Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

s1ippy · 29-08-2020 10:47PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Whatever about covid, are you not worried about your friend going on a week-long bender?

Nah, we would all do that the whole time. Not even necessarily drinking or drugging but just be out around the place having the craic and crashing at each other's gafs playing video games and listening to music and cooking. I miss it.

Nickla wrote: »

your friend went from work last week on a pub crawl and hasn't been home since - does he change his clothes? if he's been locked down since this started then he doesn't work in a food factory or in health care so there really isn't any reason for him to decide to become a super spreader out of spite. If he was genuinely concerned he would be doing everything he could to minimise risk - his crowds ridiculous behavior could result in a cluster damaging the business of any of the pubs/restaurants they are enjoying now, or worse still all businesses affected by a lock down. Lots of people have been working since the start of covid. If he feels at risk of getting covid at work but happy to spread it around then he's an arsehole

In our group of friends we would wear similar styles of clothes or can adapt an outfit to suit from each other's, and all have a litany of borrowed ones in each others houses. It's actually a handy system. I haven't been out with the lads, so not much use to me anymore

He doesn't personally care about the businesses affected by lockdown. The business he works for is putting him in harm's way, in spite of the fact that up to this week, he has done everything he can not to contract covid. Without specifically naming his job, there will be crowded situations for long periods, no mask enforcement (staff are being being discouraged from wearing one as they're off-putting) and no taking of details in case there's a need to trace close contacts.

He just feels like why bother going out of his way and not have any craic when he's just going to be thrown in the sh!t next week. I see where he's coming from, I feel kind of sorry for him. I don't really agree with his actions but can definitely get his logic. Why should your work be able to put you in unsafe situations but you cant decide for yourself if you want to do something that's fun and unsafe.

Nickla · 29-08-2020 10:50PM

Do you share underwear?

owlbethere · 29-08-2020 10:50PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

No, but doing a good job of trying to catch something that he can then spread. What wonderful person he is!

He can stay in all he wants until the cows come home but by the looks of it, all he has to do is to attend to work and his risk of picking up the virus increases there. What's the point staying in like a hermit to avoid a risk of picking up virus, when there is risk at his workplace? Some employers don't give a flying fcuk about other people.

s1ippy · 29-08-2020 10:51PM

Nickla wrote: »

Do you share underwear?

We're at one with nature, while preferably wearing kilts for optimum ventilation.

harr · 29-08-2020 10:52PM

Why suddenly am I encountering so many people who are anti everthing even normal vaccines.. people who were never part of the tin foil hat group have suddenly started believing everything the local Karen posts on Facebook.. these are educated people and some work in health care.
People are really starting to believe a lot of on line content that is coming from questionable sources.
Even the more extreme conspiracy theories that most people would have laughed at 6 months are now filtering into everyday conversations.

growleaves · 29-08-2020 10:52PM

s1ippy wrote: »

We're at one with nature, while preferably wearing kilts for optimum ventilation.

You're taking this thread to strange new places.

spookwoman · 29-08-2020 10:59PM

growleaves wrote: »

You're taking this thread to strange new places.

The threads on the kilts are going to strange dark places

Away With The Fairies · 29-08-2020 10:59PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Nah, we would all do that the whole time. Not even necessarily drinking or drugging but just be out around the place having the craic and crashing at each other's gafs playing video games and listening to music and cooking. I miss it.

In our group of friends we would wear similar styles of clothes or can adapt an outfit to suit from each other's, and all have a litany of borrowed ones in each others houses. It's actually a handy system. I haven't been out with the lads, so not much use to me anymore

He doesn't personally care about the businesses affected by lockdown. The business he works for is putting him in harm's way, in spite of the fact that up to this week, he has done everything he can not to contract covid. Without specifically naming his job, there will be crowded situations for long periods, no mask enforcement (staff are being being discouraged from wearing one as they're off-putting) and no taking of details in case there's a need to trace close contacts.

He just feels like why bother going out of his way and not have any craic when he's just going to be thrown in the sh!t next week. I see where he's coming from, I feel kind of sorry for him. I don't really agree with his actions but can definitely get his logic. Why should your work be able to put you in unsafe situations but you cant decide for yourself if you want to do something that's fun and unsafe.

If he's doing everything not to get this virus, it means telling his workplace to fcuk right off. Get them reported to the HSA if his concerns aren't met.

Nickla · 29-08-2020 11:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If he's doing everything not to get this virus, it means telling his workplace to fcuk right off. Get them reported to the HSA if his concerns aren't met.

but it sounds like he's only worried about the virus when he has to work

Spanish Eyes · 29-08-2020 11:07PM

I think most people are just so weary of all this now, but accept the rules for the most part.

Where will it all end though?

Anyway, Autumn, dark nights, and Winter beckons. Should be fun.

s1ippy · 29-08-2020 11:47PM

Nickla wrote: »

but it sounds like he's only worried about the virus when he has to work

Well, not really. He's resigning himself to the fact that his risk is massively increased by work, which is outside of his control, and thus going out to live life again because it's the same (or less) risk than what he's facing while working.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If he's doing everything not to get this virus, it means telling his workplace to fcuk right off. Get them reported to the HSA if his concerns aren't met.

He emailed them but has received no response.

Roger_007 · 30-08-2020 12:14AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I think most people are just so weary of all this now, but accept the rules for the most part.

Where will it all end though?

Anyway, Autumn, dark nights, and Winter beckons. Should be fun.

The end point is something that is not discussed. The truth that is dawning on many people is that maybe there is no end point. The virus is so widespread in the world that it may never be possible to eliminate it.
The prospect that is being held out as a solution is that when an effective and safe vaccine is found, all life can return to ‘normal’. This is, at best, a hope rather than a realistic prospect.
In time we will come to regard Covid as something we have to live with, just like seasonal flu. In the meantime we are foolishly thrashing our entire social fabric and economy in a futile attempt to ‘defeat’ this virus. More people will die from our feeble attempts to eliminate the virus than will die from the virus itself.
It’s just a question of how much damage we are prepared to tolerate before we acknowledge the stupidity of what we are doing.

30-08-2020 12:19AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

The end point is something that is not discussed. The truth that is dawning on many people is that maybe there is no end point. The virus is so widespread in the world that it may never be possible to eliminate it.
The prospect that is being held out as a solution is that when an effective and safe vaccine is found, all life can return to ‘normal’. This is, at best, a hope rather than a realistic prospect.
In time we will come to regard Covid as something we have to live with, just like seasonal flu. In the meantime we are foolishly thrashing our entire social fabric and economy in a futile attempt to ‘defeat’ this virus. More people will die from our feeble attempts to eliminate the virus than will die from the virus itself.
It’s just a question of how much damage we are prepared to tolerate before we acknowledge the stupidity of what we are doing.

We all have to accept we will get covid. Deferral is best for everyone, kick the can, get fitter, new treatments vaccines. We should have a boards party when this is finished. Sorry had a few Guinness tonight. First in a long time, they were great.

podgeandrodge · 30-08-2020 12:19AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

The end point is something that is not discussed. The truth that is dawning on many people is that maybe there is no end point. The virus is so widespread in the world that it may never be possible to eliminate it.
The prospect that is being held out as a solution is that when an effective and safe vaccine is found, all life can return to ‘normal’. This is, at best, a hope rather than a realistic prospect.
In time we will come to regard Covid as something we have to live with, just like seasonal flu. In the meantime we are foolishly thrashing our entire social fabric and economy in a futile attempt to ‘defeat’ this virus. More people will die from our feeble attempts to eliminate the virus than will die from the virus itself.
It’s just a question of how much damage we are prepared to tolerate before we acknowledge the stupidity of what we are doing.

I think there is an increasing amount of the population beginning to reach that conclusion.

30-08-2020 12:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

We all have to accept we will get covid. Deferral is best for everyone, kick the can, get fitter, new treatments vaccines. We should have a boards party when this is finished. Sorry had a few Guinness tonight. First in a long time, they were great.

Training for Dublin City marathon virtual. Ran DCM every year since 2016. Will be hard to motivate myself to run 26 miles by myself instead of with 22500 runners and a similar amount of spectators. 2020 is truly a very strange year...

caveat emptor · 30-08-2020 12:29AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE Daily Operations Update

31 in hospital, no change.
2 confirmed cases in hospitals today, both at St. James'.
5 in ICU and 3 ventilated, no change.

Thanks citizen, is there a breakdown for which hospitals?

30-08-2020 12:34AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I think most people are just so weary of all this now, but accept the rules for the most part.

Where will it all end though?

Anyway, Autumn, dark nights, and Winter beckons. Should be fun.

We will prevail. Gladiator is on rte2. Maximus would lead us through this. Strength and honour...

FintanMcluskey · 30-08-2020 12:39AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

The end point is something that is not discussed. The truth that is dawning on many people is that maybe there is no end point. The virus is so widespread in the world that it may never be possible to eliminate it.
The prospect that is being held out as a solution is that when an effective and safe vaccine is found, all life can return to ‘normal’. This is, at best, a hope rather than a realistic prospect.
In time we will come to regard Covid as something we have to live with, just like seasonal flu. In the meantime we are foolishly thrashing our entire social fabric and economy in a futile attempt to ‘defeat’ this virus. More people will die from our feeble attempts to eliminate the virus than will die from the virus itself.
It’s just a question of how much damage we are prepared to tolerate before we acknowledge the stupidity of what we are doing.

And that's why the relaxation of restrictions thread is alive and well.

The restrictions may have done more damage than the virus, but it depends on your value of life

bb1234567 · 30-08-2020 12:40AM

Interesting new study of non hospitalised COVID carriers, ocular issues appear to be very common with almost 3/4 experiencing at least one ocular issue..the most common being burning sensation in the eyes which over 1/3 reported.

I found this pretty shocking because I posted a while ago about some reduced lung capacityI noticed after my sister arrived back from Lombardy with flu like illness in February,and that I wondered if I may have been an asymptomatic infection..my only symptoms apart were the breathlessness (which has since completely passed) and burning red eyes. I would imagine if I were to get an antibody test that I would no longer have antibodies though.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X20305012

30-08-2020 12:46AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Interesting new study of non hospitalised COVID carriers, ocular issues appear to be very common with almost 3/4 experiencing at least one ocular issue..the most common being burning sensation in the eyes which over 1/3 reported.

I found this pretty shocking because I posted a while ago about some reduced lung capacityI noticed after my sister arrived back from Lombardy with flu like illness in February,and that I wondered if I may have been an asymptomatic infection..my only symptoms apart fro the breathlessness (which has since completely passed) and burning red eyes. I would imagine if I were to get an antibody test that I would no longer have antibodies though.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X20305012

You've had it lad. You don't need anyone on here to tell you that...

bb1234567 · 30-08-2020 12:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You've had it lad. You don't need anyone on here to tell you that...

Yeh it seems like it really, that study kind of confirmed it in my mind! Just what is hard to believe about it though is that myself brother and sister all had some kind of symptoms and we are all under 25 while my parents who are in their mid fifties had no symptoms whatsoever. This virus certainly works in mysterious ways at times I;ll give it that

30-08-2020 12:57AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Yeh it seems like it really, that study kind of confirmed it in my mind! Just what is hard to believe about it though is that myself brother and sister all had some kind of symptoms and we are all under 25 while my parents who are in their mid fifties had no symptoms whatsoever

It truly is a strange virus from the stories I have heard... Good for your parents...Good story alround.

quartz1 · 30-08-2020 12:59AM

harr wrote: »

Why suddenly am I encountering so many people who are anti everthing even normal vaccines.. people who were never part of the tin foil hat group have suddenly started believing everything the local Karen posts on Facebook.. these are educated people and some work in health care.
People are really starting to believe a lot of on line content that is coming from questionable sources.
Even the more extreme conspiracy theories that most people would have laughed at 6 months are now filtering into everyday conversations.

I would ask exactually the same question.... I am finding myself wondering why do all the social media comments not reflect what I hear the people I meet day to day.

polesheep · 30-08-2020 01:24AM

s1ippy wrote: »

I have a friend who has been completely locked down since this started, a model citizen. He has to go back in to work this week coming and is not happy with the measures his workplace are taking, so his attitude has been "who gives a sh!t". Last week, when his suggestions to keep staff safe were shot down, he went straight out and did a pub crawl with the lads. He hasn't been home since. He's texting me to come to a party right now, there's about twelve of them at it having the craic.

His logic is that his workplace (where he is obliged to go) isn't safe, why the hell would he go out of his way and take pains to be protecting himself in his down time.

As I have said before, I so look forward to reading your biography. Every life and hue under the Sun is encapsulated in your friends and family.

stephenjmcd · 30-08-2020 01:33AM

polesheep wrote: »

As I have said before, I so look forward to reading your biography. Every life and hue under the Sun is encapsulated in your friends and family.

A story for absolutely everything, either the most popular or most unlucky person in the country whatever way you look at it.

Americans calling to the door, building site next door shut down, turning people away from the house, knowing an awful lot of people who've had it etc.

Plumbthedepths · 30-08-2020 01:33AM

s1ippy wrote: »

I have a friend who has been completely locked down since this started, a model citizen. He has to go back in to work this week coming and is not happy with the measures his workplace are taking, so his attitude has been "who gives a sh!t". Last week, when his suggestions to keep staff safe were shot down, he went straight out and did a pub crawl with the lads. He hasn't been home since. He's texting me to come to a party right now, there's about twelve of them at it having the craic.

His logic is that his workplace (where he is obliged to go) isn't safe, why the hell would he go out of his way and take pains to be protecting himself in his down time.

You do seem to have a very intimate experience with the virus. You have known so many victims from both here in Ireland and friends in France still suffering after effects. Btw how did your camping trip go?
Maybe I'm a cynic but I think you are on a wind up.

Plumbthedepths · 30-08-2020 01:36AM

polesheep wrote: »

As I have said before, I so look forward to reading your biography. Every life and hue under the Sun is encapsulated in your friends and family.

I was looking forward to reading the trials and tribulations of his socially distant camping weekend, I did search for the biopic but alas to no avail.

s1ippy · 30-08-2020 01:53AM

polesheep wrote: »

As I have said before, I so look forward to reading your biography. Every life and hue under the Sun is encapsulated in your friends and family.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

A story for absolutely everything, either the most popular or most unlucky person in the country whatever way you look at it.

Americans calling to the door, building site next door shut down, turning people away from the house, knowing an awful lot of people who've had it etc.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You do seem to have a very intimate experience with the virus. You have known so many victims from both here in Ireland and friends in France still suffering after effects. Btw how did your camping trip go?
Maybe I'm a cynic but I think you are on a wind up.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I was looking forward to reading the trials and tribulations of his socially distant camping weekend, I did search for the biopic but alas to no avail.

Camping was class, went to Kerry and stayed by the sea. Weird and a bit sad that you all find the fact that I know people unusual. Lockdown getting to you?

Not really any big mystery to knowing a lot of people, maybe there's an element of jealousy at play from ye. Go out and make friends shur, ye all seemingly have no worries about covid so it shouldn't be any bother.

At least ye all have each other.

Plumbthedepths · 30-08-2020 02:03AM

s1ippy wrote: »

Camping was class, went to Kerry and stayed by the sea. Weird and a bit sad that you all find the fact that I know people unusual. Lockdown getting to you?

Not really any big mystery to knowing a lot of people, maybe there's an element of jealousy at play from ye. Go out and make friends shur, ye all seemingly have no worries about covid so it shouldn't be any bother.

At least ye all have each other.

Not jealous at all, spent a week in Italy. Toured for a few days stayed with friends in Naples for the reminder of the holiday. I know alot of people too, work in a company with an onsite workforce of 300 but only know one person intimately who got the virus but made a full recovery and is back at work over a month now. Guess I'm very lucky, an outlier if you will .
Glad your needy family members were able to do without you for the few days. I value having a good memory, you should too.

Goldengirl · 30-08-2020 06:20AM

robbiezero wrote: »

I don't much like Leo, but I do think it was a real pity that we had to change Government right in the middle of the pandemic.

I think Leo and co were getting a feel for how much they could take advice from NPHET, but also bring the people with them with both a carrot and a stick approach.

That seems to be have been lost in the new Government. I think the restrictions on spectating on outdoor sport was a poor call. Yes it might have prevented a tiny amount of transmission of cases (debatable),
but from talking to people, I think it was a tipping point for a lot of people in terms of obeying and respecting restrictions and it will be hard to put that genie back in the box.
The example for me was GAA games in St Annes Park the weekend after the restrictions, there were bigger crowds out watching matches if anything, even people in their 80s - "Just out for a walk - within the guidelines" as one ould lad sarcastically observed.
Seen similar again today and the 15 person limit for training has just been roundly ignored.

Shhhh..we don't want to get into trouble

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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