Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

ExMachina1000 · 26-08-2020 06:18PM

Arghus wrote: »

People are entitled to their opinion, but that doesn't mean that all opinions are equally valid. In fact, some are very stupid.

You don't get to decide that. You cant censor someone by hurling abuse at them. Better to cut it out to be honest.

I'm done as I feel you will turn on me next.

26-08-2020 06:19PM

eigrod wrote: »

As of now, those are still the County figures on Monday night.

Did you open both links?

That's how this has been reported since the start.

You don't get full breakdown of County cases for cases reported today.

Jim_Hodge · 26-08-2020 06:24PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Not at all. People will always have different opinions and are entitled to do so.
Each to their own

Sometimes you just have call out crap though. There are opinions and there's pure stupidity that needs to be clearly shown as such.

Arghus · 26-08-2020 06:24PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You don't get to decide that. You cant censor someone by hurling abuse at them. Better to cut it out to be honest.

I'm done as I feel you will turn on me next.

Disagreement isn't censorship.

spookwoman · 26-08-2020 06:25PM

Todays numbers 26/08/2020
164 New cases with 2 denotifications. Total = 28,363
0 Deaths with 0 denotification. Total = 1,777

Monday to Sunday average for week 57.58 with total of 403 cases. Last week was avg 104.57 with Total of 732 cases.

(24/08/20 GOV.IE)
Hospital 3397 -
ICU 444 +1
Healthcare workers 8567 +5
Clusters 2633 +49
Cases Associated with Clusters 15,357 +147
Median Age 46

(26/08/20 HUB)
ICU 5 -1
Admissions and Discharged - / 1
Confirmed In Hospital 26 -
Admission (24 hrs) 2
Discharged (24 hrs) 6

Transmission
(24/08/20 GOV.IE)
Community 30.4% -.1%
Close Contact Confirmed 66.5% +.1%
Travel 2.4% -
Unknown 0.7% -

(25/08/20 Press release)
Community 21 Yesterday 11
Close Contact 80 Yesterday 46

Testing
(26/08/20 Hub)
Total 790,298 + 7,648 Difference of 17 Test on Hib Total should be 7665
Hospital Total 300,022 3,617
Labs Total 490,276 +4,048
Total Positive 31,586 +105 %Positive 4% - Week% Positive 1.5% -
Total also incorrect on the 20/08/2020. 507 difference.

|Age Affected|Incr|Hospitalised|Incr
(27/08/2020 Gov.ie)
0-4|277|+3|25|+1
5-14|518|+11|18|-
15-24|2464|+21|78|-1
25-34|4918|+14|205|-
35-44|4947|+14|279|-
45-54|4952|+15|458|-
55-64|3463|+6|504|-
65-74|1915|+4|596|-
75-84|2337|+2|753|-
85+|2387|-|480|-
?|21|-1|1|-

County|24/08/2020|Incr|23/08/2020|Incr|County|24/08/2020|Incr|23/08/2020|Incr
Carlow|223|+2|221|+1|Cavan|886|+3|883|–
Clare|451|+6|445|+2|Cork|1620|+3|1617|+3
Donegal|517|+1|516|+4|Dublin|13,095|+18|13,077|+70
Galway|511|+1|510|+1|Kerry|325|+1|324|-2
Kildare|2189|+15|2195|+6|Kilkenny|395|+1|394|-
Laois|377|-|377|+4|Leitrim|85|-|85|-(22 days)
Limerick|709|+3|706|+9|Longford|292|-|292|-
Louth|820|+1|819|+3|Mayo|587|-|587|-
Meath|884|+3|881|+3|Monaghan|556|+2|554|+4
Offaly|619|+12|619|12|Roscommon|353|-|353|-
Sligo|156|-|156|–|Tipperary|669|+31|638|+1
Waterford|181|-|181|-|Westmeath|684|-|684|-
Wexford|273|+7|266|+1|Wicklow|736|+1|735|+11

26-08-2020 06:29PM

Akabusi wrote: »

This reminded me of being audited, the training records and procedures where still hot from the printer when i was handing them to the auditor.

Proud of your crime?

CalamariFritti · 26-08-2020 06:32PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Some amount of arseholes taking their anti mask pandemic is all a conspiracy theories to a new level at the minute.

A very unfortunate side effect of the rise in unemployment that is become all the more evident lately.

Whats the story with these ongoing attempts of policing the discussion by throwing language and 'conspiracy theorie' at anyone who questions the logic behind some of the measures? 'Arsehole' is pretty strong around here I would have thought. Must feel very big up there on your pedestal.

lee_baby_simms · 26-08-2020 06:35PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Whats the story with these ongoing attempts of policing the discussion by throwing language and 'conspiracy theorie' at anyone who questions the logic behind some of the measures? 'Arsehole' is pretty strong around here I would have thought. Must feel very big up there on your pedestal.

If you’re not a government/NPHET conformist then you’re Jim Corr. Welcome to 2020.

Discourse here has sadly gone down the toilet over the past week or so. Reasonable debate has been supplanted by ad hominem nonsense.

podgeandrodge · 26-08-2020 06:39PM

Arghus wrote: »

People are entitled to their opinion, but that doesn't mean that all opinions are equally valid. In fact, some are very stupid.

In your opinion!

statesaver · 26-08-2020 06:41PM

Arghus wrote: »

People pushing anti mask crap are the selfish ones.

Are the Finnish and Dutch governments selfish ?

We are supposed to wear masks only when social distancing is difficult to maintain. For 4/5 mouths shops / supermarkets had no problem with social distancing why now when the height of the pandemic is over we must wear masks ? I have no problem wearing one but I do question why it's needed now and not 4/5 months ago. Even professor O'Neill on the LLS said they were not needed at the height of the pandemic.

podgeandrodge · 26-08-2020 06:41PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

And read more from scientists who are not on one extreme or the other !

Carl Heneghan is an apologist for Boris's handling of the UK " not lockdown " and is very much on one end of the spectrum

I'm not sure that's really true. He's given out about Boris quite regularly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/lockdown-damage-outweighs-coronavirus-warning-121940675.html

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-uk-needs-to-be-more-open-about-covid-risks

In any event, I think (but my opinion might be stupid

) it's a reasonably balanced opinion he has.

Arghus · 26-08-2020 06:41PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

If you’re not a government/NPHET conformist then you’re Jim Corr. Welcome to 2020.

Discourse here has sadly gone down the toilet over the past week or so. Reasonable debate has been supplanted by ad hominem nonsense.

Bemoans reasonable debate.

Refers to everyone as disagrees as a "conformist"

The unknowing irony of some remarks on here at times.

Gruffalux · 26-08-2020 06:43PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBesOFURek

In times of tension let us remember the Dude.

lee_baby_simms · 26-08-2020 06:44PM

Arghus wrote: »

Bemoans reasonable debate.

Refers to everyone as disagrees as a "conformist"

The unknowing irony of some remarks on here at times.

I know it’s awful isn’t it?

Arghus · 26-08-2020 06:45PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

I know it’s awful isn’t it?

On that, we are in complete agreement.

lee_baby_simms · 26-08-2020 06:46PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vBesOFURek

In times of tension let us remember the Dude.

This isn’t Nam. There are rules.

Always_Running · 26-08-2020 06:49PM

403 cases in first three days in the week is the highest we had since May. Looking at least 900 to 1000 cases this week if the current trend continues. For comparison last week was 732 cases, the week before 557.

In good news a 4th day in a row without a reported death and people in hospital and ICU with this virus remains low.

fritzelly · 26-08-2020 06:50PM

Always_Running wrote: »

403 cases in first three days in the week is the highest we had since May. Looking at least 900 to 1000 cases this week if the current trend continues. For comparison last week was 732 cases, the week before 557.

In good news a 4th day in a row without a reported death and people in hospital and ICU with this virus remains low.

And that's all that really matters

ninebeanrows · 26-08-2020 06:54PM

The elephant in the room is the low hospital numbers despite upswing in infections.

The next 2-4 weeks are critical, if the hospitalisation figures can be maintained at relatively low levels, there will then be a weight of evidence towards a somewhat weakened strain of COVID now circulating.
Fingers crossed we finally catch a break with this nasty disease.

lee_baby_simms · 26-08-2020 06:58PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The elephant in the room is the low hospital numbers despite upswing in infections.

The next 2-4 weeks are critical, if the hospitalisation figures can be maintained at relatively low levels, there will then be a weight of evidence towards a somewhat weakened strain of COVID now circulating.
Fingers crossed we finally catch a break with this nasty disease.

The numbers would indicate we caught a break months ago but yes I agree.

mloc123 · 26-08-2020 06:59PM

Always_Running wrote: »

403 cases in first three days in the week is the highest we had since May. Looking at least 900 to 1000 cases this week if the current trend continues. For comparison last week was 732 cases, the week before 557.

In good news a 4th day in a row without a reported death and people in hospital and ICU with this virus remains low.

Once we can keep it under 1000 cases a day we are doing okay :pac:

Boggles · 26-08-2020 06:59PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The elephant in the room is the low hospital numbers despite upswing in infections.

Not really.

Hospitalization rate is what it should be given the level of infections.

ICU rates are steady given the vast majority of infections are occurring in the relatively young age bracket.

As for the virus becoming weaker, there is the grand sum of 0 scientific evidence for that.

Always_Running · 26-08-2020 07:00PM

fritzelly wrote: »

And that's all that really matters

It's the main thing alright however if cases per week don't lower the chances of this over cautious government lifting restrictions on September 13th will be slim.

26-08-2020 07:00PM

We'll then be told to fear those who have it for fear of everlasting lung atrophy, cardiac anomolies and every other complication de jour. Sell it guys..get out and sell this in any way you can...goalposts moved again. Sure the media printed 70% of positive tests are indicitive of recklessness..real divide and conquer stuff to be fair..

lee_baby_simms · 26-08-2020 07:02PM

Boggles wrote: »

As for the virus becoming weaker, there is the grand sum of 0 scientific evidence for that.

The IFR rates from Spain from the last few months vs the first few months of the pandemic are very encouraging and certainly indicate a change in the virus.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 07:03PM

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1298682085033545731?s=19

normanoffside · 26-08-2020 07:05PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The elephant in the room is the low hospital numbers despite upswing in infections.

The next 2-4 weeks are critical, if the hospitalisation figures can be maintained at relatively low levels, there will then be a weight of evidence towards a somewhat weakened strain of COVID now circulating.
Fingers crossed we finally catch a break with this nasty disease.

We've been hearing that the next 2 weeks are crucial for months now. Getting tired of it all...

26-08-2020 07:07PM

Health minister.."people die in cars or crashes".... ye minister are car crashes contagious in a classroom setting???. From the government that brought you swingate.

stephenjmcd · 26-08-2020 07:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

Not really.

Hospitalization rate is what it should be given the level of infections.

ICU rates are steady given the vast majority of infections are occurring in the relatively young age bracket.

As for the virus becoming weaker, there is the grand sum of 0 scientific evidence for that.

Hospitalisation rates are not where they should be, they are below.

We should see roughly 8% of cases in hosptial and we aren't and yes age has a role to play with this.

But to say "Hospitalization rate is what it should be given the level of infections" isn't accurate.

2 weeks old but see below graph on cases that enter hosptial 1 week later. We aren't seeing large numbers of cases entering hosptial despite cases rising last few weeks.

Now you'll disagree of course but hosptials aren't seeing any dramatic increase as a result of increasing case numbers at the moment.

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1293593841631518720?s=19

Boggles · 26-08-2020 07:10PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

The IFR rates from Spain from the last few months vs the first few months of the pandemic are very encouraging and certainly indicate a change in the virus.

That's everywhere.

It's down to preparedness and several other factors, not the virus mutating to a less deadly strain.

They actively monitor it, there is no scientific evidence based study suggesting it is less deadly. Zero.

There is one awaiting peer review at the moment, that suggests it is as deadly as when it started. Couple of others done to disprove that it is deadlier, which concluded it's just as deadly.

Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

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