Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

spookwoman wrote: »

wtf I just said you are not always right, which is correct. What do you want a gold star for releasing some numbers early :rolleyes:

I'd rather have correct data late than incorrect data early.

Seeing as they’re the only poster on here with an actual source to the numbers and is willing to share that info, I’d say gold star is well warranted!

Sconsey wrote: »

Where was she when I was being forced to wear a school uniform?

Wearing a uniform doesn't usually involve wearing a mask, does it? :rolleyes:

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

The IFR rates from Spain from the last few months vs the first few months of the pandemic are very encouraging and certainly indicate a change in the virus.

The genetics don't support this.

If your idea was right then the ongoing genome sequencing should show that a new version of the virus emerged in Spain in recent months and then displaced the older versions. This hasn't happened.

Also, the same low numbers of hospital admissions have been seen across Europe. If a genetic change in the virus was the cause, then the new version of the virus would have had to spread out from its origin across the whole of Europe.
Whereas in fact, due to travel restrictions between countries, each country has its own distinct set of virus variants that were seeded before the lockdowns, and they've all been evolving slowly along within countries, picking up the odd mutation here or there, but with no big population shifts and no major influx from other countries.

There's also no reason to think that a less pathogenic version of the virus would have the selective advantage needed to outcompete the existing versions.

Here's the latest analysis of the evolving viral family tree from nextstrain.org, looking at Europe from 6 mins in:

owlbethere wrote: »

I would be somewhat in favour of masks in indoor settings where social distancing is hard to maintain but this seems to be very steep. Like how are masks in schools going to work? Is there still a storage of the surgical masks? Do they have to be left for the medical professionals? Fabric masks are not going to work in schools and in a typical school day. A student will need to have at least 3 masks per day to change for eg after morning break and after lunch. Washing and drying them for the next day won't be possible like with Irish weather. So students will need at least 6 fabric masks in circulation and 6 would be on the low side because of school public transport in the morning and in the evening. They might want to go to the shop after school too so that's another mask. The storing and treating of masks will also have to come into play. They will have to be stored in zip lock bags and a bag for each mask and maybe have another bag for used masks. My god. It's going to be a pack of **** all around for the students, teachers and parents who have to wash laundry too.

People with serious underlying conditions (e.g. cystic fibrosis) can buy surgical masks at pharmacies for the times when they have to go outside their home areas.

lukas8888 wrote: »

Phil hogan resigning

About time, his lies were getting worse

political analyst wrote: »

Are you denying that the constitutional right of bodily integrity exists? Cora Sherlock is a solicitor, you know. Therefore, she knows the law and the Constitution better than you or I do.

By the way, read this!

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/irish_constitution_1/constitution_fundamental_rights.html#:~:text=Bodily%20integrity,health%20endangered%20while%20in%20prison.

Very interesting take. So I'd feel handcuffs are more a risk of bodily integrity, does that mean prisoners constitutional rights are being infringed?

Or school kids having to wear a tie... I don't know, it's alot like a noose. Could be dangerous, especially combined with jumping on a trampoline.

It's a face mask, not a bloody straight jacket.
I still don't get the resistance from people about face coverings. Now if you were a nudist and you felt being naked as the day you were born is how you should be, that's a little more understandable.

Cora Sherlock lol

Santy2015 wrote: »

I’d like to know if you know in advance of any easing or strengthening of restrictions like you do the case numbers????

To be fair that could cause panic for people and not something I'd like to be having guess work at

,iv no problem giving numbers that I hear but I don't want to cause anyone panic, Don't forget lockdown can have terrible effects on the elderly and in no way would I want to contribute to unjust fear or panic

People just love to label others who don't agree with them, it's one of the highlights of this crisis.... division!

There's a difference between someone who doesn't believe in getting any vaccinations even those which have been successfully administered and proven for 50 years...

And those who won't be rushing out to jab themselves with a vaccine that's been rushed though all the stages either for political or financial reasons... Even if the vaccine only causes the deaths of 0.8% of the world's population that's still over 40 million people who will die!

People need to get their heads out of the clouds and some air between their ears on this.

"Cases" is an almost irrelevant stat, I don't know why it gets so much emphasis.

Positivity rate in the general population, hospitalisations, ICU & deaths are much more useful.

jackboy wrote: »

Most nurses have refused to take the flu vaccine for years.

Source?

mandrake04 wrote: »

They still probably still are, people are still reporting delays in turnaround and every 2nd day you get a higher number. Maybe media need to ask that question as NEPHET just regard testing as testing.

HSE manage the testing, not NPHET.