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Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Having some issues loading into this. Suspect my internet might need a reset as it took several attempts to even log into Xbox Live and get to the 'Press Any Key' screen, now I'm greeted with a 92GB update on top of the 100GB initial installation? If I knew that I would have booted it up earlier to get it out of the way, the anticipation is killing me!

    Hopefully my i7 2700k and GTX1060 will manage to run this ok. Apparently turning off AI planes helps quite a lot for performance. Anyone know of any other tweaks to help with performance?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Installed this tonight first flight sim.
    Only done early tutorials so far but it's very enjoyable, I'm actually flying ;)
    I'm using a controller and it's not bad , any point hooking up my steering wheel and pedals , is it usable?
    If I continue to enjoy I'll buy some proper controller hardware.
    Runs great on my rig @ 2560 X 1440 very high settings
    8600K @ 4.6 GHz & 1080ti .
    Might have to drop graphics a bit once I get to large cities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    I take back what I said about Knock, Shannon is in a dire state compared to Knock: There is no taxiway A, and no apron whatsoever. I wouldn't normally care that much but for the fact I was flying at night and couldn't find the green taxiway lights after landing on 24.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    Dcully wrote: »
    Installed this tonight first flight sim.
    Only done early tutorials so far but it's very enjoyable, I'm actually flying ;)
    I'm using a controller and it's not bad , any point hooking up my steering wheel and pedals , is it usable?
    If I continue to enjoy I'll buy some proper controller hardware.
    Runs great on my rig @ 2560 X 1440 very high settings
    8600K @ 4.6 GHz & 1080ti .
    Might have to drop graphics a bit once I get to large cities.


    You could use your clutch and accelerator as rudder pedals but using the steering wheel would be useless! Not sure if you meant the question that way! :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Doge wrote: »
    You could use your clutch and accelerator as rudder pedals but using the steering wheel would be useless! Not sure if you meant the question that way! :D

    Yeah meant pedals as rudder :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Dcully wrote: »
    Yeah meant pedals as rudder :)
    What kind of wheel? Logitech wheels tend to have a split axis on the clutch and accelerator which made it trickier for me to do exactly this back in day on FSX.
    On the plus side, if you can get it to work and can turn the centering force feedback off on the steering wheel then you've got yourself a very nice pitch trim wheel like this one https://www.reddit.com/r/Xplane/comments/eq6nbz/whilst_setting_up_my_racing_pedals_for_use_as/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Has anyone tried the Active Pause feature? It just pauses the plane and you can go out and get a drone view from outside the aircraft anywhere you want.
    It might be better for looking at certain things instead of multitasking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    Has anyone tried the Active Pause feature? It just pauses the plane and you can go out and get a drone view from outside the aircraft anywhere you want.
    It might be better for looking at certain things instead of multitasking.

    I did last night but if the plane was tilting down under the horizon it could actually "crash" even though I had the game paused.

    The plane would be frozen in air visually but it was like the physics engine was unpaused!

    Strange bug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭cherrytaz


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    Starts at 8:11 I think... Hard to find with no waypoints (video is still processing so give it time for 1080p)

    Thank you very much, I can see our farm on this! Fantastic. I think they have definitely overdone it on the trees in general!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    I cant fly !! Any time the move the stick and re center, the aircraft stick stays where it is. i have to counteract it to bring it back. Its aful!! I changed the dynamics from Modern to legacy and it helped some bit but i still barrel rolled the A320 after turning off the autopilot to land. I cant understand how its so different to FSX and PMDG.
    The graphics are out of this world tho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Logic


    Flying over Waterford to show my parents yesterday and they couldn't believe how well it was represented apart from the 2 bridges in the city. I showed them their estate and where their house is. Now my dad is pushing me to build the pc for him a lot faster than originally planned :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    The chimneys in Dublin... there was only one of them!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Flying over Waterford to show my parents yesterday and they couldn't believe how well it was represented apart from the 2 bridges in the city. I showed them their estate and where their house is. Now my dad is pushing me to build the pc for him a lot faster than originally planned :)

    Love this :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Hold on for the new GPUs out next month. My poor 5700XT is pegged at 100% utilisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Hold on for the new GPUs out next month. My poor 5700XT is pegged at 100% utilisation.

    This is great info, I am holding out until I can get a handle on what exactly this needs to run properly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    I'm on 1440p ultra I'm hitting 80% ish usage and only 25 - 50fps on my 2070super. Pretty much was using the slowest plane and flying low.

    Will probably lower it down to high.

    When I went to take off from Donegal I got a major frame drop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    I'm on 1440p ultra I'm hitting 80% ish usage and only 25 - 50fps on my 2070super. Pretty much was using the slowest plane and flying low.

    Will probably lower it down to high.

    When I went to take off from Donegal I got a major frame drop.

    Thats because you went back to the 1980s :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    I was greeted with "Please Insert Microsfoft Flight Simulator Game disc" today even though I'm on the Xbox Game Pass version!

    Grrr.

    I'd say changing my region to Kirabati Monday has backfired on me!


    Tried a few things suggested online but failed to get it to run, looks like I'll be doing a full uninstall and reinstall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Colonel Claptrap


    When I land, ATC will give me directions to a gate but i haven't a clue how to get there. Is there any way of highlighting the gate as a waypoint?

    Currently i'm handing controls over to the co-pilot once i peel off the runway and he/she brings me the rest of the way.

    Any advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    Doge wrote: »
    I was greeted with "Please Insert Microsfoft Flight Simulator Game disc" today even though I'm on the Xbox Game Pass version!

    Grrr.

    I'd say changing my region to Kirabati Monday has backfired on me!


    Tried a few things suggested online but failed to get it to run, looks like I'll be doing a full uninstall and reinstall.




    Looks like Microsoft has clamped down on this and the only solution is you need to sign up to Game Pass with a separate account and pay another euro.

    It seems to lock to the sim to the region your first installed with.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Ah jaysus this is great craic altogether.
    Finished the tutorials so thought id fly from Baldonnel to Dublin airport for a short run in the noob plane Cessna 152 i think its called.
    What should of been a short hop took well over an hour as i got totally distracted flying all around Dublin a few times then out to howth to approach Dublin Airport.
    Im a total noob but its mighty enjoyable, just found my old logitech 3D Pro Joystick too, gonna sort it out later :)
    Gonna fly from Dublin past my place in Monasterevin later during rush hour traffic above the M7 :p
    Heres my first landing in Dublin and first non tutorial flight, got distracted looking at the terminals and almost blew it lol.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Tried the command prompt setting, tried deleting the Flight Sim folder from the Users/AppData/Microsoft folder, tried deleting the few 2GB files in the Flight Sim directory folder. Still downloading at a pathetic speed.

    Going to bring the PC into the living room to plug directly into the modem, but the office has a 75Mb powerline connection and it's barely using 20Mb.

    I'm afraid to even try downloading city data when I eventually get into it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Colonel Claptrap


    Nice landing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRbPYCSUZwU

    Francis Higgins doing this as Shlug now. It's a great stream.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Ciano35


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    Just got going with it, it's really nice in fairness :cool: Physics seem a lot different coming from X-plane but maybe I just need to get used to the bouncy camera.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Conchir


    I'm having a hard time running this :( Can only run it on Low settings so far.

    I found these minimum/recommended/ideal specs on reddit, and comparing them to mine. The Windows build was a quick fix, it's updating now. It seems my CPU might be where I'm getting screwed mostly, but that's obviouly a very expensive thing to change. Would a RAM upgrade have any impact?

    Minimum Recommended Ideal Mine
    OS Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1803
    CPU Intel i5-4460 Intel i5-8400 Intel i7-9800X Intel i5-4690
    GPU Nvidia GTX 770 Nvidia GTX 970 Nvidia RTX 2080 Nvidia GTX 970
    VRAM 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB
    RAM 8GB 16GB 32GB 16GB
    HDD 150GB 150GB 150GB 150GB
    Bandwidth 5Mbps 20Mbps 50Mbps ~32Mbps


    Edit: Oof I just saw this post on mobile and the table is not having a good time. My CPU is an Intel i5-4690, RAM is 16GB, GPU is GTX 970.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Conchir wrote: »
    I'm having a hard time running this :( Can only run it on Low settings so far.

    I found these minimum/recommended/ideal specs on reddit, and comparing them to mine. The Windows build was a quick fix, it's updating now. It seems my CPU might be where I'm getting screwed mostly, but that's obviouly a very expensive thing to change. Would a RAM upgrade have any impact?

    Minimum Recommended Ideal Mine
    OS Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1909 Windows 10 v 1803
    CPU Intel i5-4460 Intel i5-8400 Intel i7-9800X Intel i5-4690
    GPU Nvidia GTX 770 Nvidia GTX 970 Nvidia RTX 2080 Nvidia GTX 970
    VRAM 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB
    RAM 8GB 16GB 32GB 16GB
    HDD 150GB 150GB 150GB 150GB
    Bandwidth 5Mbps 20Mbps 50Mbps ~32Mbps


    Edit: Oof I just saw this post on mobile and the table is not having a good time. My CPU is an Intel i5-4690, RAM is 16GB, GPU is GTX 970.

    TBH both the CPU and GPU are getting on a bit :( There might be some bargains to be had when the new GPUs come out in a months time. To switch the CPU (I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X from AMD) would mean swapping the Motherboard and RAM also.

    32MB RAM is the idea but I don't think you'd benefit as it's probably not your bottle neck.

    The other option would be a 4770 or 4790 i7 which might garner some extra performance but they tend to be over priced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    NEEDS HELICOPTERS...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Hold on for the new GPUs out next month. My poor 5700XT is pegged at 100% utilisation.
    *Screams in RX 480*
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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    TBH both the CPU and GPU are getting on a bit :( There might be some bargains to be had when the new GPUs come out in a months time. To switch the CPU (I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X from AMD) would mean swapping the Motherboard and RAM also.

    32MB RAM is the idea but I don't think you'd benefit as it's probably not your bottle neck.

    The other option would be a 4770 or 4790 i7 which might garner some extra performance but they tend to be over priced.

    I've a new pc build with a Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb RAM and a gigabyte rx 5700 xt. Its running great on ultra settings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Conchir


    TBH both the CPU and GPU are getting on a bit :( There might be some bargains to be had when the new GPUs come out in a months time. To switch the CPU (I'd recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 7 3700X from AMD) would mean swapping the Motherboard and RAM also.

    32MB RAM is the idea but I don't think you'd benefit as it's probably not your bottle neck.

    The other option would be a 4770 or 4790 i7 which might garner some extra performance but they tend to be over priced.

    That's what I feared. Thanks for the advice, I've some thinking to do now it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    Anyone having issues with Live Weather?

    Cork was showing clear skies when I had live enabled which clearly isn't right!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,162 ✭✭✭wanderer 22


    Doge wrote: »
    Anyone having issues with Live Weather?

    Cork was showing clear skies when I had live enabled which clearly isn't right!

    The Shannon weather radar is down afaik.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's good fun, but I remembered why I had to stop playing the previous one, it's very difficult to play without a proper hotas.

    Using a controller is super difficult to keep things smooth.

    Think I'll hold off playing any more til I buy a hotas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    awec wrote: »
    It's good fun, but I remembered why I had to stop playing the previous one, it's very difficult to play without a proper hotas.

    Using a controller is super difficult to keep things smooth.

    Think I'll hold off playing any more til I buy a hotas.

    I have to Hold off also. Mine is old and required manual axis assignments. Something is not right because if i turn a direction and centre my stick(saitek ST290 PRO), the aircraft stick stays in the direction it went. I have to go the opposite way to pull it back centre. and it takes a few attempts. Not ideal when trying to line up an A320 into LCY :D the stick was purchased in 2004 for FS 2004.

    Think ill get the airbus one when its released next month and stick with P3D until then.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I have to Hold off also. Mine is old and required manual axis assignments. Something is not right because if i turn a direction and centre my stick(saitek ST290 PRO), the aircraft stick stays in the direction it went. I have to go the opposite way to pull it back centre. and it takes a few attempts. Not ideal when trying to line up an A320 into LCY :D the stick was purchased in 2004 for FS 2004.

    Think ill get the airbus one when its released next month and stick with P3D until then.
    Thinking the same, this one looks really good for the price, tempted to pre-order on Amazon.

    The controller seems to allow for drift or something, it's awkward to try hold it in one hand while simultaneously using kb/m to try look at instrument panel etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Enjoying this so far, lots of little annoyances mainly Shannon airport being a mess, but apart from that it's fantastic and oh so pretty

    Love the live player traffic too, my favorite moment so far is landing the Icon A5 on Lough Cummeenapeasta near Carrantuohill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    I have to Hold off also. Mine is old and required manual axis assignments. Something is not right because if i turn a direction and centre my stick(saitek ST290 PRO), the aircraft stick stays in the direction it went. I have to go the opposite way to pull it back centre. and it takes a few attempts. Not ideal when trying to line up an A320 into LCY :D the stick was purchased in 2004 for FS 2004.

    Think ill get the airbus one when its released next month and stick with P3D until then.
    That seems to be more of an A320 thing than a stick thing. It reminds me of the 737 when you put on Control wheel steering: The autopilot holds the plane in whatever direction you pointed it, never centering. I'm finding a whole plethora of problems with the A320, biggest of which is that APPR mode never shows the Glideslope on the PFD.

    I'd bet that your stick will work normally with a GA plane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭AirBiscuit


    Taking a shot at fixing up Knock now that I've discovered the developer tools and SDK but this is WAY trickier than using WorldEditor for X-Plane...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭Board Walker


    AirBiscuit wrote: »
    That seems to be more of an A320 thing than a stick thing. It reminds me of the 737 when you put on Control wheel steering: The autopilot holds the plane in whatever direction you pointed it, never centering. I'm finding a whole plethora of problems with the A320, biggest of which is that APPR mode never shows the Glideslope on the PFD.

    I'd bet that your stick will work normally with a GA plane.

    It was the same until i turned the flight dynamics i think it was to Legacy mode instead of modern. the GA seemed to react better.

    We will be waiting a while for A320 from aerosoft, its number 3 on Aerosofts to do ist.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    awec wrote: »
    It's good fun, but I remembered why I had to stop playing the previous one, it's very difficult to play without a proper hotas.

    Using a controller is super difficult to keep things smooth.

    Think I'll hold off playing any more til I buy a hotas.


    I took out my old joystick yesterday only to find its turning to the right all the time as if right rudder direction is constantly at 10 - 20 percent, gutted!
    Ive updated drivers etc but no joy so im using an xbox controler and doing ok.
    I turned all axis sensitivity to -75% and added a small 2% deadzone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    awec wrote: »
    Thinking the same, this one looks really good for the price, tempted to pre-order on Amazon.

    The controller seems to allow for drift or something, it's awkward to try hold it in one hand while simultaneously using kb/m to try look at instrument panel etc.


    Was looking at the same set myself. I'm completly new when it comes to flight sims and these extra pieces of equipment.

    How many 3 pin power and usb connections would be required for one of those.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Was looking at the same set myself. I'm completly new when it comes to flight sims and these extra pieces of equipment.

    How many 3 pin power and usb connections would be required for one of those.

    It won't require external power, it'd be USB powered, and I think it's just 1 USB, at least it just lists 1 USB in the box contents.

    But not sure how that would work, maybe the throttle has a wire into the stick which then goes into your PC.

    Or maybe the listing is wrong, and it's 1 USB per-item.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Was looking at the same set myself. I'm completly new when it comes to flight sims and these extra pieces of equipment.

    How many 3 pin power and usb connections would be required for one of those.


    What is the item you guys are talking about?
    I dont see any link or mention :o


  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Dcully wrote: »
    What is the item you guys are talking about?
    I dont see any link or mention :o

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086J6KWTZ?pf_rd_r=4Y4989E5H4JX7WQMCDA9&pf_rd_p=e632fea2-678f-4848-9a97-bcecda59cb4e


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully




  • Administrators Posts: 54,091 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I'll have to watch that later. I assume there'll be some flaws with it given the price point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    awec wrote: »
    It won't require external power, it'd be USB powered, and I think it's just 1 USB, at least it just lists 1 USB in the box contents.

    But not sure how that would work, maybe the throttle has a wire into the stick which then goes into your PC.

    Or maybe the listing is wrong, and it's 1 USB per-item.

    No external power is a big seller for me. Will watch the review later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    FFS now I want a third set of plastic paraphernalia.

    X52 for Elite Dangerous and DCS
    Yoke and throttle etc for the piston props and now this for pretending I work for RyanAir.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 450 ✭✭beanian


    Ciano35 wrote: »
    81.png

    Just got going with it, it's really nice in fairness :cool: Physics seem a lot different coming from X-plane but maybe I just need to get used to the bouncy camera.

    Lots of work for you to do in this new Sim! Can't wait to get a proper version of EIDW, EISG, EICK etc


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