I pointed out to her the issues with her understanding of the facts as they’re presented to her. They’re generally in a neat, easy to remember form, clearly devoid of her own critical thinking. She then said she’s through talking to me.

    I had highlighted how a self-proclaimed ‘mother, children’s doctor and researcher’ took part in that very study you copied here and that the facts stated 100% of the children that died (just 6 children in 6 months) had underlying conditions and co-morbidities.

    If you have been genuinely following Covid developments you won’t all throw your hands up in the air and scream ‘racist!’ when I say BAME deaths are accepted as being disproportionately higher than white child deaths.
    Ireland has a very low non-white school population. And even of the so-called BAME students we do have in our schools, the chance of them contracting and passing it on is minuscule.
    The author of this fact based report (the mother, children’s doctor and researcher) said so herself.

    Yet in this thank infested vacuum, you need to conform to the consensus to be accepted as a normal person and not a conspiracy theorist, Gemma fan, etc.

    Genuine question, what part of the study mentioned here^^^ does anyone have an issue with? Take as long as you need to get around to actually reading it.

    You're talking about me there, and once again, not at all accurate and not at all surprising. Totally made up waffle (and apparently you've decided I'm a she, interesting) which is why I said I'm no longer engaging with you. You claimed I said things that just weren't said at all and when asked to point it out in your claims of course you couldn't back it up. You go off on unrelated, insane rants, then you crossed over to this thread and immediately started posting here in the same aggressive manner. You don't seem popular here, either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    This thread is going full Gemma O’Doherty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    interesting to see UK academics concerns about reopening

    UK university reopenings risk ‘public health crisis’, academics warn

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/29/uk-university-reopenings-risk-covid-public-health-crisis-teaching-union-warns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    This thread is going full Gemma O’Doherty.

    Do you know what she did in a former career?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    combat14 wrote: »
    interesting to see UK academics concerns about reopening

    UK university reopenings risk ‘public health crisis’, academics warn

    And yet our own experts here have warned that not sending children to school poses a greater risk than Covid-19.

    Wonder if there's a healthy middle ground between the two extremes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Do you know what she did in a former career?

    Your point is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    It's a down right blatant lie devoid of facts, read your first line then go read the article. Explain to me why real world evidence isn't acceptable.
    What real word data are you basing your facts on all i'm seeing in your post is assumptions and a fear of kids noses.

    drunk, as I have written here before many many many times children get covid like adults but not as bad. I have also said that they can be sick but that is rare and it is rarer still for children to get MIS-C.

    You seem to be arguing with yourself.

    Oh the children having more coronarvirus in their noses is based on a study from the real world. Does that invalidate it because it doesnt suit your views?

    The issue with children having more coronarvirus in their nose then adults is they have the potential to spread it as easily as adults, without the need to be sick or showing symptoms, which is one of many studies our government chose to ignore to get the schools open

    You will see what you want to see in people's posts but for the most part people have been reasonable on here for the last while apart from a certain minority.

    Regarding fear, I dont have any but thank you for another assumption. I worked as a nurse with infectious diseases, and take necessary precautions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    'How long can Covid-19 be in a school before anybody knows?'

    Maeve Sheehan talks to a professor of virology who believes reopening our schools at this point in the pandemic is a big mistake


    how-long-can-covid-19-be-in-a-school-before-anybody-knows-39488816.html

    Guess schools are open now we will know in a couple of weeks if the professor is right..


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    combat14 wrote: »
    'How long can Covid-19 be in a school before anybody knows?'

    Maeve Sheehan talks to a professor of virology who believes reopening our schools at this point in the pandemic is a big mistake


    how-long-can-covid-19-be-in-a-school-before-anybody-knows-39488816.html

    Guess schools are open now we will know in a couple of weeks if the professor is right..

    Gerry Killeen would have us confined to our homes until there’s a vaccine. He is right out there, and has no business spreading this fear as schools are going back. I am disappointed at the Indo for giving him such extensive and unopposed column inches


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    combat14 wrote: »
    Guess schools are open now we will know in a couple of weeks if the professor is right..

    I think it can take longer than a couple of weeks to really see how our actions have effected the spread of Covid. Especially when the HSE currently seems to be saying they won't need to do mass testing when cases are found in schools. With asymptomatic and extremely mild infections being very common, it can take a while then for the effects to become obvious. That's why this virus has such disastrous consequences for societies. It seems to be containable for a very long time, while quietly growing exponentially. It isn't until large numbers of vulnerable people have been infected that the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. And by that time, the virus is once again all over the place and the realities of exponential growth make it seem as if it appeared suddenly out of nowhere.

    I strongly suspect that right now we are seeing a certain amount of what we missed completely in winter/early spring. The virus spreading slowly but surely, causing mainly very mild illnesses. At the start of the year we were totally unaware and by the time we realised it was here and acted, it was too late to prevent the surge in cases and deaths. If school opening really is a mistake I suspect it may be mid-October by the time we actually see the evidence of that. By which time, it will be too late. It's exactly what happened in Israel, which kept schools open through June, which was responsible for 47% of infections at the beginning of it's second wave, which has proven deadlier than it's first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭combat14


    iguana wrote: »
    I think it can take longer than a couple of weeks to really see how our actions have effected the spread of Covid. Especially when the HSE currently seems to be saying they won't need to do mass testing when cases are found in schools. With asymptomatic and extremely mild infections being very common, it can take a while then for the effects to become obvious. That's why this virus has such disastrous consequences for societies. It seems to be containable for a very long time, while quietly growing exponentially. It isn't until large numbers of vulnerable people have been infected that the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. And by that time, the virus is once again all over the place and the realities of exponential growth make it seem as if it appeared suddenly out of nowhere.

    I strongly suspect that right now we are seeing a certain amount of what we missed completely in winter/early spring. The virus spreading slowly but surely, causing mainly very mild illnesses. At the start of the year we were totally unaware and by the time we realised it was here and acted, it was too late to prevent the surge in cases and deaths. If school opening really is a mistake I suspect it may be mid-October by the time we actually see the evidence of that. By which time, it will be too late. It's exactly what happened in Israel, which kept schools open through June, which was responsible for 47% of infections at the beginning of it's second wave, which has proven deadlier than it's first.

    you are probably right the amount of people who were very sick from december on and potentially had covid is anecdotally very high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,880 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    iguana wrote: »
    I think it can take longer than a couple of weeks to really see how our actions have effected the spread of Covid. Especially when the HSE currently seems to be saying they won't need to do mass testing when cases are found in schools. With asymptomatic and extremely mild infections being very common, it can take a while then for the effects to become obvious. That's why this virus has such disastrous consequences for societies. It seems to be containable for a very long time, while quietly growing exponentially. It isn't until large numbers of vulnerable people have been infected that the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. And by that time, the virus is once again all over the place and the realities of exponential growth make it seem as if it appeared suddenly out of nowhere.

    I strongly suspect that right now we are seeing a certain amount of what we missed completely in winter/early spring. The virus spreading slowly but surely, causing mainly very mild illnesses. At the start of the year we were totally unaware and by the time we realised it was here and acted, it was too late to prevent the surge in cases and deaths. If school opening really is a mistake I suspect it may be mid-October by the time we actually see the evidence of that. By which time, it will be too late. It's exactly what happened in Israel, which kept schools open through June, which was responsible for 47% of infections at the beginning of it's second wave, which has proven deadlier than it's first.

    But we've had 50-150 new cases per day for a month now, and deaths and ICU cases are still miniscule. At what point can we breathe a sigh of relief and conclude that life-threatening covid is not coming back in any serious way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    But we've had 50-150 new cases per day for a month now, and deaths and ICU cases are still miniscule. At what point can we breathe a sigh of relief and conclude that life-threatening covid is not coming back in any serious way?

    How about when thousands of people aren't dying from covid every single day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,880 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    How about when thousands of people aren't dying from covid every single day?

    In Ireland I'm talking about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Oh. You meant Irish-covid.

    I see


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In Ireland I'm talking about

    I'd rather be proactive than reactive


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    iguana wrote: »
    I think it can take longer than a couple of weeks to really see how our actions have effected the spread of Covid. Especially when the HSE currently seems to be saying they won't need to do mass testing when cases are found in schools. With asymptomatic and extremely mild infections being very common, it can take a while then for the effects to become obvious. That's why this virus has such disastrous consequences for societies. It seems to be containable for a very long time, while quietly growing exponentially. It isn't until large numbers of vulnerable people have been infected that the magnitude of the problem becomes clear. And by that time, the virus is once again all over the place and the realities of exponential growth make it seem as if it appeared suddenly out of nowhere.

    I strongly suspect that right now we are seeing a certain amount of what we missed completely in winter/early spring. The virus spreading slowly but surely, causing mainly very mild illnesses. At the start of the year we were totally unaware and by the time we realised it was here and acted, it was too late to prevent the surge in cases and deaths. If school opening really is a mistake I suspect it may be mid-October by the time we actually see the evidence of that. By which time, it will be too late. It's exactly what happened in Israel, which kept schools open through June, which was responsible for 47% of infections at the beginning of it's second wave, which has proven deadlier than it's first.

    It most certainly is a mistake and even the timing is horrible. We have restarted schools right at the spark point of a second exponential growth curve. Equivalent to initiating tax breaks and grant schemes amid the first green shoots of economic growth following a recession. We are effectively providing the perfect conditions for growth and will then (officialdom at least) feign disbelief and amazement when we get just that result.


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