Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

Speak Now · 28-08-2020 06:50PM

This is crazy, 6 people or 6 visitors?

hmmm · 28-08-2020 06:50PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

It is 0.65% globally, and around 1% in European countries due to elderly populations. So you are incorrect

I'd guess 0.65% myself will be the final figure for Ireland, we have a relatively young population. But that's still massively more than the death rate from Flu.

Speak Now · 28-08-2020 06:51PM

Hijpo wrote: »

Is there a number I can call to alert the HSE to a person I know has flown into ireland from two different countries and did not quarantine. I know three individuals that they would have been in contact with.

Surely those contacts should be tested.

Contacts? Is this person a confirmed case?

Leftwaffe · 28-08-2020 06:51PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Our drinking culture is very different to the rest of Europe.

Ah come on now. This is the line being banded about by the masses to justify the ruination of thousands of small businesses.

There p**heads everywhere you go.

GooglePlus · 28-08-2020 06:52PM

Hijpo wrote: »

Is there a number I can call to alert the HSE to a person I know has flown into ireland from two different countries and did not quarantine. I know three individuals that they would have been in contact with.

Surely those contacts should be tested.

You'd be best just getting on with your life, we don't need cold war like KGB calls and every other person keeping a close eye on their neighbour.

I'd imagine the real reason for you wanting to out this person has nothing to do with Covid-19.

odyssey06 · 28-08-2020 06:53PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Donnelly is coming for you. Couldn't make this up.

He will be a busy man!

bb1234567 · 28-08-2020 06:53PM

ixoy wrote: »

Well we're not sure as it'll depend on how many people actually contracted it. Antibody studies here suggested the number of cases was actually far higher but because the criteria for testing was so stringent initially, we didn't catch a lot of them.

That is what thousands of scientists agreed upon at the WHO conference, I think we'll give the benefit of the doubt and say they are probably aware of the caveats and limitations you have mentioned and factored them into their estimate, they're not numb skulls

odyssey06 · 28-08-2020 06:53PM

hmmm wrote: »

I'd guess 0.65% myself will be the final figure for Ireland, we have a relatively young population. But that's still massively more than the death rate from Flu.

Plus how many other diseases include asymptomatics in their total case count?

GooglePlus · 28-08-2020 06:54PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Ah come on now. This is the line being banded about by the masses to justify the ruination of thousands of small businesses.

There p**heads everywhere you go.

Of course there are but as a people, especially in our early years, we tend to spend our social time in the pub. You don't see that near as much in other European countries.

pjohnson · 28-08-2020 06:54PM

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Ah come on now. This is the line being banded about by the masses to justify the ruination of thousands of small businesses.

There p**heads everywhere you go.

Well the house parties arent helping the small businesses by delaying any chance of opening them.

The "anti" crowd have ensured a self fulfilling prophecy of making sure restrictions remain/increase.

is_that_so · 28-08-2020 06:54PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Donnelly is coming for you. Couldn't make this up.

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1299403291936329729?s=19

It actually sounds like Donnelly pushing this, it's his personality. It's crossing a line TBH threatening people in their own homes. Whatever happened to we're all in this together or encouraging personal responsibility?

28-08-2020 06:55PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Not feeling much better today so rang my doctor, she had a very flippant attitude towards me Explained that I'm feeling very fatigued for the last 4 or 5 days and my throat is a bit tingly, but she instantly dismissed the possibility of coronavirus. I said I'm a bit anxious because I'd be working in a primary classroom from next weeks onwards, but she told me to "forgot about it" and just "follow the guidelines". Like I'll admit I know it's unlikely I have it, but I'd have thought maybe she'd be more open to referring me given where I'll be next week.

She's not in kells by any chance, last time I dealt with mine I was told it was nothing and ended up in hospital for a week with food poisoning.

Just ask her to confirm her opinion by email in case you need it for work

pjohnson · 28-08-2020 06:56PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It actually sounds like Donnelly pushing this, it's his personality. It's crossing a line TBH threatening people in their own homes. Whatever happened to we're all in this together or encouraging personal responsibility?

This is an absoulte foreign concept for some.

Hijpo · 28-08-2020 06:56PM

Speak Now wrote: »

Contacts? Is this person a confirmed case?

Not a confirmed case but flew from one non green list country, to another non green list country before making their way to meet with family here. The person did not quarantine.

Ficheall · 28-08-2020 06:58PM

hmmm wrote: »

I'd guess 0.65% myself will be the final figure for Ireland, we have a relatively young population. But that's still massively more than the death rate from Flu.

So you reckon we've had 130k cases so far as opposed to the 28k claimed?

stephenjmcd · 28-08-2020 06:58PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It actually sounds like Donnelly pushing this, it's his personality. It's crossing a line TBH threatening people in their own homes. Whatever happened to we're all in this together or encouraging personal responsibility?

Sweet fcuk all will happen. Its not a criminal matter so there'll be nothing done.

s1ippy · 28-08-2020 07:01PM

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Not feeling much better today so rang my doctor, she had a very flippant attitude towards me Explained that I'm feeling very fatigued for the last 4 or 5 days and my throat is a bit tingly, but she instantly dismissed the possibility of coronavirus. I said I'm a bit anxious because I'd be working in a primary classroom from next weeks onwards, but she told me to "forgot about it" and just "follow the guidelines". Like I'll admit I know it's unlikely I have it, but I'd have thought maybe she'd be more open to referring me given where I'll be next week.

"get this woman 5CCs of new GP, stat"

jackboy · 28-08-2020 07:02PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

It is 0.65% globally, and around 1% in European countries due to elderly populations. So you are incorrect

The death rate is not known. Could be a long time yet before we have a good estimate of that. With so many asymptomatic cases it is very difficult to assess.

Speak Now · 28-08-2020 07:03PM

Cops wouldn't enter a hotel with 81 noses in the trough but work away lads if the local KGB (busy body) suspect more than 6 in the neighbour's.

ixoy · 28-08-2020 07:04PM

Ficheall wrote: »

So you reckon we've had 130k cases so far as opposed to the 28k claimed?

59,000 estimated by mid-July - up to 3.5 times more cases in Dublin than initially reported. You can read the report here. It makes a good bit of sense whereas now we're catching a much higher percentage of cases most likely.

is_that_so · 28-08-2020 07:04PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sweet fcuk all will happen. Its not a criminal matter so there'll be nothing done.

Here's the IT summary on it. It's not exactly a voter friendly approach but will probably be welcomed by the 70% who have such a hardline attitude to anyone who gets COVID.

The Cabinet also agreed to ask the Attorney General to examine options for further regulating house parties.

Under the proposals discussed this afternoon, if approved, it will be an offence to organise or attend a gathering in a private house with more than six visitors either indoors or outdoors. This measure was introduced as a guideline last week.

Speak Now · 28-08-2020 07:05PM

Hijpo wrote: »

Not a confirmed case but flew from one non green list country, to another non green list country before making their way to meet with family here. The person did not quarantine.

They wont be testing their close contacts unless they're a confirmed case.

Hijpo · 28-08-2020 07:08PM

Speak Now wrote: »

They wont be testing their close contacts unless they're a confirmed case.

Lovely, and they only confirm the case after they spread it within a family.

Eod100 · 28-08-2020 07:08PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I guess it's safe to say there will be no possibility of any 12 Pubs Of Christmas sessions going this year.

Never was tbh! Groups of people going from pub to pub probably one of worst things from virus spread pov. 12 substantial meals just doesn't have the same ring to it!

stephenjmcd · 28-08-2020 07:08PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Here's the IT summary on it. It's not exactly a voter friendly approach but will probably be welcomed by the 70% who have such a hardline attitude to anyone who gets COVID.

Yeah not going to happen. Its been said this evening it'll be a civil matter.

Regardless wont be a Garda issue and Gardai won't be able to take action.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1299402219901591552?s=19

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1299403291936329729?s=19

bb1234567 · 28-08-2020 07:10PM

jackboy wrote: »

The death rate is not known. Could be a long time yet before we have a good estimate of that. With so many asymptomatic cases it is very difficult to assess.

It's difficult yes but of course by now mountains of research available from across the world that certainly give strong indications of what ballpark it lies within. Anyway as I said this is what 1200 scientisits agreed on,it's the closest there is to a definitive IFR so it's ridicukous to have posters saying 'I think it's 0.2%' every.single.day as if there is any validity or justification for their belief when they're either trolling or too lazy and ignorant to look up any research about the subject

lee_baby_simms · 28-08-2020 07:14PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

It's difficult yes but of course by now mountains of research available from across the world that certainly give strong indications of what ballpark it lies within.

No, it’s not difficult. It’s impossible. The overwhelming number of asymptomatic cases means we’ll never know the true IFR.

Anyone throwing around numbers is purely speculating to support an argument.

Ficheall · 28-08-2020 07:16PM

ixoy wrote: »

59,000 estimated by mid-July - up to 3.5 times more cases in Dublin than initially reported. You can read the report here. It makes a good bit of sense whereas now we're catching a much higher percentage of cases most likely.

I'm not disputing that we under-reported. I'm saying that based on excess deaths of 850 so far, a 0.65% fatality rate would mean we've had 130k cases. Meaning that we missed 100k of them, and about 1 in 35 people in the country have had it. I'm not saying that's impossible - just that that's what a fatality rate of 0.65%, which people seem to be backing, would suggest.

podgeandrodge · 28-08-2020 07:21PM

So Leo now saying that he can't be sure wet pubs will open at all this year? WTF. What's the position if we continue to have loads of cases and no deaths, will they still cocoon us from our lives to prevent a sneeze?

KrustyUCC · 28-08-2020 07:28PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Our drinking culture is very different to the rest of Europe.

Have you lived elsewhere in Europe?

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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