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Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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  • #2042
    ACitizenErased
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    Longing wrote: »
    Why is it a fairytale.


    It can be eradicated just like smallpox. But I agree lockdown is not the way.
    SARS-COVI-2 is never going away, people need to realise that. Vaccine doesn't make the virus disappear.


  • #2043
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    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    You're hoping for a lockdown? Seriously? No matter what your feelings are regarding the direction of case numbers, why would anybody hope for a lockdown? At best it would be viewed an an unfortunate but understandable necessity in a worse case scenario that you hope could be avoided.

    Can't say I'm hoping for a lockdown, but I am hoping this thing seriously deminishes in terms of its risk of people getting sick and of us then getting back to normal that feels safe. I'm not sure if governments/media have overly attempted to frighten the nation that this is a big deal. Clearly it is when you see pubs boarded up, people recommended not to travel at all and care free living of old is gone at present. Maybe it is the pictures of full hospitals/Icus back in march/April that still has some people in shock.

    Christmas has been on my mind of late. Always looked forward to it from about November onwards. What kind of Christmas will we have or will ireland/europe have gotten control by then. Not sure at all, two weeks into the future seems uncertain at the moment never mind Christmas. This threat to us all will end some day that I am sure. We all have to hang in there.


  • #2044
    drunkmonkey
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    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1298989531748679680?s=20

    Sippin pints in there 3 weeks ago...they were moving the tables on quick enough and plenty of cleaning going on. Hope it's not the manager sound chap..


  • #2045
    Longing
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    SARS-COVI-2 is never going away, people need to realise that. Vaccine doesn't make the virus disappear.


    Rubbish! You are talking there will be no advancement in medicine in years to come. You cannot say 100% it will not be eradicated. You don't know.


  • #2046
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Another paper on the gender difference in responses to COVID-19.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2700-3


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  • #2047
    Oranage2
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    New Zealand proved that it isn't possible, period. Gets in one way or another.

    New Zealand have 8 cases a day, we could only dream about those figures.

    Their lives have been back to normal for the past 3-4 months. We've had restrictions for nearly 7 months.

    Actual zero cases for a sustained time is probably impossible, keeping very low is possible with the right tools.


  • #2048
    Happydays2020
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Can't say I'm hoping for a lockdown, but I am hoping this thing seriously deminishes in terms of its risk of people getting sick and of us then getting back to normal that feels safe. I'm not sure if governments/media have overly attempted to frighten the nation that this is a big deal. Clearly it is when you see pubs boarded up, people recommended not to travel at all and care free living of old is gone at present. Maybe it is the pictures of full hospitals/Icus back in march/April that still has some people in shock.

    Christmas has been on my mind of late. Always looked forward to it from about November onwards. What kind of Christmas will we have or will ireland/europe have gotten control by then. Not sure at all, two weeks into the future seems uncertain at the moment never mind Christmas. This threat to us all will end some day that I am sure. We all have to hang in there.

    It will be a different Christmas. Will be more low key but we will manage. And to be fair, most of us have our dinners at home anyway. It will be really tough for people who work outside Ireland and will not make it home but I think people will adapt.


  • #2049
    is_that_so
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    Longing wrote: »
    Rubbish! You are talking there will be no advancement in medicine in years to come. You cannot say 100% it will not be eradicated. You don't know.
    Shouting rubbish doesn't make it so. Smallpox eradication is an outlier. We hope it will have a companion in polio but we are not there yet on that.


  • #2050
    mloc123
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    New Zealand have 8 cases a day, we could only dream about those figures.

    Didn't we have a few weeks of those numbers here?


  • #2051
    billybonkers
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    Slatterys in Dublin 4 also closed due to staff testing positive


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  • #2052
    ACitizenErased
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    Longing wrote: »
    Rubbish! You are talking there will be no advancement in medicine in years to come. You cannot say 100% it will not be eradicated. You don't know.
    Medicine doesn't make something disappear, believe it or not


  • #2053
    ixoy
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Their lives have been back to normal for the past 3-4 months. We've had restrictions for nearly 7 months.
    Not so much in Auckland right now.


  • #2054
    Away With The Fairies
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    Always_Running wrote: »
    HSE CEO Paul Reid says serial testing in Direct Provision centres will begin this weekend. Why wasn't that done weeks ago?

    Because they like to put things off.


  • #2055
    ACitizenErased
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    New Zealand have 8 cases a day, we could only dream about those figures.

    Their lives have been back to normal for the past 3-4 months. We've had restrictions for nearly 7 months.

    Actual zero cases for a sustained time is probably impossible, keeping very low is possible with the right tools.
    Not sure how you stop international travel as a member of the European Union, I'd love to hear your plan.


  • #2056
    is_that_so
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    New Zealand have 8 cases a day, we could only dream about those figures.

    Their lives have been back to normal for the past 3-4 months. We've had restrictions for nearly 7 months.

    Actual zero cases for a sustained time is probably impossible, keeping very low is possible with the right tools.
    If you are a very isolated country with low population density. Just for comparison they have 4m visitors and we are at about 10m. Dublin Airport has 10 times their total in passenger movements.


  • #2057
    mean gene
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    SARS-COVI-2 is never going away, people need to realise that. Vaccine doesn't make the virus disappear.

    Stops you getting it though isn't that the plan


  • #2058
    Longing
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Shouting rubbish doesn't make it so. Smallpox eradication is an outlier. We hope it will have a companion in polio but we are not there yet on that.


    No one shouting. Smallpox just example has is polio here in Ireland. Nobody knows the future so yea accusations that it will never be gone is fairytale talk.


  • #2059
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Because they like to put things off.

    Paul was on his holidays in lovely leitrim and he took his eye off the wheel.


  • #2060
    is_that_so
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    Always_Running wrote: »
    HSE CEO Paul Reid says serial testing in Direct Provision centres will begin this weekend. Why wasn't that done weeks ago?
    I guess he didn't get your memo, weeks ago!


  • #2061
    yerwanthere123
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    fits wrote: »
    Unlikely you’d get referred for testing without any of the stated symptoms.
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Family member referred on Monday evening, tested Wednesday morning. Currently waiting on result.
    antodeco wrote: »
    Colleague if mine was waiting 7 days to get tested (Dublin City Centre based) and results 3 days later
    seamus wrote: »
    Current typical time from referral to appointment is 24 hours.

    Typical time from swab to result is 28-31 hours.

    Call your GP today, you should have a test tomorrow. You should have a result then before Monday.

    Tiredness might not be enough though. If you're not feeling achey or have any other symptoms you'll be told to go to bed.
    GooglePlus wrote: »
    They would definitely be referred, if they want to. I can't see many GPs refusing a test referral to someone about to place themselves in a school environment and starting to feel run down.

    Stress can take it out of you, it might be back of the mind thoughts taking their toll either. It wouldn't be unusual for me to become deflated heading back to work after a lot of time off.

    Thanks everyone. Have just come off the back of a hard month working in a hotel where I was working 6 days a week. Lots of physical work involved, coupled with split shifts and sleep deprivation. However this is something I'm very used to, and Sunday was my last day as I'm starting the new school job next week. Wouldn't be uncommon for me to feel a bit run down, but it is unusual feeling like this after 4 days off and getting 7.5/8 hours sleep a night. Think I might see how I feel tomorrow, and if not any better then call my doctor? Obviously wouldn't be sensible going into a class of 31 7 year-old's if even a little unsure.

    Of course this could just as well be a regular cold/bug, but given the circumstances difficult not to be even a little paranoid :)


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  • #2062
    GooglePlus
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    mean gene wrote: »
    Stops you getting it though isn't that the plan

    Antibody response will, while T cell response reduces the viral load and progression. Suppose it'll depend on the vaccine.


  • #2063
    Happydays2020
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    billybonkers wrote: »
    Slatterys in Dublin 4 also closed due to staff testing positive

    This should happen. Better than a lockdown and ensures vigilance.


  • #2064
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Longing wrote: »
    No one shouting. Smallpox just example has is polio here in Ireland. Nobody knows the future so yea accusations that it will never be gone is fairytale talk.
    Smallpox took 200 years and polio has been a target since the 1930s and there are vaccines for both. So far you haven't presented a cogent argument of any kind to show that it will go away. Mostly you've been upbraiding other posters for daring to suggest it will never go away.


  • #2065
    eigrod
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    https://twitter.com/juneshannon/status/1299014403082387456?s=21


  • #2066
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    Longing wrote: »
    Rubbish! You are talking there will be no advancement in medicine in years to come. You cannot say 100% it will not be eradicated. You don't know.

    It took over 200 years from Jenner hoping that their vaccine would eradicate smallpox to its actual eradication.
    While a vaccine for covid would help us return to what we were used to, you have plenty of people who won't take it because of some person on the internet told them some ****e about it being used to track them etc. Look at the resistance to masks and the theories some post on here also. So no it's likely it will not be eradicated, even if the vaccine developed was such that it would be possible.


  • #2067
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I get the same anxiety about it but I'm hoping for a lockdown. That dead right poster is a God sent, once I see the numbers I can relax for the day whether high or low, the waiting all day was a killer for me.

    Why are you hoping for a lockdown?

    I'm getting too fixated on the numbers but again with the mental acrobatics I will spin them in a way that helps me cope.

    Truth is I think we are in a very precarious position and I'm struggling to balance living my life with keeping safe. Sometimes I lean towards safety and sometimes I don't. It's hard. I also don't actually believe it is weakening :(


  • #2068
    is_that_so
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why are you hoping for a lockdown?

    I'm getting too fixated on the numbers but again with the mental acrobatics I will spin them in a way that helps me cope.

    Truth is I think we are in a very precarious position and I'm struggling to balance living my life with keeping safe. Sometimes I lean towards safety and sometimes I don't. It's hard. I also don't actually believe it is weakening :(
    Stick with the trends of 5,7 and 14 day averages. The daily totals will bring on anxiety. Even so, we can talk about these current numbers with far less alarm than way back in March.


  • #2069
    billybonkers
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    Where is the poster with the early numbers for us today?


  • #2070
    ACitizenErased
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    mean gene wrote: »
    Stops you getting it though isn't that the plan
    Vaccine doesn't stop infection - it stops disease.


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  • #2071
    is_that_so
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    billybonkers wrote: »
    Where is the poster with the early numbers for us today?
    He's been and gone - 93 beers!


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