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The Reseeding/Stitching Discussion Thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    alps wrote: »
    If its standing dry for the mower, bale it immediately..

    Its wilting since Tuesday...shouldn't think ot needs more..

    It was mowed today and baled this evening.

    Ready for the gutler now....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Reseeding a piece of ground here at the minute, soil sample results say its requires 3tonne of lime to the acre, would this be too much to put out in the go due to the weather conditions at the moment? I know 3 is the max at any one go

    In years past 3t tended to be the normal amount. The point now being made is the ground tends to be brittle and easily poached, esp a reseed. So in some senses depends on the use of the reseed.
    You could look at going 2t now and similar in two/three years time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dunedin wrote: »
    It was mowed today and baled this evening.

    Ready for the gutler now....

    Just before the rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭High bike


    Was lucky to get 5 acres of red start kale in last Tuesday before the heavy rain, i know it a prob a week or so late but long story.My question is about fert ,it’s supposed to get 3 bags to the acre but ground conditions won’t allow and the forecast isn’t too promising either suppose I can’t get it out for say a month should I go ahead and throw it out or would it be too late to work??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    was wondering what is the best way to get the land level for reseeding. Thanks.

    If it’s bad then plough is best way. You could give it a couple of runs with land leveller and then power Harrow and it’d be perfect then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    High bike wrote: »
    Was lucky to get 5 acres of red start kale in last Tuesday before the heavy rain, i know it a prob a week or so late but long story.My question is about fert ,it’s supposed to get 3 bags to the acre but ground conditions won’t allow and the forecast isn’t too promising either suppose I can’t get it out for say a month should I go ahead and throw it out or would it be too late to work??

    Fertiliser will still work but the amount grown from it will be reducing every day.

    I'll be blanket spreading the farm when I get a dry day or two and won't be putting any on from the start of September hopefully, bar some K on index 1 ground.

    And the cut off date for N and P in the 15th of September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Have done a nice bit of reseeding the last few years but it was always disced and power harrowed, I am going doing another field but the field is rough so thinking of ploughing it never ploughed before

    So what is it, you plough first then roll and then give it two runs with the land leveler and then power harrow and then sow and roll again?

    Also would it make much of a difference to the job on who is driving the plough and tractor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    morphy87 wrote: »
    Have done a nice bit of reseeding the last few years but it was always disced and power harrowed, I am going doing another field but the field is rough so thinking of ploughing it never ploughed before

    So what is it, you plough first then roll and then give it two runs with the land leveler and then power harrow and then sow and roll again?

    Also would it make much of a difference to the job on who is driving the plough and tractor?

    Big difference if you plough with someone who knows what they are doing as opposed to a fella just ripping the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Big difference if you plough with someone who knows what they are doing as opposed to a fella just ripping the ground.

    You would probably know as you do a lot of that work, you have probably sown after good plough men and bad men,if it was rushed would it make much of a difference? That’s the one thing that would worry them, a contractor sending on a lad and just rushing in and out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    morphy87 wrote: »
    You would probably know as you do a lot of that work, you have probably sown after good plough men and bad men,if it was rushed would it make much of a difference? That’s the one thing that would worry them, a contractor sending on a lad and just rushing in and out

    Depends on the land too. Some ploughed land, you could sow straight after it and others you could be tilling for a week getting it sort of level again. No 2 jobs are the same


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    morphy87 wrote: »

    So what is it, you plough first then roll and then give it two runs with the land leveler and then power harrow and then sow and roll again?

    Also would it make much of a difference to the job on who is driving the plough and tractor?

    Leaving aside quality of the man/woman on the plough, that is the sequence. Only other thing to consider is when to shake the fert/lime. Personally, I shake just before I sow and roll all after and out the gate then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Leaving aside quality of the man/woman on the plough, that is the sequence. Only other thing to consider is when to shake the fert/lime. Personally, I shake just before I sow and roll all after and out the gate then.

    Yeah I'd agree with ya there. I do the same as the fert and lime is mixed into the ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Hi All

    Im not a farmer but I have a question about overseeding my Garden,

    Would around this time be the best time to overseed my lawn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Level before you lime otherwise you could have lime missing is spots and overloaded elsewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Level before you lime otherwise you could have lime missing is spots and overloaded elsewhere

    Agree but some folk shake and then power Harrow in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Hi All

    Im not a farmer but I have a question about overseeding my Garden,

    Would around this time be the best time to overseed my lawn?

    It would be fine. If you are just improving the lawn you might need to scratch up a bit of earth with a rake, scatter seed, rake again to cover and then roll. If a small area instead of rolling just tamp it down firm with the back of a shovel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Level before you lime otherwise you could have lime missing is spots and overloaded elsewhere

    So spread lime and fertilizer just before you sow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Depends on the land too. Some ploughed land, you could sow straight after it and others you could be tilling for a week getting it sort of level again. No 2 jobs are the same

    Would most people power harrow it though? I presume it’s done in the process as I listed in my first post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    morphy87 wrote: »
    Would most people power harrow it though? I presume it’s done in the process as I listed in my first post?

    Yeah cos most contractors have the seed box on powerharrows so we sow like a one pass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Yeah cos most contractors have the seed box on powerharrows so we sow like a one pass

    The last bit I done, we disced it then gave it two runs of the power harrow and then we sowed, he had the grass seed box on the harrow


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    morphy87 wrote: »
    The last bit I done, we disced it then gave it two runs of the power harrow and then we sowed, he had the grass seed box on the harrow

    Most lads here would disc then powerharrow and sow with the powerharrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Leaving aside quality of the man/woman on the plough, that is the sequence. Only other thing to consider is when to shake the fert/lime. Personally, I shake just before I sow and roll all after and out the gate then.

    We always got the lime put out before its powerharrowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Most lads here would disc then powerharrow and sow with the powerharrow

    When you are sowing grass seed at what rate do you sow? How many kgs an acre? One man told me he always goes 1.2 bags to the acre,20kgs bags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Is it gone too late to sow typhon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    morphy87 wrote: »
    When you are sowing grass seed at what rate do you sow? How many kgs an acre? One man told me he always goes 1.2 bags to the acre,20kgs bags

    That's abit heavy but each to thier own. Roughly 15kg an acre is the norm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,614 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Is it gone too late to sow typhon?

    I'd say so. Abit to close to frost appearing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Is it gone too late to sow typhon?

    Sowed it 1st Sept 2 years ago, and it did ok. But we had a very kind autumn, and I think we’d be farther south than you...

    I found the sheep didn’t like it, was hard enough to get them to eat it at the start...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,597 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    We always got the lime put out before its powerharrowed

    Sorry should have said that was when using granlime. If using quarry lime, get it out as early as you can before tilling as it’ll help break down the trash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,501 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Sowed it 1st Sept 2 years ago, and it did ok. But we had a very kind autumn, and I think we’d be farther south than you...

    I found the sheep didn’t like it, was hard enough to get them to eat it at the start...

    Yea, my neighbour says they lose weight in the first week but they put on 3 -4 kg/week then and kill out great


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's abit heavy but each to thier own. Roughly 15kg an acre is the norm

    I never go more than 13.5kg- if index’s are correct there’s no need- I find with ploughing that you get a serious germination compared to the likes of a gutler- with ploughing and correct management the sward will last 50 years - I’ve seen gutler jobs being needed to be re done after 4 as the rye grass has died and been replaced by wild meadow grass
    If not ploughing I’d direct drill- clover seems to establish far better when it’s direct drilled
    These are only my experiences with my land type so mightn’t be the same for everyone


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