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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #3122
    growleaves
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    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Considering that the following European countries UK, Belgium, Italy, Spain.have more deaths per million of population i am at a loss to understand the constant extreme criticism of Sweden.

    And what an extreme reversal of all the praise bestowed on Sweden since the 1960s, almost all of which was for being a picturesque well-behaved liberal society with just enough socialism in its mixed constitution to make other countries look like meanies by comparison.

    Wonder will the sulking against them become a permanent thing.


  • #3123
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Polar101


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I've read through the various mainstream media reporting of today's figures and not one of them have mentioned that we now have had no notified deaths from Covid in a week

    Absolutely disgraceful reporting.

    From the first article I checked, it's in the "sub-headline".
    NPHET reports no further deaths from Covid-19 for seventh day in a row

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-142-new-cases-in-republic-as-de-gascun-warns-second-lockdown-cannot-be-ruled-out-1.4342066


  • #3124
    growleaves
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Jesus Donald, apply more tan and breath into the bag.

    Lol


  • #3125
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Rolling week eg Sun to Sat with the last day of the previous week eg Sat. Totals for the previous rolling week included

    Nice one for always posting this.

    With clusters emerging in schools in the next few weeks I hope they put an "Education Worker" column right there beside Healthcare Worker.


  • #3126
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    What’s safer though, about 20 mins on a school bus or 1 hour minimum (for the shortest journeys) in a plane?

    You are assuming 20 mins based on your understanding / experience of school transport - many children travel 45mins to 1 hour on school transport and for those in special schools it could be an hour plus.


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  • #3127
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Polar101 wrote: »
    From the first article I checked, it's in the "sub-headline".



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-142-new-cases-in-republic-as-de-gascun-warns-second-lockdown-cannot-be-ruled-out-1.4342066

    Fair enough, but it should be a headline.
    When you google 'No a deaths in a week' a full story about that having happened up North a few weeks ago comes up


  • #3128
    Away With The Fairies
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    NH2013 wrote: »
    Aircraft have much more advanced air systems owing to the fact they have to be pressurised, the air on aircraft is changed and replaced every 3 minutes, and the air flows are verticle from ceiling to floor which reduces the possibility of spread forward and back.

    Buses and trains on the other hand don't have the same rate of air change, or the same designed flow of air from top to bottom to prevent spread.

    Airplanes still aren't safe though. They might be good with airchanges and all that. But if someone sat beside who was infected, well then you're fcuked because their germs has more of a chance of infecting you before the air changes.


  • #3129
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I've read through the various mainstream media reporting of today's figures and not one of them have mentioned that we now have had no notified deaths from Covid in a week

    Absolutely disgraceful reporting.

    Its the same around the world. They always lead with whatever is the worst number. Where I am we had a day with only a hundred and something new cases (it was 1000 a day a few weeks ago), which is a sign that things are maybe slowing down. Youd think the news would lead with the good news but it was all about the death numbers which were 14 that day because they are peaking now from the surge we had over the past 2 months.


  • #3130
    Boggles
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Its the same around the world. They always lead with whatever is the worst number. Where I am we had a day with only a hundred and something new cases (it was 1000 a day a few weeks ago), which is a sign that things are maybe slowing down. Youd think the news would lead with the good news but it was all about the deaths which was 14 that day because they are peaking now from the surge we had over the past 2 months.

    Why if 14 people tragically died would they lead with "good news"? :confused:


  • #3131
    Necro
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Lol, why would you think that's even a possibility? Has anywhere , even the hardest hit areas, degenerated into walking dead scenarios? Not that I'm aware of. I think you're letting anxiety get the better of you. A virus with a 99%+ survival rate really isn't an apocalyptic event.

    Well in fairness it was like that in Dublin long before Covid with the junkies :D

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



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  • #3132
    Polar101
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Fair enough, but it should be a headline.
    When you google 'No a deaths in a week' a full story about that having happened up North a few weeks ago comes up

    Hopefully tomorrow there'll be a headline "no deaths for the eighth day in a row".


  • #3133
    ceadaoin.
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Why if 14 people tragically died would they lead with "good news"? :confused:

    Deaths have been around that level for a couple of weeks, and they are down from the peak. When the daily new cases are higher than that record low, they lead with those. On the one day that things were looking positive, they didn't. Also, hospitalisations are steadily declining but they don't highlight that either.


  • #3134
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    A study on kids camps from the US, where they used a multi-faceted approach to managing COVID cases.
    During the 2020 summer camp season, four Maine overnight camps with 1,022 attendees from 41 states and international locations implemented a multilayered prevention and mitigation strategy that was successful in identifying and isolating three asymptomatic COVID-19 cases and preventing secondary transmission.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6935e1.htm?s_cid=mm6935e1_w


  • #3135
    Boggles
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Deaths have been around that level for a couple of weeks, and they are down from the peak.
    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Youd think the news would lead with the good news but it was all about the death numbers which were 14 that day because they are peaking now from the surge we had over the past 2 months.

    Which is it? :confused:

    What place are you talking about?


  • #3136
    BorneTobyWilde
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    If we were New Zealand we'd have shut it down fully two weeks ago. 3500 active cases now, this was down to couple hundred before we opened.


  • #3137
    smellyoldboot
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    Compared to the rest of Europe and especially compared to southern Europeans, the Scandinavians are a bunch of anti-social weirdos prone to social distancing as part of their day to day lives. Comparisons of those states to the likes of Italy and Spain is bizarre. They can only be compared to each other and maybe the Baltic States.


  • #3138
    Away With The Fairies
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Deaths have been around that level for a couple of weeks, and they are down from the peak. When the daily new cases are higher than that record low, they lead with those. On the one day that things were looking positive, they didn't. Also, hospitalisations are steadily declining but they don't highlight that either.

    But with more cases, there will be hospitalisations, so they can't say hospitalisations is declining when it will go up again. News like that will make people think we're doing fantastic and become complacent and we can't slack off on social distancing, face masks, hand washing.


  • #3139
    lee_baby_simms
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    I've read through the various mainstream media reporting of today's figures and not one of them have mentioned that we now have had no notified deaths from Covid in a week

    Absolutely disgraceful reporting.

    Where there’s tragedy, there’s trade.


  • #3140
    Van.Bosch
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Nobody cares about the new restrictions and we've 1 million kids back in school. Numbers are going to increase, increase rapidly would be my educated guess.

    What education have you got which qualifies you with this guess?


  • #3141
    SeaBreezes
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    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    What education have you got which qualifies you with this guess?

    I can just about read, and id also say back to school will rachet up infections, but then, im only going by what happened in other countries in the same situation....


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  • #3142
    wadacrack
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    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    Compared to the rest of Europe and especially compared to southern Europeans, the Scandinavians are a bunch of anti-social weirdos prone to social distancing as part of their day to day lives. Comparisons of those states to the likes of Italy and Spain is bizarre. They can only be compared to each other and maybe the Baltic States.

    Would stop making generalizations. Its not bizarre at all just highlights how different lifestyles may influence transmission.


  • #3143
    Away With The Fairies
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    I've read through the various mainstream media reporting of today's figures and not one of them have mentioned that we now have had no notified deaths from Covid in a week

    Absolutely disgraceful reporting.

    Do all deaths have to get reported?

    I'm confused, there was late deaths reported back in July and someone mentioned it was up to the families if they wanted to report it or not.

    So how can we say for sure if there was no deaths?


  • #3144
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    If we were New Zealand we'd have shut it down fully two weeks ago. 3500 active cases now, this was down to couple hundred before we opened.

    We are not reporting active cases. That number is incorrect. It is around 1700. Positive cases in last 2 weeks.


  • #3145
    Speak Now
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    If we were New Zealand we'd have shut it down fully two weeks ago. 3500 active cases now, this was down to couple hundred before we opened.

    3500 :) good one Toby :P


  • #3146
    GooglePlus
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    Local lockdown for Kildare not doing a whole lot except burning a hole in people's pockets.


  • #3147
    [Deleted User]
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    I've read through the various mainstream media reporting of today's figures and not one of them have mentioned that we now have had no notified deaths from Covid in a week

    Absolutely disgraceful reporting.

    Really?


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-142-new-cases-in-republic-as-de-gascun-warns-second-lockdown-cannot-be-ruled-out-1.4342066

    "This is the seventh day in a row there has been no additional coronavirus-related deaths reported."

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0829/1162028-coronavirus-ireland/

    "But, sounding a note of optimism, he added: "The fact we have gone seven days without a reported death and low hospitalisation should give cause for hope."


  • #3148
    odyssey06
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Local lockdown for Kildare not doing a whole lot except burning a hole in people's pockets.

    Dunno how you can say that... imagine what the cases would be without the lockdown.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3149
    Jim_Hodge
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    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Local lockdown for Kildare not doing a whole lot except burning a hole in people's pockets.

    Why. Did you set aside a sample group without restrictions so you could compare infection rates?


  • #3150
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    DubInMeath wrote: »

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0829/1162028-coronavirus-ireland/

    "But, sounding a note of optimism, he added: "The fact we have gone seven days without a reported death and low hospitalisation should give cause for hope."

    That wasn't there when I posted originally.

    Thank Feck for Leo, he's the only ruling politician that I have a higher opinion of now than before this began.


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  • #3151
    theballz
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    This thread is so full of negativity and constant belittling, it’s madness. People need to take a step back and stop getting so caught up in it all.

    Nothing in life is to be feared; it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less.

    If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude.


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