Tipping when eating out.

DVDM93 · 20-08-2020 10:59PM

poisonated wrote: »

Are you on drugs?

it's a scene from the movie Reservoir Dogs, I posted the video a few pages back if you want to have a look.

BorneTobyWilde · 20-08-2020 11:08PM

5 euro is plenty, a waitress will probably get 5 euro from 10 people a day or more, soon adds up.

murpho999 · 20-08-2020 11:47PM

gmisk wrote: »

I tend to always tip unless service is poor 10-15 percent roughly.
I have been a waiter before so I feel their pain!

What pain? Dealing with the public?

Is waiting tables the only job that does this and what's so bad about it?

Do you tip doctors and nurses in hospitals? That seems a difficult job to me.

Also why add 15% tax onto your food that is already not cheap anyway and the waiting staff are getting paid at least minimum wage?

andekwarhola · 21-08-2020 12:32AM

Always give 10-15%.

I've zero interest in conducting a forensic debate about the ins and outs of it. I don't eat out as much these days and when I do, it's a act of social largesse that I'm fine with. Maybe there's an unconscious sociability about being served food and drink in a social setting, who knows, or indeed, who cares.

My money; my choice although if I didn't want to part with the money, I'd just simply do that, rather than get into the mental acrobatics of thesis-level comparative analysis about minimum wage jobs.

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2020 08:21AM

murpho999 wrote: »

What pain? Dealing with the public?

Is waiting tables the only job that does this and what's so bad about it?

Do you tip doctors and nurses in hospitals? That seems a difficult job to me.

Also why add 15% tax onto your food that is already not cheap anyway and the waiting staff are getting paid at least minimum wage?

Plenty of lazy nurses and they earn trebble what many waitresses earn

theteal · 21-08-2020 08:41AM

What's this % bo11ocks? It takes the same effort to feed my family whether I'm spending £30 or £130. Either way I'll check the wallet and we'll leave a few pound coins on the table, if we've got none we wont - and the wife will give a guilty look for all of 2 seconds, no sleep lost. A few quid from each table makes a very profitable shift for the staff, I remember when Beamish was £1.88, those 12p tips really added up.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Plenty of lazy nurses and they earn trebble what many waitresses earn

Eh, for the hours worked I think you'll find that nurses probably dont get paid more. I know the wife has oft mentioned packing it in for an easy job that pays more.

Allinall · 21-08-2020 08:44AM

Renno123 wrote: »

Absolutely. And I always thank the staff when leaving.

That's fair enough.

I leave a tip. They appreciate it more.

Pkiernan · 21-08-2020 08:52AM

I tried tipping a nurse E50 when she helped my dad in hospital.
She refused to take the money.

SteM · 21-08-2020 08:59AM

Allinall wrote: »

That's fair enough.

I leave a tip. They appreciate it more.

Of course they appreciate it more. We'd all appreciate being paid extra on top of our basic wage, doesn't happen in most industries through.

Pkiernan · 21-08-2020 09:01AM

Theres always one or two miserable folk.

GarIT · 21-08-2020 09:04AM

I had a friend that was a waiter in a higher class place, made 70k per year, most of it untaxed because not declaring tips. Therefore I don't tip.

Pkiernan · 21-08-2020 09:10AM

GarIT wrote: »

I had a friend that was a waiter in a higher class place, made 70k per year, most of it untaxed because not declaring tips. Therefore I don't tip.

That's an After Hours BS stories thread contender!

GarIT · 21-08-2020 09:13AM

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

I’m not surprised to see the usual sexist “pig” remarks about some of the female waiting staff.

I always tip when I eat in a nice restaurant, usually around 15-20%. A little bit more if our server is a waitress rather than a waiter. It’s my small contribution towards closing the gender pay gap.

The gender pay gap in the service industry is that men earn less than women.

Captain Havoc · 21-08-2020 09:14AM

I've worked in hospitality for over twenty years. For the past few years I have gone back waiting tables. I think it is far more important to be nice and treat good waiters with a respect than leave a tip. Tips are always welcome and I do tip when I am out, how as ever, I understand why people don't. It is not correct to judge people for not tipping, they may be just treating themselves to night out. I work in a pub that serves food, so tips are not great. I have worked in hotels where tips have been much higher.

Many years ago, I was a food and beverage manager and most waiters would be earning as much as me due to the tips they were getting, that annoyed me as I got a degree in hotel management and waiters were earning more than me, I know that is snobby but it's a kick in the balls to spend four years in college and I may as well not have bothered going as I was working more hours and getting the same pay. I have also worked as a manager in a place where the management got the lions share of the tips but I disagreed with this and I wasn't popular when I suggested decreasing the percentage. Another place I worked gave out the tips at the end of the month, spread between everyone but I ended up getting sfa as it was divided by so many and I'm certain management were dipping. Where I work at the moment, we keep our own tips which is great and it is an incentive to try harder.

GarIT · 21-08-2020 09:16AM

Pkiernan wrote: »

That's an After Hours BS stories thread contender!

It's not really, just did the maths, that's only 250 a night 4 nights a week, there are a few exclusive places in Ireland where a bill for dinner could come to 1k. Assuming the bills aren't even that high, it's only a €50 tip from 5 tables or €25 from 10 tables in a place where it wouldn't be uncommon to see Ireland's richest and celebrities.

Even €10 tips could easily exceed 10k per year, and with it not being taxed as it's usually not declared it's the equivalent of earning 20k per year extra.

murpho999 · 21-08-2020 09:32AM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Plenty of lazy nurses and they earn trebble what many waitresses earn

So now you can decide what nurses are lazy? Also I think you think that nurses are paid way more than what they are.

Anyway , the point is it's not the public's job to supplement people earn and that's why there's legislation for minimum wages. Most are student types anyway.
If they are career waiters then either they earn well or if not they can get supplementary welfare etc.

charlietheminxx · 21-08-2020 09:41AM

I always leave a tip, but I don't go into the American percentage model. They get a fiver or a tenner when I'm out with the OH, maybe 20 if it's a group. It's just a way of saying "thanks for looking after us well".

I always tip delivery drivers as well, usually 2 euro a pop.

21-08-2020 10:21AM

GarIT wrote: »

It's not really, just did the maths, that's only 250 a night 4 nights a week, there are a few exclusive places in Ireland where a bill for dinner could come to 1k. Assuming the bills aren't even that high, it's only a €50 tip from 5 tables or €25 from 10 tables in a place where it wouldn't be uncommon to see Ireland's richest and celebrities.

.......

Probably less then 0.1% of waiters work in such places so it's really a huge outlier.

GarIT wrote: »

Even €10 tips could easily exceed 10k per year, and with it not being taxed as it's usually not declared it's the equivalent of earning 20k per year extra.

If you are on the minimum wage 10k in tips is not the equivalent of earning 20k per year extra.

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2020 11:46AM

theteal wrote: »

What's this % bo11ocks? It takes the same effort to feed my family whether I'm spending £30 or £130. Either way I'll check the wallet and we'll leave a few pound coins on the table, if we've got none we wont - and the wife will give a guilty look for all of 2 seconds, no sleep lost. A few quid from each table makes a very profitable shift for the staff, I remember when Beamish was £1.88, those 12p tips really added up.

Contary to the received wisdom, nurses are well paid

Eh, for the hours worked I think you'll find that nurses probably dont get paid more. I know the wife has oft mentioned packing it in for an easy job that pays more.

Contary to received wisdom, nurses are well paid, like guards, they often play the poor mouth, better PR strategy

Mad_maxx · 21-08-2020 11:48AM

murpho999 wrote: »

So now you can decide what nurses are lazy? Also I think you think that nurses are paid way more than what they are.

Anyway , the point is it's not the public's job to supplement people earn and that's why there's legislation for minimum wages. Most are student types anyway.
If they are career waiters then either they earn well or if not they can get supplementary welfare etc.

I've seen plenty of lazy individuals in nursing down the years, that's all I said

Agricola · 21-08-2020 11:54AM

Generally don't do it. To my mind, the American tipping model is based on the idea that the staff will go over and above doing the bare minimum for you. In Ireland, the bare minimum is the norm because staff aren't depending on tips. Take your order, bring the food in a timely fashion and you might be lucky to be asked once if everything is ok.
In an already high cost country where the staff get a minimum wage, I don't believe its necessary for tipping to be de facto mandatory.

Of course there's been plenty of times when the experience has been really good and the staff can't do enough for you or are very accomodating with tricky orders etc and for that I'll always tip.

21-08-2020 12:04PM

My Dad always (unless food or service was brutal I suppose) gave a small tip to waiting staff when we used to go out for dinner growing up. We wouldn't have been wealthy or anything so I always reckoned it was the done thing to an extent in Ireland. My Dad was never in America

dinneenp · 21-08-2020 12:07PM

Most people have become accustomed to tipping about 10% without even thinking. If the service is bad, don't tip & mention it to the manager so that they can take it as constructive criticism/feedback.

If the waiter goes above & beyond, is very friendly etc. I'll tip generously.

riclad · 21-08-2020 12:18PM

its supposed to be 10-20 per cent of the bill,
If you pay by credit card you don,t know will the staff get the tip,
or will most of it go to the owner of the restaurant.
we are in the middle of a pandemic ,
i doubt if nurses are lazy, also they are putting their life at risk every time they see a new patient .
Just wearing all the ppe masks and gowns is not comfortable and its stressful if you work in ER dealing with drug addicts and drunk people .
i think most staff in restaurants apart from the chef are on low wages.
Of course with apple pay etc many people do not pay in cash in restaurants .

dinneenp · 21-08-2020 12:20PM

riclad wrote: »

its supposed to be 10-20 per cent of the bill,
If you pay by credit card you don,t know will the staff get the tip,
or will most of it go to the owner of the restaurant.
we are in the middle of a pandemic ,
i doubt if nurses are lazy, also they are putting their life at risk every time they see a new patient .
Just wearing all the ppe masks and gowns is not comfortable and its stressful if you work in ER dealing with drug addicts and drunk people .
i think most staff in restaurants apart from the chef are on low wages.
Of course with apple pay etc many people do not pay in cash in restaurants .

"10 to 20%"

20% is extremely generous, the waiter would want to be amazing for this. If I could get 20% I'd give up the day job & become a waiter....

21-08-2020 12:36PM

riclad wrote: »

its supposed to be 10-20 per cent of the bill,
If you pay by credit card you don,t know will the staff get the tip,
.......

I pay for the vast majority of things with CC but I tip in cash.

CertifiedSimp · 21-08-2020 12:38PM

The only time I tip is if I'm with people who might think it's rude not to tip.

Price of service is included in the price of the meal.

B.A._Baracus · 21-08-2020 12:43PM

Tipping while eating out?
Why should I? ... She's getting all the fun.

Oh wait.....

Mango Joe · 21-08-2020 12:48PM

I'd give a few quid directly to the waiting staff if they seemed any way helpful.

Would hope it would be a small perk for them in an otherwise thankless and stressful job as they continue their studies or whatever else they have going on.

I'd always hope it would 100% go to them and not the Restaurant Owner or Manager.

I very strongly dislike the whole process of being asked to pay a gratuity on a card machine that goes directly into the Owners Bank Account!!!

riclad · 21-08-2020 03:00PM

i think the point of tips is to reward the staff for good service .
and i think most of the staff in a cafe are on a low wage.
if the service is bad or slow you can just give zero tips .

Tipping when eating out.

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