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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #2072
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,306 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is next refresh of the green list for travel the 4th September? Updates every 2 weeks as far as I know so that should be tomorrow week.
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/8868e-view-the-covid-19-travel-advice-list/


  • #2073
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Stick with the trends of 5,7 and 14 day average. The daily totals will bring on anxiety. Even so, we can talk about these numbers with far less alarm than way back in March.

    Can we? I have a very bad grasp of numbers and statistics. Is less alarm needed because the numbers are less or for a different reason?


  • #2074
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    .they were moving the tables on quick enough and plenty of cleaning going on.
    Good to hear. That's the point of the time restrictions - even if someone in the pub has the virus (customer or staff), there is less risk of you picking it up because the length of time you are exposed does seem to have a big impact.


  • #2075
    ACitizenErased
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can we? I have a very bad grasp of numbers and statistics. Is less alarm needed because the numbers are less or for a different reason?
    We're testing at record levels. Many asymptomatic cases being picked up.


  • #2076
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    What is general consensus on what proportion case numbers identified are of total cases out there (incl. unidentified) - is it likely that our cases are only a fraction of that in the population at large due to asymptomatic cases never seeing the light of day, which might explain low hospitalisations or are we catching most?

    Masks. I'm not a fan, but wearing them as and where mandated. But I've seen a huge increase in people wearing them around their chins when not in the shop etc. Like half of everyone I see it seems. Is this not more dangerous in general than not wearing one - are people likely to infect themselves in the long run with the amount of fidgeting on and off of masks?


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  • #2077
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,225 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's been and gone - 93 beers!

    93 from him for today so?
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  • #2078
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Can we? I have a very bad grasp of numbers and statistics. Is less alarm needed because the numbers are less or for a different reason?
    Well, the averages don't swing about as much as daily figures. Hospital numbers are still very good. The number of positive results is between 1% and 2% even with lots of testing. Think of the testing as weeding out cases.


  • #2079
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    93 from him for today so?
    I believe so.


  • #2080
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Longing


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    It took over 200 years from Jenner hoping that their vaccine would eradicate smallpox to its actual eradication.
    While a vaccine for covid would help us return to what we were used to, you have plenty of people who won't take it because of some person on the internet told them some ****e about it being used to track them etc. Look at the resistance to masks and the theories some post on here also. So no it's likely it will not be eradicated, even if the vaccine developed was such that it would be possible.


    Just like polio we will have it in Ireland forever.


  • #2081
    Oranage2
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure how you stop international travel as a member of the European Union, I'd love to hear your plan.

    Not much of an idea man are you?

    Have a 2 week quarantine for incoming passengers maybe a facility in city west.

    Not sure about the north, there are many solutions none perfect however.


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  • #2082
    [Deleted User]
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    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    What is general consensus on what proportion case numbers identified are of total cases out there (incl. unidentified) - is it likely that our cases are only a fraction of that in the population at large due to asymptomatic cases never seeing the light of day, which might explain low hospitalisations or are we catching most?

    Masks. I'm not a fan, but wearing them as and where mandated. But I've seen a huge increase in people wearing them around their chins when not in the shop etc. Like half of everyone I see it seems. Is this not more dangerous in general than not wearing one - are people likely to infect themselves in the long run with the amount of fidgeting on and off of masks?

    It must be that we are catching alot more. Given so many people that have no symptoms and lack of people in icu. Maybe we are catching half of them at a guess.


  • #2083
    ACitizenErased
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Not much of an idea man are you?

    Have a 2 week quarantine for incoming passengers maybe a facility in city west.

    Not sure about the north, there are many solutions none perfect however.
    Nearly 100,000 passengers came through our airports alone in June. I'd love to see how you fit them into the City West.


  • #2084
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Not much of an idea man are you?

    Have a 2 week quarantine for incoming passengers maybe a facility in city west.

    Not sure about the north, there are many solutions none perfect however.

    Is there a need for the first line, you are the one suggesting 0 covid is possible in Ireland. It's not, so many solutions for the North that you can't even suggest one.


  • #2085
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He's been and gone - 93 beers!
    We didn't hear yet where the beers were bought though - are many from a Dublin brewery? Normally popular enough along with some new producers in Kildare and Tipperary.


  • #2086
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Not much of an idea man are you?

    Have a 2 week quarantine for incoming passengers maybe a facility in city west.

    That's not even possible.


  • #2087
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ixoy wrote: »
    We didn't hear yet where the beers were bought though - are many from a Dublin brewery? Normally popular enough along with some new producers in Kildare and Tipperary.
    Not clear, but as someone pointed the orders can be adjusted during the day.


  • #2088
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    Widdensushi wrote: »
    Is there a need for the first line, you are the one suggesting 0 covid is possible in Ireland. It's not, so many solutions for the North that you can't even suggest one.

    Europe could have zero covid policy in time. Test everyone not from EU and tell them to restrict their movements for 14 days. Anybody flouting rules given fine/deported. That is many months away.


  • #2089
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,225 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Is there an outbreak cluster in a Dublin hospital from a front line health care worker, sorry just heard part of a radio news report so could be wrong
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  • #2090
    mloc123
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is there an outbreak cluster in a Dublin hospital from a front line health care worker, sorry just heard part of a radio news report so could be wrong

    It is a nursing home I think? The worker hid their positive test...


  • #2091
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is there an outbreak cluster in a Dublin hospital from a front line health care worker, sorry just heard part of a radio news report so could be wrong

    In a care home I heard


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  • #2092
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,306 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    mloc123 wrote: »
    It is a nursing home I think? The worker hid their positive test...


    What a great worker to have in this country, jaysus.


  • #2093
    igCorcaigh
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    Is there supposed to be a press briefing?


  • #2094
    billybonkers
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Is there supposed to be a press briefing?

    YEah its always delayed


  • #2095
    ninebeanrows
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    The way this country is stigmstising Covid it should be no surprise people would hide their test result, especially if didnt follow the advice to letter of law


  • #2096
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    The way this country is stigmstising Covid it should be no surprise people would hide their test result, especially if didnt follow the advice to letter of law

    Apparently the care worker got a text during her shift that she was positive
    She let no one know and finished her shift and only when asked to do overtime did she admit to being positive . Her husband worked in a meat factory


  • #2097
    Atlantic Dawn
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    GDY151


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    The way this country is stigmstising Covid it should be no surprise people would hide their test result, especially if didnt follow the advice to letter of law


    The government should also make it illegal for an insurance company to ask someone if they have ever had Covid 19 or a test for it.


  • #2098
    Widdensushi
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    The government should also make it illegal for an insurance company to ask someone if they have ever had Covid 19 or a test for it.

    Transparency is what is needed, not more gdpr etc


  • #2099
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Apparently the care worker got a text during her shift that she was positive
    She let no one know and finished her shift and only when asked to do overtime did she admit to being positive . Her husband worked in a meat factory

    When asked to do overtime she said she had been notified as a close contact, not that she has tested positive


  • #2100
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,225 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    mloc123 wrote: »
    It is a nursing home I think? The worker hid their positive test...
    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    What a great worker to have in this country, jaysus.

    Surely that is dismissal behaviour
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #2101
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    The way this country is stigmstising Covid it should be no surprise people would hide their test result, especially if didnt follow the advice to letter of law

    Covid is not being stigmatised. That worker behaved wrecklessly. Her son had a positive result and she was identified as a close contact. I presume contact tracers asked her to isolate herself. She continued to go to work putting others at risk. It's not the covid positive test result people are mad about. It's her actions of putting others at risk. Also she's working in a setting of a care home where residents would be vulnerable. I would also think staff would be somewhat vulnerable too due to the close nature of the work involved. Also there was a prime time episode about the care homes and they did not have enough PPE equipment. That was during the peak. I don't know if that has changed now. She put others at risk.


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