Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

hmmm · 25-08-2020 10:09PM

If you actually listened to what he was saying, he didn't say this. How many times are you going to repost this without listening to it? He says very clearly we have to continue with social distancing and hygiene measures to control the virus.

drunkmonkey · 25-08-2020 10:11PM

hmmm wrote: »

If you actually listened to what he was saying, he didn't say this. How many times are you going to repost this without listening to it?

He didn't say what?, did you listen to it, first time I've posted it.

jill_valentine · 25-08-2020 10:13PM

"We have turned a corner..."

caveat emptor · 25-08-2020 10:15PM

I am hopeful. The hospitalisation rate is very low despite rising cases.
Reinfection looks bad but might not be if it’s a weaker strain doing the rounds.

Schools going back is very worrying but I can see huge efforts have been made. I think we just need to keep doing what we are doing.

If schools do see large outbreaks it’s not the end of the world as vast majority of kids won’t get it bad.
It will be proof that we need to adapt and put more imagination into classroom etc.

With any luck in a few years it will just be another common cold.

hmmm · 25-08-2020 10:17PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He didn't say what?, did you listen to it, first time I've posted it.

Sorry, I have confused you with the 42 other posters who posted this earlier. My point still stands however, they are posting this to mean Covid is past. The good doctor is saying that Covid is still around, but we are managing to control it - and we have to continue to control it.

25-08-2020 10:23PM

hug your granny and grandad...who are they kidding, they don't give a fiddlers about this particular age group.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4955378/pensioners-trolleys-irish-hospitals/

meanwhile they are offering FREE Flu jabs this year to the kids.
Ryan will give one to everyone in the audience.
It;s the old adage , I wouldn't take it if it was for free..well god love them, they'll put that to the test.

Professor Moriarty · 25-08-2020 10:27PM

JDD wrote: »

You know the way they publish the stats regarding hospital admissions for Covid and ICU admissions and what not.. is there somewhere that they also do that for flu admissions? I'm not trying to make any comparisons or say "look, 6 admissions for flu and only 3 for covid!!" or anything. I just want to try and track flu hospital admissions along with covid admissions to get a better idea of how our health system is coping, and whether the social distancing/mask wearing/WFH is making a difference on the flu numbers.

Interesting article here about that very subject in Britain. Two highlights. Summer flu is now killing more people than Covid-19. Flu deaths have decreased by 50% compared to the past five years as a result of social distancing.

s1ippy · 25-08-2020 10:29PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Very interesting paper on how 1977 was probably released form a lab in Russia. The reason for the release is unknown. Could have been an accident , could have be during vaccine development or could have been a weapon. The strain was identical to the one from 1956 and not seen in wild since that point. If it were in animals etc it would have mutated through the years. It particularly effected younger adults.

Whole area is shady. References the ban on gain of function research by US.

https://mbio.asm.org/content/6/4/e01013-15

This really highlights how we're all just pawns in the game of chess global governments are always having, deserving to be sacrificed for economic advantage instead of permitted to live our lives without the fear of biochemical weapons being unleashed upon us at any moment.

China seem to be doing great these days.

speckle · 25-08-2020 10:30PM

Just posted this on another thread and then realised I ont think i have seen it on this one

http://imj.ie/the-presentation-diagnosis-of-the-first-known-community-transmitted-case-of-sars-cov-2-in-the-republic-of-ireland/

May he rest in peace.

25-08-2020 10:30PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Interesting article here about that very subject in Britain. Two highlights. Summer flu is now killing more people than Covid-19. Flu deaths have decreased by 50% compared to the past five years as a result of social distancing.

I agree and the timing and language of tis alone is interesting..good old google.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hospitals-breaking-point-after-21172185

25-08-2020 10:30PM

froog wrote: »

yes i know how it works. it's quicker to say "the virus is weakening" than "the newer less virulent strain is outcompeting the preceding more virulent strain"

Exactly, imagine telling your mate, dont worry about corona anymore, the newer less virulent strain is outcompeting the preceding more virulent strain:pac::pac::pac::pac:

drunkmonkey · 25-08-2020 10:31PM

hmmm wrote: »

The good doctor is saying that Covid is still around, but we are managing to control it - andwe have to continue to control it.

He's saying a lot more than that. He says we can relax soon and gives some simple clear messaging were devoid of from our Government.

25-08-2020 10:33PM

and this too, sorry

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/flu-kills-three-people-ireland-21088617

Professor Moriarty · 25-08-2020 10:33PM

speckle wrote: »

Just posted this on another thread and then realised I ont think i have seen it on this one

http://imj.ie/the-presentation-diagnosis-of-the-first-known-community-transmitted-case-of-sars-cov-2-in-the-republic-of-ireland/

Must get a flu shot asap. You wouldn't want to have Covid-19 and the flu simultaneously.

ACitizenErased · 25-08-2020 10:35PM

HSE Daily Operations Update
23 in hospital, increase of 1.
2 confirmed cases in hospital today, 1 in the Mater and 1 in UHL.
4 in ICU, reduction of 1 with zero deaths.
3 ventilated, no change.

25-08-2020 10:35PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHqz-Wk3hus

Professor Carl Heneghan
Professor of Evidence-Based Medicine and Director, Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine

Is this it, panic over..? Did Big Phil know before he left Roscommon?

As Ken Wolstenholme said, they think its all over, it is now.:cool:

hmmm · 25-08-2020 10:38PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He says we can relax soon

I didn't hear him saying we could relax soon and get rid of social distancing measures - where does he say that?

25-08-2020 10:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE Daily Operations Update
23 in hospital, increase of 1.
2 confirmed cases in hospital today, 1 in the Mater and 1 in UHL.
4 in ICU, reduction of 1 with zero deaths.
3 ventilated, no change.

Is that the lowest number in ICU since March?

stephenjmcd · 25-08-2020 10:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE Daily Operations Update
23 in hospital, increase of 1.
2 confirmed cases in hospital today, 1 in the Mater and 1 in UHL.
4 in ICU, reduction of 1 with zero deaths.
3 ventilated, no change.

Was just about to post before I saw your post.

UHL and Naas accounting for 7 of those 23.

The rest are all fairly spread around the country

speckle · 25-08-2020 10:43PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Must get a flu shot asap. You wouldn't want to have Covid-19 and the flu simultaneously.

But remember influenza vacines are not perfect in their coverage, you can still get the flu. I think the WHO CDC ECDC normally have reports every year on the statistics of who it is working best on and if they missed a strain.
Sadly, as my family knows all too well.

ACitizenErased · 25-08-2020 10:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that the lowest number in ICU since March?

I'm gonna say yes but open to correction

stephenjmcd · 25-08-2020 10:46PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is that the lowest number in ICU since March?

There was 4 at the end of July as well. ICU still very stable numbers wise.

Can't see any below 4

Micky 32 · 25-08-2020 10:46PM

speckle wrote: »

But remember influenza vacines are not perfect in their coverage, you can still get the flu. I think the WHO CDC ECDC normally have reports every year on the statistics of who it is working best on and if they missed a strain.
Sadly, as family knows too well.

My father gets the flu shot every year but still got a miserable dose at xmas.

Professor Moriarty · 25-08-2020 10:47PM

speckle wrote: »

But remember influenza vacines are not perfect in their coverage, you can still get the flu. I think the WHO CDC ECDC normally have reports every year on the statistics of who it is working best on and if they missed a strain.
Sadly, as family knows too well.

Sorry to hear about your family member. You're right. Last year, a GP friend told me that the flu shots were only covering 58% (IIRC) of strains expected.

speckle · 25-08-2020 10:51PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

My father gets the flu shot every year but still got a miserable dose at xmas.

Yes we lost someone in the 2018 fiasco. No blame, sadly it is part of life.
Thankfully I don't feel like I am banging my head up against a brick wall like years ago in this country, when doctors told you that can't happen and you must be stupid, they know best.... Information is always key and the public should have access.

Martina1991 · 25-08-2020 10:58PM

igCorcaigh wrote:

Really? Aren't all test results reported to the HSE?

Reported to the HPSC.

I dont think they're reported to HSE if it has nothing to do with them.

25-08-2020 10:59PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There was 4 at the end of July as well. ICU still very stable numbers wise.

Can't see any below 4

ICU numbers is what is really important in all this I think.

If i broke my ankle and got tested for covid would I come up as a covid hospital admission if tested positive, but no symptoms?

ACitizenErased · 25-08-2020 10:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

ICU numbers is what is really important in all this I think.

If i broke my ankle and got tested for covid would I come up as a covid hospital admission if tested positive, but no symptoms?

As far as I know yes

Atlantic Dawn · 25-08-2020 11:02PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

My father gets the flu shot every year but still got a miserable dose at xmas.

From those around me who have had the flu shot I would rate it similar to snake oil, from cases where people have felt tired and weak for days after getting it to people getting severe flu weeks after getting the shot. I'd not pump any of that poison in to my body.

fritzelly · 25-08-2020 11:25PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

From those around me who have had the flu shot I would rate it similar to snake oil, from cases where people have felt tired and weak for days after getting it to people getting severe flu weeks after getting the shot. I'd not pump any of that poison in to my body.

Oh dear - you're one of them

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