Covid 19 Part XXII-30,360 in ROI(1,781 deaths) 8,035 in NI (568 deaths)(10/09)Read OP

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is an Australian nurse living in our locality. At the start of the pandemic in Ireland, she was told that she could do a course over 2 weekends to make her eligible to work as a nurse in Irish hospitals, as there was a shortage of essential workers anticipated. The course cost €3,000 and was run in the Royal College of Surgeons. she did the course and hasn't been called upon once to do any nursing.

She is now eligible to work in Ireland so could apply for nursing jobs or join an agency and get work that way
She would need to make herself available rather than thinking a hospital will phone her .

owlbethere wrote: »

It's not just about survival from this virus. There's possibly of a long term illness from this virus. Death doesn't scare me as such. Becoming incapacitated especially at my age, that does scare me.

The solution is to follow the guidelines that are set out. I don't feel deprived by keeping my close contacts low this summer and I had some fantastic experiences. I'm also getting on with life but also doing my best to be as safe as possible.

Any virus has the possibility of long term effects exactly like covid does and people still go on with their lives without worrying for the most part. Its not anything new.

Deleted User wrote: »

Great to hear DeGascun is looking into saliva tests. Common sense prevailing. The dogs on the street know this a no brainer. The public is demanding mass testing without the need for gold standard testing and all the lab work that goes with it. Not going to happen over night, but important he is signalling this is an area that should be explored.There will be the critics, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Proceed as we are currently with this as a medium term goal.

Saliva test still has to be sent to the lab, DeGascun looking at using Saliva tests rather than swab because it’s less invasive especially for kids.

https://www.q102.ie/news/q102-news/coronavirus-147-new-cases-73-in-dublin/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/experts-examine-less-invasive-covid-19-testing-for-children-1.4327711


The Yale saliva test the dogs on the street think is a no brainer...yep goes to the lab.

One of the benefits of SalivaDirect is its simple design. Basically, a patient spits into any sterilized container—a special vial is not needed—and hands the sample over to a medical professional. The sample is then sent to a lab for processing.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/stories/5-things-saliva-covid-19-test/

Deleted User wrote: »

Great to hear DeGascun is looking into saliva tests. Common sense prevailing. The dogs on the street know this a no brainer. The public is demanding mass testing without the need for gold standard testing and all the lab work that goes with it. Not going to happen over night, but important he is signalling this is an area that should be explored.There will be the critics, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Proceed as we are currently with this as a medium term goal.

missed that.. when did he refer to them tv or print? thanks

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations update,

22 covid patients in hosptial. Down 6 on last night.

5 in ICU (down 1), 3 on ventilators (up 1)

1 case confirmed in hospital today and that was in Mullingar

Drop as expected, couple of discharges from UHL and Tallaght. Should drop even lower by Wednesday as usual.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Drop as expected, couple of discharges from UHL and Tallaght. Should drop even lower by Wednesday as usual.

The drama among some posters on here last night because of increase of 8 was unnecessary.

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-ireland-glynn-sounds-note-of-caution-about-cases-increasing-in-dublin-1.4337667?mode=amp



That is criminal.

Why is that criminal?

mandrake04 wrote: »

Saliva test still has to be sent to the lab, DeGascun looking at using Saliva tests rather than swab because it’s less invasive especially for kids.

https://www.q102.ie/news/q102-news/coronavirus-147-new-cases-73-in-dublin/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/experts-examine-less-invasive-covid-19-testing-for-children-1.4327711


https://www.yalemedicine.org/stories/5-things-saliva-covid-19-test/

My apologies, I think I said Yale on my last post on this, I meant Harvard and Michael Mina epidemiologist and e25Bio at Cambridge, their saliva tests hence some crossed wires here.
They were what the original links to the I posted referred to, however he does mention the other type in the video along with later thepooled testing another potential idea.



https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/how-to-test-every-american-for-covid-19-every-day/615217/


''Such tests exist—and have existed since April—and they are made by e25 Bio, a 12-person company in Cambridge. An e25 test is a paper strip, a few inches long and less than an inch wide. It needs only some spit, a saline solution, and a small cup—and it can deliver a result in 15 minutes. Like a pregnancy test, the strip has a faint line across its lower third. If you expose the strip to a sample and it fills in with color, then the test is positive. It does not require a machine, a reagent, or a doctor to work.


Its unusual quality is that it does not look for the same antigen as other tests. Instead of identifying nucleocapsid, the e25 test is keyed to something on the outside of the virus. It reacts to the presence of the coronavirus’s distinctive spike protein, the structure on the virus’s “skin” that allows it to hook onto and enter human cells. “I think we’re the only company in North America that has developed a spike antigen test,” Bobby Brooke Herrera, e25’s co-founder and chief executive, told us.


This has several advantages. It means, first, that the e25 test does not have to rupture the virus, which is why it doesn’t need reagents. And it means, second, that the e25 test is actually looking for something more relevant than the virus’s genetic material. The spike protein is the coronavirus’s most important structure—it plays a large part in determining the virus’s infectiousness, and it’s what both antibodies and many vaccine prototypes target—and its presence is a good proxy for the health of the virus generally. “We’ve developed our test to detect live viruses, or, in other words, spike protein,” Herrera said.


Working with two manufacturers, e25 thinks that it could make 4 million tests a month as soon as it receives FDA approval. Within six weeks of approval, it could make 20 million to 40 million tests a month. In short, e25 could single-handedly add as many as 1.2 million tests a day to the national total.''


thanks for the links re the kids and saliva tests yes those do still need processing but at least they are less traumatic for kids (some adults too) and less exposure for healthcare professionals. I was wondering how the the government had got a hold of the tests I was refering too, now it all makes sense.

s1ippy wrote: »

Didn't the last half a year happen to anyone else in this thread?

So now children with symptoms are only supposed to be monitored *for 48 hours, not tested.

What could possibly go wrong.

How's full pay at home going?

Good I guess.