Tipping when eating out.

22-08-2020 06:20PM

Obama Bin Larkin wrote: »

You must be a serious tight arse if you won't give a tip for a good service at the end of a meal.

Most people here do tip and have tipped for good service. But I'm beginning to see a push for Americanised system from some posters here of always tipping and it being in the region of 15 to 20%. That is not something I'd like to see here.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:20PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

For me it's the whole experience. The waiter can be the nicest in the world but if the food is crap or the service bad then I'd leave a smaller tip or no tip at all. I'd also hope that tips are shared with the kitchen staff etc.

Right bit you must see how random that is. You tip the waiter for something that they didn't control and don't tip the waiter if they do a great job but other people didn't. Like, you see how random that is, don't you?

Samuel T. Cogley · 22-08-2020 06:25PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Right bit you must see how random that is. You tip the waiter for something these they didn't control and don't tip the Winster I'd they do a great job but other people didn't. Like, you see how random that is, don't you?

Many customs are pretty random.

Ultrflat · 22-08-2020 06:26PM

If you tip any lower then 10% on after a meal your a tight arse.

Feenix · 22-08-2020 06:34PM

I worked in bars & restaurants when I was younger. It’s a good buzz when you get a nice tip. I was probably an automatic 10%er but I live in the city centre and the service is ****e most of the time and seems to be getting worse so I don’t bother if it’s bad or average. I’d rarely get food from a pub In town but I think you can be guaranteed poor service for one reason or another. I’ve found that not to be the case in other parts of the country.
There’s a couple of Italian restaurants I go to occasionally. The staff are all Italian and have been working there for as long as I’ve been going. They are very good at their job and seem to genuinely care about about the customers experience. They’re guaranteed to get a tip from me.

22-08-2020 06:42PM

Ultrflat wrote: »

If you tip any lower then 10% on after a meal your a tight arse.

A fool and their money are easily parted.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:46PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Many customs are pretty random.

Yeah and taking part is completely optional. If you enjoy tipping, go ahead. If not, don't

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:53PM

RasTa wrote: »

No drinks for you. I do laugh at the supermarket comparison some make. Like somehow it's the same thing

The supermarket till person's comparable to the barstaff. You have comparable time in one on one interaction with the person at the checkout as the bar staff. It just highlights the randomness of tipping some service staff and not others. It's a meaningless convention and you've convinced yourself it's got an obvious right/wrong.

Alejandro68 · 22-08-2020 06:57PM

One of my jobs is in a restaurant.And I have seen the craziness waitstaff have to deal with on a daily basis.So I do tip every time I eat out.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What about a clothes shop where you had staff going out back a few times to get your size. Or a shoe shop.

Interested to see responses to this from peope who think it's obviously correct to tip...

El Tarangu · 22-08-2020 07:09PM

dinneenp wrote: »

"10 to 20%"

20% is extremely generous, the waiter would want to be amazing for this. If I could get 20% I'd give up the day job & become a waiter....

Mental... the idea of tipping 20% comes from America, where a server's salary might be something like $15 a day, not $15 an hour like they are in Ireland.

(I've worked as a server in America, where I certainly tipped 20% - no way would I tip anywhere near that here).

RasTa wrote: »

No, because they don't bring my food to my table, top up my glass. Clear plates from my table etc.

Basic stuff here. The barman, waiters and the barber all deserve to be tipped every single time.

How many bars in Ireland does a barman bring the drinks to your table? What's the difference between a barman taking your money and handing you your drink at the counter, and someone in McDonald's taking your money and handing you your food at the counter? (other than that fact that the barman earns more money).

I tip my barman at Christmas.

smurfjed · 22-08-2020 08:10PM

I believe in what goes around comes around, so i always tip, admittedly the last tip that I got for doing my job was €800, but the one before that was €3400.

I love my much higher than minimum wage job.

RasTa · 22-08-2020 08:22PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The supermarket till person's comparable to the barstaff. You have comparable time in one on one interaction with the person at the checkout as the bar staff. It just highlights the randomness of tipping some service staff and not others. It's a meaningless convention and you've convinced yourself it's got an obvious right/wrong.

Haha, That's a good one. Yes the supermarket worker and a barman are the exact same.

El Tarangu wrote: »

Mental... the idea of tipping 20% comes from America, where a server's salary might be something like $15 a day, not $15 an hour like they are in Ireland.

(I've worked as a server in America, where I certainly tipped 20% - no way would I tip anywhere near that here).

How many bars in Ireland does a barman bring the drinks to your table? What's the difference between a barman taking your money and handing you your drink at the counter, and someone in McDonald's taking your money and handing you your food at the counter? (other than that fact that the barman earns more money).

I tip my barman at Christmas.

I don't eat in McDonalds. I'd tell the take away person to keep the change.

Dealer in the casino would get a good tip too. That was awhile ago though. Say if you won the tourney for 2k you would leave behind 200.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 08:29PM

RasTa wrote: »

Haha, That's a good one. Yes the supermarket worker and a barman are the exact same.

Yeah, they're comparable. That's what I said. What's your point? Why tip one and not the other apart from social convention?

RasTa · 22-08-2020 08:31PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah, they're comparable. That's what I said. What's your point? Why tip one and not the other apart from social convention?

No they are not and if you can't see the difference than there is no point explaining to you.

22-08-2020 08:34PM

Service was good? Round up to approx 10%.

I'm ok with it but I do understand people bring a little confused why a waiter gets a tip or a taxi but a barman, McDonald's, mechanic don't

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 08:38PM

RasTa wrote: »

No they are not and if you can't see the difference than there is no point explaining to you.

I think a bar staff and a till worker are comparable. If it's obvious to you it should be easy to explain. If you're bluffing and you can't explain why they're not comparable, just say so...

El Tarangu · 22-08-2020 08:52PM

RasTa wrote: »

Haha, That's a good one. Yes the supermarket worker and a barman are the exact same.

Fair enough.

Obviously its your money, and more power to you, but while I can understand the notion of tipping a waiter or waitress who is running back and forth catering to your needs, or tipping a barber, as they have been giving you their undivided attention for 20-30 mins, the notion of tipping someone for the privilege of having to get up, walk to the bar, queue, and carry the drinks back yourself, seems strange to me.

Jizique · 22-08-2020 08:53PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Inspired by the other tips thread. What's the story with tips when eating in a restaurant?

I tend to leave about 10% of the bill.

Depends on the price of the wine

RasTa · 22-08-2020 08:56PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think a bar staff and a till worker are comparable. If it's obvious to you it should be easy to explain. If you're bluffing and you can't explain why they're not comparable, just say so...

I'm not wasting my time. It's the first time I've heard someone say it and then double down.

Heckler · 23-08-2020 04:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would have a problem with that. You are not tipping for good service there, you are paying to be served at all. Paying someone who is already getting paid for the job.

Not saying its right but it was the reality. It was the Oktoberfest, Not a time to be mangy with the bobs.

Ultrflat · 23-08-2020 06:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A fool and their money are easily parted.

Probably still have your communion money :rolleyes:

El_Duderino 09 · 23-08-2020 11:53AM

RasTa wrote: »

I'm not wasting my time. It's the first time I've heard someone say it and then double down.

Sure it's a new idea to you and if you could articulate the reasons why they're not comparable, you'd just do it. You can't articulate why there not comparable so you haven't don't it.

You've suggested it's too easy to articulate but you haven't actually been able to do it. Something to think about.

Pkiernan · 23-08-2020 11:54AM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Do ye tip the barber after a hair chop

Yes

El_Duderino 09 · 23-08-2020 11:59AM

Pkiernan wrote: »

Yes

Assuming a tip is for doing something beyond the basic job description, What are you tipping a barber for?

RasTa · 23-08-2020 12:01PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Sure it's a new idea to you and if you could articulate the reasons why they're not comparable, you'd just do it. You can't articulate why there not comparable so you haven't don't it.

You've suggested it's too easy to articulate but you haven't actually been able to do it. Something to think about.

Yup, You've won. Well done. I will forever be thinking about it.

Enjoy not tipping anybody.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-08-2020 12:05PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yup, You've won. Well done. I will forever be thinking about it.

Enjoy not tipping anybody.

Sure. If you ever think of a reason why barstaff and tesco till workers aren't comparable re tipping, be sure to let us know.

Pkiernan · 23-08-2020 12:26PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Assuming a tip is for doing something beyond the basic job description, What are you tipping a barber for?

1. I'm not a cheap bastard.
2. Some guy has to root around my head, cut my hair, and trim my ears and eyebrows.
3. I'm not a cheap bastard.

donegal_man · 23-08-2020 12:31PM

Why are some people getting so exercised about others leaving a tip? It's your money, tip or don't, your choice. I've yet to see a non tipping customer get chased down the street by a cleaver wielding waiter!
Speaking as someone who spent several summers working as a waiter I'd say that a tip was always appreciated and yes we remembered those who were more likely to leave "a little something". However, what was even more important was to be treated with respect and not just as an automaton that brought food and drink. Obviously I'm not saying we expected customers to engage in conversation but "good evening" "please" and "thank you" were more likely to ensure alacrity than snapped fingers.
Finally I never add the tip on to the bill, as based on personal experience and discrete conversations with hotel/restaurant staff it rarely if ever reaches them.

the_pen_turner · 23-08-2020 01:47PM

donegal_man wrote: »

Why are some people getting so exercised about others leaving a tip? It's your money, tip or don't, your choice. I've yet to see a non tipping customer get chased down the street by a cleaver wielding waiter!
Speaking as someone who spent several summers working as a waiter I'd say that a tip was always appreciated and yes we remembered those who were more likely to leave "a little something". However, what was even more important was to be treated with respect and not just as an automaton that brought food and drink. Obviously I'm not saying we expected customers to engage in conversation but "good evening" "please" and "thank you" were more likely to ensure alacrity than snapped fingers.
Finally I never add the tip on to the bill, as based on personal experience and discrete conversations with hotel/restaurant staff it rarely if ever reaches them.

I dont care what people do with their money. Just like they should not care about mine. The problem is that you get people throwing around words like bum, scumbag, tight arse , stinge etc
You can throw your money around anyway you like but dont just other for not being like you.
I tip for exceptional service that goes beyond what is expected and part if the bill. . That almost never happens. There is very little that a waiter can do to deserve a tip. Doing their job doesn't warrant a tip

Tipping when eating out.

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