2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Professor Moriarty · 28-08-2020 09:57AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

every time he gives a speech behind a lecturn he holds on to it for dear life.

And looks extremely dodgy going down a stairs.

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 10:17AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Post pics or it didn't happen.

a link to them was posted yesterday. all fine enough if you like women with bolted on plastic breasts. post #4064 if you are interested.

Injuryprone · 28-08-2020 10:19AM

Gruffalox wrote: »

The people on the streets rioting in America at the moment are violent anti-intellectual low lifes. They have no class. They are hysterical and criminal fools. Defacing public property. Invading shops. Forcing people via mob rule to raise their fists to support "BLM". Pillaging and looting under the guise of a "rights" movement.

Care to explain how re-electing DT is going to improve things.

Professor Moriarty · 28-08-2020 10:20AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a link to them was posted yesterday. all fine enough if you like women with bolted on plastic breasts.

Well, if you like wearing plastic hair, then that would make perfect sense.

Gerry Hatrick · 28-08-2020 10:21AM

Gruffalox wrote: »

Oh I see. That is the level I am dealing with.

For what it is worth Melania is gorgeous, and seems sweet. She generally looks fantastic. She has come in for constant marauding by the left leaning side of things for everything from her clothes, past nudes (priestly horror again), her Christmas decorations to her Rose Garden renovations. As someone who would never vote for someone like Trump - or Biden either, shudders!!- I have thought Melania has great taste and an aesthetic eye and did a grand old job on the previously kitschy rose garden. The persistent deranged mauling of her has been revealing.

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 10:23AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

She pedaled birther conspiracies about Obama. Do you have any opinion on that?

Professor Moriarty · 28-08-2020 10:23AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

So lefties only like stupid and ugly women? Okay.

Biker79 · 28-08-2020 10:37AM

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 10:43AM

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

if by traditional femininity you mean she is expected to put up with her husband barebacking a porn star a few weeks after giving birth then you are probably right.

and trump sure is the definition of traditional masculinity. he uses more makeup than Ru Paul.

Tigerbaby · 28-08-2020 10:45AM

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

jamule · 28-08-2020 10:48AM

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

completly agree, I must be leftits commie though , I am not fat, old and doddery and can talk properly (sometimes).
Not sure where stripper fits in with trad femininity though

As an ould trad masculine man says, grab them by the pussy!

28-08-2020 10:50AM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

She helped push a birther conspiracy about the president. Aren't you one of the people who previously said they weren't a Trump supporter? Strangely coming across as one.

Carfacemandog · 28-08-2020 10:52AM

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

The protests and riots are not only the largest in American history, they have the support of the public across almost every demographic. Just because his base hate the idea of protesting on an issue like this, whether it be peaceful or otherwise (and the reactions to Colin Kaepernick in the NFL and now the NBA boycotts shows up the lie that they would be ok with peaceful protest), it doesn't do anything to change that.

If Trump thinks his efforts to emulate China's response to the Hong Kong protests, he is in for a rude awakening. It appears those around him have long since copped on to this too, hence their efforts to dismantle the postal services ability to sort and deliver mail in ballots instead.

ELM327 · 28-08-2020 10:54AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if by traditional femininity you mean she is expected to put up with her husband barebacking a porn star a few weeks after giving birth then you are probably right.

and trump sure is the definition of traditional masculinity. he uses more makeup than Ru Paul.

Your photo is photoshopped.
Compare the dimensions to the dimensions in the below real photo from the independent.

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Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 10:56AM

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

Traditional masculinity?

How many men do you know that are so vain they plaster on fake tan every day?

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 10:57AM

So Trump told so many lies last night but the crazy thing is he just tells provable lies based on simple fact checking.

He claimed the USA was energy independent and not reliant on foreign energy sources. In reality the US imports vast amounts of crude oil from overseas at an average of 188 million barrels of oil per month in 2020 so far. While it is correct that domestic production has increased significantly and US oil exports have increased, this started under Obama and Trump has continued that increase in domestic production. So while there is less reliance on foreign oil the US remains a net oil importer.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrimus1&f=m

He also claimed (again) credit for the Veterans Choice Act. This was actually enacted by Obama in 2014. Here's a picture of Obama signing it into law in 2014 form the White House archive with the caption:

President Barack Obama signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans' Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014, at Fort Belvoir, Va., Aug. 7, 2014. The bill provides the Department of Veterans Affairs the resources to improve access and quality of care for veterans. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

Tell me how · 28-08-2020 10:57AM

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The more that I see the BLM (Burn, Loot and Murder) protests going on, the greater chance exists that President Trump will be re-elected.

Don't the Democrats not realise that BLM is the greatest weapon in Trump's armoury right now?

Or simply is it now a monster they can no longer control?

Cogent thoughts and debate please.

Did you miss the 4200 posts when you rocked in here to instigate a debate?

Trump could have used BLM to greatly help his chances in November, he could have acknowledged the pain suffered by the Black community, he could have appointed a high profile team with Kanye front and centre to look in to ways to overcome this, and he could have used this group to talk about what he was going to do if they returned him and he could have made sure they would not report back for at least 12 months and then pointed to this as his efforts to fix the problem.

I'm glad he showed his true colours (and his incapacity to think politically) in not doing this because it has would have been entirely disingenuous.

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 10:58AM

ELM327 wrote: »

Your photo is photoshopped.
Compare the dimensions to the dimensions in the below real photo from the independent.

PS or not he is still a fat tub of lard who struggles to walk down a ramp and who wears more makeup than a drag queen. how is that traditional masculinity?

ELM327 · 28-08-2020 10:59AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

So Trump told so many lies last night but the crazy thing is he just tells provable lies based on simple fact checking.

He claimed the USA was energy independent and not reliant on foreign energy sources. In reality the US imports vast amounts of crude oil from overseas at an average of 188 million barrels of oil per month in 2020 so far. While it is correct that domestic production has increased significantly and US oil exports have increased, this started under Obama and Trump has continued that increase in domestic production. So while there is less reliance on foreign oil the US remains a net oil importer.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrimus1&f=m

He also claimed (again) credit for the Veterans Choice Act. This was actually enacted by Obama in 2014. Here's a picture of Obama signing it into law in 2014 form the White House archive with the caption:

President Barack Obama signs H.R. 3230, the Veterans' Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014, at Fort Belvoir, Va., Aug. 7, 2014. The bill provides the Department of Veterans Affairs the resources to improve access and quality of care for veterans. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

I think the confusion is the US is a net exporter of petroleum products (eg Gasoline/petrol) but a net importer by 2m barrels of raw crude

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42735

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 11:00AM

Biker79 wrote: »

They despise her because she represents traditional femininity.

They despise Trump because he represents traditional masculinity.

They have already made it clear they regard gender as a social construct. They feel it is whatever people choose it to be, rather than a biological reality ( unless of course you're a beautiful woman or a dominant male ..they don't get the same parity of esteem ).

If we were to see into the future from a vantage point of 2005, nobody would believe the nonsense lefties have come up with. But here we are.

The fake tan and makeup screams traditional masculinity alright.

The knots you Trumpists tie yourselves in must be absolutely exhausting.

ELM327 · 28-08-2020 11:00AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

PS or not he is still a fat tub of lard who struggles to walk down a ramp and who wears more makeup than a drag queen. how is that traditional masculinity?

So you can insult trumps physical appearance, but anyone daring to criticize Michelle Obama in the same way or use Joe's nickname gets banned?

#leftism

namloc1980 · 28-08-2020 11:02AM

ELM327 wrote: »

I think the confusion is the US is a net exporter of petroleum products (eg Gasoline/petrol) but a net importer by 2m barrels of raw crude

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=42735

Trump claims energy independence to rile up the base. It's at best a misleading claim designed to lead people to an inaccurate conclusion.

Tigerbaby · 28-08-2020 11:02AM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

The protests and riots are not only the largest in American history, they have the support of the public across almost every demographic. Just because his base hate the idea of protesting on an issue like this, whether it be peaceful or otherwise (and the reactions to Colin Kaepernick in the NFL and now the NBA boycotts shows up the lie that they would be ok with peaceful protest), it doesn't do anything to change that.

If Trump thinks his efforts to emulate China's response to the Hong Kong protests, he is in for a rude awakening. It appears those around him have long since copped on to this too, hence their efforts to dismantle the postal services ability to sort and deliver mail in ballots instead.

Why would his base hate peaceful protest that promulgate equal rights? This is a nonsensical statement. Trump supporters and Republicans in general are avowed to upholding the Constitution.

How can you make the incredible jump in comparing China's virtual annexation of Hong Kong's legal system to Trump sending in Federal support to maintain Law and Order? Trump only ordered this after Democrat Mayors abrogated their responsibilties and duties.

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 11:03AM

ELM327 wrote: »

So you can insult trumps physical appearance, but anyone daring to criticize Michelle Obama in the same way or use Joe's nickname gets banned?

#leftism

i was responding to one of your fellow travelers who described him as traditionally masculine. do you think he is traditionally masculine? is it traditionally masculine to wear more makeup than a drag queen?

Polar101 · 28-08-2020 11:04AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Easily impressed aren't we. Basically Trump's & the RNC message was: things are really terrible in many parts of the country and I couldn't do anything to solve those problems in the last 4 years but give me 4 more years anyway because none of the problems are my fault.

If he gave a truthful account of his term, not many people would vote for him. So it makes more sense to pretend to run as a new candidate who will fix the mess (created by him).

Gruffalux · 28-08-2020 11:05AM

Injuryprone wrote: »

Care to explain how re-electing DT is going to improve things.

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

ELM327 · 28-08-2020 11:08AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i was responding to one of your fellow travelers who described him as traditionally masculine. do you think he is traditionally masculine? is it traditionally masculine to wear more makeup than a drag queen?

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

ohnonotgmail · 28-08-2020 11:10AM

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

so you think wearing makeup is traditionally masculine? is there any depth to which you wont sink in order to defend trump?

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 11:12AM

Gruffalox wrote: »

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

Aren't all these things happening right now? On Trumps watch?

Timberrrrrrrr · 28-08-2020 11:14AM

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

Really? Take a walk down the street, how many elderly/retired male Builders, Mechanics, Soldiers, office workers, Retail workers, Police/fire/paramedics will you see wearing thick make up while going about thier business?

Face it, Tan in a can man is vain and not very "masculine" at all.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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