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Still Waters No Longer Running, Derp.

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  • #2342
    AllForIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    MOD

    Request denied.

    I'll take if further on principle.


  • #2343
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Oh if we can make demands Could i get a full Irish and a black coffee delivered please?

    Edit: That was more of a request, curse me and my lefty politeness:(


  • #2344
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh if we can make demands Could i get a full Irish and a black coffee delivered please?
    Comin' right up, Timberrrr.

    Note that the full Irish is, naturally, well to the left of center.

    523976.jpg


  • #2345
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I'll take if further on principle.
    523978.gif


  • #2346
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,888 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    robindch wrote: »
    Comin' right up, Timberrrr.

    Note that the full Irish is, naturally, well to the left of center.

    523976.jpg

    But like a true lefty you have to share it with the rest of us comrade


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  • #2347
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    But like a true lefty you have to share it with the rest of us comrade

    I demand that tomato is removed.
    No place for a fruiting vegetable in the midst of that homage to protein and saturated fat.


  • #2348
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,861 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    And now for the sign of the grease


    Grease be with you


  • #2349
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,888 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I demand that tomato is removed.
    No place for a fruiting vegetable in the midst of that homage to protein and saturated fat.

    Its ok if it's red fruit or veg


  • #2350
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I trust my instinct's about people, what kind of people they are, combined with their views and how they behave, even on a text based interacton.


    "A man who will misuse an apostrophe is capable of anything." - Con Houlihan

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #2351
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    But like a true lefty you have to share it with the rest of us comrade
    And unlike a true right-winger, I'm not forcing you to eat it.


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  • #2352
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,911 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I think the Mod is being deliberately thick here, a characteristic of intellectual non intellectual types I've noticed.

    I never said this particular thread was a result of Lefty moderation, I'm saying it's totally non-intellectual in the first place. I never accused any Mod for starting it, but Mods encouraged it, or at least let it go for fun.

    The mod says I have an opportunity to go to the feedback forum. sure, but the Mod completely ignored the primary point I made, yeah, no comment on it whatsoever, just some pathetic bolded text.

    I trust my instinct's about people, what kind of people they are, combined with their views and how they behave, even on a text based interacton.

    While you might trust your instincts, I'll think you'll find most regulars on this forum favour objective evidence. So for example, while you complain about Lefty moderation, the simple fact is that the vast majority of regular visitors to this forum are left leaning liberals;

    A&A Group Graph
    https://www.politicalcompass.org/crowdchart?&Kiwi+In+Ie=-3.6%2C-5.3&The+Chizler=-2.1%2C-4.5&Pherekydes=-6.9%2C-5.9&Sulla+Felix=-3.3%2C-4.8&Orion=-5.6%2C-6.5&Pope+Palpatine=-4.5%2C-6.8&Turtwig=-4.5%2C-7.4&Legspin=-8.3%2C-9.1&Ninja900=-5.3%2C-6.7&Calibos=-7.0%2C10.0&Bluewolf=9.8%2C-7.8&Thedoctor=-1.4%2C-0.8&Absolam=-5.6%2C-2.8&Redfacedbear=-4.3%2C-5.2&Bannasidhe=-6.8%2C-7.3&Skrynesaver=-8.4%2C-4.5&Obliq=-5.4%2C-7.7&Doctor+Doom=-7.0%2C-5.4&Diego+Simeone=-5.0%2C-6.5&Sink=-0.6%2C-5.1&Spacetime=-7.3%2C-8.2&Sw=12.0%2C10.5&Keane=-6.5%2C-6.9&Rughdh=-5.6%2C-8.1&Sciencenerd=-0.8%2C-5.8&Fouxdafafa=-5.4%2C-4.8&Agent+Smith=0.4%2C1.7&Marienbad=-5.9%2C-9.2&Mark+Hamill=-7.0%2C-5.5&Dazmarz=-2.5%2C-1.8&Benny+Cake=-8.8%2C-7.7&Robindch=-4.0%2C-6.4&Brian+Shanahan=-9.5%2C-9.0&Wprathead=-6.5%2C-6.8&Ulysses1874=-3.5%2C-5.4&Gvn=6.9%2C-7.0&Pauldla=-4.9%2C-5.9&Oscarbravo=-4.3%2C-7.5&Blowfish=8.3%2C-6.3&Smacl=-4.1%2C-4.6&name=recedite&ec=-4.75&soc=-1.38

    crowdchart?&Kiwi+In+Ie=-3.6%2C-5.3&The+Chizler=-2.1%2C-4.5&Pherekydes=-6.9%2C-5.9&Sulla+Felix=-3.3%2C-4.8&Orion=-5.6%2C-6.5&Pope+Palpatine=-4.5%2C-6.8&Turtwig=-4.5%2C-7.4&Legspin=-8.3%2C-9.1&Ninja900=-5.3%2C-6.7&Calibos=-7.0%2C10.0&Bluewolf=9.8%2C-7.8&Thedoctor=-1.4%2C-0.8&Absolam=-5.6%2C-2.8&Redfacedbear=-4.3%2C-5.2&Bannasidhe=-6.8%2C-7.3&Skrynesaver=-8.4%2C-4.5&Obliq=-5.4%2C-7.7&Doctor+Doom=-7.0%2C-5.4&Diego+Simeone=-5.0%2C-6.5&Sink=-0.6%2C-5.1&Spacetime=-7.3%2C-8.2&Sw=12.0%2C10.5&Keane=-6.5%2C-6.9&Rughdh=-5.6%2C-8.1&Sciencenerd=-0.8%2C-5.8&Fouxdafafa=-5.4%2C-4.8&Agent+Smith=0.4%2C1.7&Marienbad=-5.9%2C-9.2&Mark+Hamill=-7.0%2C-5.5&Dazmarz=-2.5%2C-1.8&Benny+Cake=-8.8%2C-7.7&Robindch=-4.0%2C-6.4&Brian+Shanahan=-9.5%2C-9.0&Wprathead=-6.5%2C-6.8&Ulysses1874=-3.5%2C-5.4&Gvn=6.9%2C-7.0&Pauldla=-4.9%2C-5.9&Oscarbravo=-4.3%2C-7.5&Blowfish=8.3%2C-6.3&Smacl=-4.1%2C-4.6&name=recedite&ec=-4.75&soc=-1.38

    (Source)

    There are also long running threads that are specifically critical of the left

    See Fully Baked Left Wing Vegan Cookies

    and the right

    See Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

    If you post to this forum with an intransigent right-wing Christian worldview you can expect to have provide a robust and rational defense of any assertions that you might make as they will most likely be diametrically opposed to the established and well considered views held by the majority of regular posters here.


  • #2353
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,038 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    love that my position (SW) was included in the summary :pac:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #2354
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    smacl wrote: »
    While you might trust your instincts, I'll think you'll find most regulars on this forum favour objective evidence. So for example, while you complain about Lefty moderation, the simple fact is that the vast majority of regular visitors to this forum are left leaning liberals;

    (Source)

    That was a really annoying questionnaire as the options were too restrictive, some things I was neutral on and the inability to pick neutral (or I don't care) meant I knew the quiz would skew me way further left wing than I am. I get the impression that such a quiz will make people seem more left or right wing than they actually are. Also I suspect it sways me more to Libertarianism than I am as well, the questions were clearly asked to divide than to get an answer, with many needing a neutral answer to specify you were neither for or against as both positions had equally valid values.


  • #2355
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,911 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Delirium wrote: »
    love that my position (SW) was included in the summary :pac:

    Way to go, making Genghis Khan look like a moderate :pac:


  • #2356
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,911 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    CramCycle wrote: »
    That was a really annoying questionnaire as the options were too restrictive, some things I was neutral on and the inability to pick neutral (or I don't care) meant I knew the quiz would skew me way further left wing than I am. I get the impression that such a quiz will make people seem more left or right wing than they actually are. Also I suspect it sways me more to Libertarianism than I am as well, the questions were clearly asked to divide than to get an answer, with many needing a neutral answer to specify you were neither for or against as both positions had equally valid values.

    Any questionnaires that try to quantify restrictive answers to highly subjective questions are going to effect leading questions. My bigger issue with it, as pointed out at the time, is that of not considering balancing errors due to spread. i.e. someone answering with a mix of hard right and hard left responses can end up with the same score as someone answering entirely with centrist responses.

    That said, from a statistical point of view, I think the conclusion that the majority of responses from this forum indicate a largely liberal left group is still reasonable.


  • #2357
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,363 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Needs to be borne in mind that that is an American survey - what is regarded as 'liberal' or 'far left' there would often be pretty much centrist in Irish or European politics. Especially on social issues like secularism, abortion rights etc. which are a big deal in America for some reason.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #2358
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Needs to be borne in mind that that is an American survey - what is regarded as 'liberal' or 'far left' there would often be pretty much centrist in Irish or European politics. Especially on social issues like secularism, abortion rights etc. which are a big deal in America for some reason.
    This. I think there's an inescapable bias that comes from identify the notional "centre" from which everyone's relative left or right position is expressed, and also from picking the specific questions that will be used as a proxy for general left/right or authoritarian/libertarian sentiment.

    Thus we have the paradox that if I were in the US I would be regarded as a left/liberal, but I may actually vote for a party that in Ireland is regarded as distinctly right of centre. (I suspect that particular combination of characteristics is extremely common.)


  • #2359
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    There is also the other issue that political commentators/columnists in the US go along the lines that Republican = right and Democrats = left whereas in reality, while their base might not be to far off it, those in power for the Democrats are clearly Centre Right. The Simpsons episode done it best when offered the option between Kang and Kodos, the Americans choose enslavement rather than a 3rd party. Americans will never vote Green en masse, even when they have a strong reasonable candidate because of their electoral system and fear of change.


    Anyway, this is miles away from Gemma and John. I see Gemma is doing the honerable thing and avoiding court summons as best she can: https://www.thejournal.ie/gemma-odoherty-high-court-defamation-5172461-Aug2020/


  • #2360
    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    https://twitter.com/n_sweeny/status/1299389877532979201?s=21


  • #2361
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    GO'D suggests that she might become an asylum seeker!

    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1299632847955857409

    In other news, GO'D declares that foreigners and refugees must submit to Irish Law, but Irish Law doesn't apply to her incompletely-perfumed self.


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  • #2362
    lsjmhar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    GO'D Bless All Here!


  • #2363
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    She's gone full mental
    https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1301430738718470145


  • #2364
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,048 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    That's actually very sad to watch. Are herself and John Waters just having the craic to be relevant or do they actually believe this stuff?


  • #2365
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    That's actually very sad to watch. Are herself and John Waters just having the craic to be relevant or do they actually believe this stuff?

    I've said it before but beliefs aside, she has shown, consistently over the last few years all the signs of a mental breakdown. John Waters has shown all the signs of an abuser, it's actually really uncomfortable when you start to see it. In other countries health services would have moved in for her protection.


  • #2366
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    That's actually very sad to watch. Are herself and John Waters just having the craic to be relevant or do they actually believe this stuff?




    They're believers I'd say.


  • #2367
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I've said it before but beliefs aside, she has shown, consistently over the last few years all the signs of a mental breakdown.
    A relative in my own extended family who follows GO'D extensively and avidly appears to be suffering from Behaviour Frontotemporal Dementia (bvFTD) - from the Mayo Clinic:
    Mayo Clinic wrote:
    Behaviour Frontotemporal Dementia is characterized by prominent changes in personality and behavior that often occur in people in their 50s and 60s [...] the nerve cell loss is most prominent in areas that control conduct, judgment, empathy and foresight, among other abilities.


  • #2368
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Colonel My Arse-He hasn't gone away ye know
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2020/09/08/best-served-cold-2/?fbclid=IwAR2kOJ46NpwFIi1qeOWl7PbGMmsdioSdZocPXdzHOA1gcdK5yzRLl9gOD-A


  • #2369
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Our lizard overlords can't handle the truth, it appears.


    Twitter has permanently suspended the account of the conspiracy theorist David Icke.
    A spokesman for the social media platform said Icke had violated its rules regarding coronavirus misinformation.
    The move follows the decision by YouTube and Facebook to terminate Icke’s accounts in early May for the same reason.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/04/twitter-permanently-bans-conspiracy-theorist-david-ickes-account


  • #2370
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Twitter and youtube banned Steve Bannon yesterday after he called for Dr Fauci and the director of the FBI to be executed and their heads impaled on stakes.

    https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1324471538310127618


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  • #2371
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    And in Irish news, Declan Ganley is taking a case to the High Court to overturn the ban on religious worship, or presumably, catholic mass anyway:

    https://www.irishcatholic.com/breaking-news-court-challenge-to-ban-on-public-mass/
    Irish Catholic wrote:
    Irish entrepreneur Declan Ganley has begun a constitutional challenge to the ban on attending Mass and other religious ceremonies.

    Co. Galway-based Mr Ganley, who has been a vocal critic on social media of the ban on Mass, initiated judicial review proceedings against Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly and the State on Thursday and the matter was mentioned in court this morning (Friday). The Irish Catholic understands that the court postponed the matter until next month.

    It comes as Primate of All-Ireland Archbishop Eamon Martin used a column in The Irish Catholicto urge Catholics to write to their elected representatives calling for restrictions on Masses and other religious ceremonies to be eased. Archbishop Eamon said that “In making the case for public worship at all stages of lockdown we are not claiming special privilege over other places – like gyms, restaurants or sports. We are simply stating the fact that, for Christians, gathering to worship God is not an optional extra – it is a profound expression of who we are as individual spiritual beings and as Church. The communal celebration of Mass and the sacraments is an essential source of nourishment and well-being which is not only positive for individuals, but is also healthy for community resilience and for social cohesion,” the archbishop wrote.

    Mr Ganley’s legal time is expected to argue before the High Court that the State’s Covid-19 restrictions preventing public worship is unconstitutional since Bunreacht na hÉireann enshrines the right to worship as a key part of religious freedom.

    North of the border, the authorities have not prevented people from attending Mass and other religious ceremonies. The restrictions in the Republic are amongst the most draconian in the world.


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