Tipping when eating out.

RasTa · 22-08-2020 01:31PM

Lad, you are getting annoyed at me leaving a tip.

That says all I need to know, have a word with yourself.

HBC08 · 22-08-2020 01:33PM

RasTa wrote: »

Lad, you are getting annoyed at me leaving a tip.

That says all I need to know, have a word with yourself.

Nope,
Your rationale is all over the shop and you called people who dont tip bums (even though you don't tip yourself in many situations)

GarIT · 22-08-2020 01:34PM

RasTa wrote: »

My barber is £9 quid, usually give him £12. He doesn't say a word when cutting my hair and I always feel bad for whatever reason when someone has to cut my hair.

Waiters get paid the same or less than say a supermarket worker. If they came around with me whilst I done my daily shop and picked the stuff etc they would get a tip too. I use self service checkouts.

Bar stuff work long hours and deal with drunks, a quid per drink isn't going to hurt me.

You mean the same or more?

Geuze · 22-08-2020 01:36PM

riclad wrote: »

its supposed to be 10-20 per cent of the bill,

15-20% is for the USA, where the min wage for staff receiving tips is lower than the regular min wage.

US federal min wage = 7.25

(most states have higher min wages, national average = 11.80)

Tipping job = 2.13

RasTa · 22-08-2020 01:39PM

GarIT wrote: »

You mean the same or more?

Aldi, Lidl and the likes would pay over minimum wage.

Most waiters would be on minimum wage.

Also most people would tip their postman at Christmas, same for teachers. It's nice to say thanks people.

titan18 · 22-08-2020 01:48PM

Generally do, but amount will depend on service and what the amount comes to without the tip. Not a set percentage.

Like with barber, when it came to 13 euro, I just gave 15 with the tip. Then they increased to 15 and I didnt give one.

For food, if I was ordering a pizza and drink in a restaurant, it usually comes to 16/17 euro, so would just give 20

KaneToad · 22-08-2020 01:54PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Why would you run to a Government who are taking taking taking, and look to give give give

'' I got a 5 in a tip how do I give you your cut '' It simulates the economy, that is enough.

Because it's an income and we all have to pay tax on our income. Why should service staff be any different?

EmmetSpiceland · 22-08-2020 02:03PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

"Firing a few quid AT someone". Groan. The disrespect in "firing" and "throwing" money AT people is so disheartening to see. Firing money AT people for the sake of being seen to fire money AT people. So Celtic Tiger.

You seem to have a serious “beef” with what other people do with their money. It’s not a big deal for me to take €20 from my money clip and leave it with the bill receipt, or given directly to my server.

Sure, I could understand you might get annoyed if I “slip” someone a fifty to get your table but, if that’s happened, well, you should have been on time.

How I spend my money should be no concern of yours. I like to “reward” good service, that’s my business.

Next you’ll be on me for putting €2 in a beggar‘s cup. You keep yours and save up for a new pair of fingerless gloves.

Sardonicat · 22-08-2020 02:13PM

RasTa wrote: »

Aldi, Lidl and the likes would pay over minimum wage.

Most waiters would be on minimum wage.

Also most people would tip their postman at Christmas, same for teachers. It's nice to say thanks people.

Tipping teachers? Not a chance!

RasTa · 22-08-2020 02:18PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Tipping teachers? Not a chance!

They get presents, same thing. Posties always get booze from the ladies.

The White Wolf · 22-08-2020 02:22PM

MrKingsley wrote: »

Work in service and completely understand when a family/friends or couple are just out for a simple dinner not tipping. Its my job to serve the tables

However when there’s a (Generally rude) table that has you running around the place(at the expense of other customers) and requesting things every two minutes then I would expect one.

However it always works out the other way. The nice, polite, unassuming customers tip. The other shower rarely do

Fair play to you, I'd lose my mind if I had to serve the finger clicking types. Every time my job has me stressed, hearing sh1t like the above manages to calm me. Someone always has it worse.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 02:27PM

RasTa wrote: »

Waiters get the biggest tips, bar staff the least. For whatever reason they can't pour or serve more than one person at a time.

It would have to be really bad to not get a tip. I haven't experienced it yet, CS is generally miles better in the UK

You're an easy mark. If you tip for every service you've ever had from a bar staff practically everyone else doesn’t tip, then what's the point of it?

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 02:34PM

RasTa wrote: »

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My barber is £9 quid, usually give him £12. He doesn't say a word when cutting my hair and I always feel bad for whatever reason when someone has to cut my hair.

Waiters get paid the same or less than say a supermarket worker. If they came around with me whilst I done my daily shop and picked the stuff etc they would get a tip too. I use self service checkouts.

Bar stuff work long hours and deal with drunks, a quid per drink isn't going to hurt me.

So you pay because of the awkwardness you experience of having someone cut your hair and you don't know why you feel that awkwardness I mean, that must be very strange to read that back to yourself. I pay for all the services i use. I don't pay any optional (or imaginary) surcharge because I felt awkward using the service.

In any case I'll rest assured, not tipping a barber does not make someone a bum. Feeling awkward for having someone cut my hair might make you a bit odd though. It's fine if you can elevate your awkwardness by paying extra, but that's on you. Not feeling awkward and not tipping does not make me a bum. I just pay the agreed price.

Homelander · 22-08-2020 02:35PM

RasTa wrote: »

Waiters get paid the same or less than say a supermarket worker. If they came around with me whilst I done my daily shop and picked the stuff etc they would get a tip too. I use self service checkouts.

Your logic seems to be that a job that involves direct customer interaction automatically deserves a tip regardless of the quality of a service.

Why? Where do you draw the line at arbitrarily rewarding people?

Because if you're gonna give a waiter/barman an automatic tip, surely it makes logical sense to tip every single minimum wage worker you encounter in the service industry.

Tipping should be in recognition of a good service and quality product. So if you get a haircut and it's the best you've ever gotten, or your waiter is exceptionally nice and helpful, the food is amazing, or some helpful lad in B&Q helped you carry flat pack furniture to your car....absolutely fine.

But the whole automatic tipping thing - and the inference that anyone who doesn't is a bum/miser - is nonsensical

BagheeraBlue · 22-08-2020 02:38PM

absolute simps tip

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 02:39PM

The idea of awkwardness at receiving a service is interesting. It's kind of built into the language in Ireland. Lots of people apologies as they get a waiter's attention and meekly say "sorry". The awkwardness is there to see.

I don't feel that awkwardness and I wouldn't pay tuppence for feeling it. I just treat waiters as professionals and get on with the transaction, politely.

Geuze · 22-08-2020 02:41PM

Yes, I do feel a bit (not much) awkward around the issue of tipping.

It's the uncertainty that gets to me.

Heckler · 22-08-2020 03:09PM

I always tip for good service and always tip someone I'd use often like my mechanic. Nothing altruistic about it. You get remembered.

In places like the US you tip the barman and you're never waiting to be served.

Paying a heap for a holiday whats a few dollars here and there. Waiting staff especially in the States won't leave you wanting if you're tipping.

Made the mistake once of not tipping the server at the Munich Oktoberfest. Our glasses were long drained before she came back to us. Didn't happen again !

22-08-2020 04:16PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah I'm not a bum so I leave a tip.

This thread is convincing be to abandon tips altogether unless in exceptional circumstances.

Do you tip the supermarket worker or someone on a clothes shop or shoe shop. Why should someone carrying you a plate of food they didn't even cook get a tip. Never mind the ridiculous 20% figure.

Outkast_IRE · 22-08-2020 04:19PM

If it's a good restaurant and the table service is very good about 10% is fair .

If the service is poor or I'm left waiting too long for anything then nothing . Tipping in Ireland should only be for excellent service.

In the USA in the tourist areas the service staff have it down to a fine art in alot of cases cause it's their main income . They can almost anticipate what you need etc.

Hamsterchops · 22-08-2020 04:21PM

100% agree with #141.

22-08-2020 04:31PM

Heckler wrote: »

Made the mistake once of not tipping the server at the Munich Oktoberfest. Our glasses were long drained before she came back to us. Didn't happen again !

I would have a problem with that. You are not tipping for good service there, you are paying to be served at all. Paying someone who is already getting paid for the job.

22-08-2020 04:34PM

SlowMotion321 wrote: »

Generally 10% ONLY if the service is good! If they can't be arsed to do their job well I can't be arsed to reward that!

Same as that. Too many people automatically tip and that just rewards ****e behaviour.

RasTa · 22-08-2020 05:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I would have a problem with that. You are not tipping for good service there, you are paying to be served at all. Paying someone who is already getting paid for the job.

No drinks for you. I do laugh at the supermarket comparison some make. Like somehow it's the same thing

job seeker · 22-08-2020 05:49PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

A few cents if I happen to have change on me the odd time.

Make sure you keep some for the collection basket! :P

22-08-2020 05:50PM

RasTa wrote: »

No drinks for you. I do laugh at the supermarket comparison some make. Like somehow it's the same thing

What about a clothes shop where you had staff going out back a few times to get your size. Or a shoe shop.

rob316 · 22-08-2020 06:08PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You seem to have a serious “beef” with what other people do with their money. It’s not a big deal for me to take €20 from my money clip and leave it with the bill receipt, or given directly to my server.

Sure, I could understand you might get annoyed if I “slip” someone a fifty to get your table but, if that’s happened, well, you should have been on time.

How I spend my money should be no concern of yours. I like to “reward” good service, that’s my business.

Next you’ll be on me for putting €2 in a beggar‘s cup. You keep yours and save up for a new pair of fingerless gloves.

Are you Ray liotta in that scene in goodfellas handing out cash to all the staff going into the restaurant? Paying 50 for someone's table?

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:08PM

titan18 wrote: »

Generally do, but amount will depend on service and what the amount comes to without the tip. Not a set percentage.

Like with barber, when it came to 13 euro, I just gave 15 with the tip. Then they increased to 15 and I didnt give one.

For food, if I was ordering a pizza and drink in a restaurant, it usually comes to 16/17 euro, so would just give 20

This shows the randomness of it all. If the cut was 13 you gave 2 to the barber, then why did you not give 2 to the barber when the price went up? The owner gets the extra 2, not the person who cuts your hair (unless they're the same person). And if it's the same person then they can just set the price to what they want and forget tipping.

Do some people tip to round off the amount because they're too embarrassed to ask for change or what's the story?

El_Duderino 09 · 22-08-2020 06:12PM

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

If it's a good restaurant and the table service is very good about 10% is fair .

If the service is poor or I'm left waiting too long for anything then nothing . Tipping in Ireland should only be for excellent service.

In the USA in the tourist areas the service staff have it down to a fine art in alot of cases cause it's their main income . They can almost anticipate what you need etc.

If you're left waiting, how do you know it's the waiter's fault? They could be understated and the waiter is helping in the kitchen. Or the kitchen might be being and catching up causing service to be slow. How do you decide whether it's the waiter's fault?

Samuel T. Cogley · 22-08-2020 06:15PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

If you're left waiting, how do you know it's the waiter's fault? They could be understated and the waiter is helping in the kitchen. Or the kitchen might be being and catching up causing service to be slow. How do you decide whether it's the waiter's fault?

For me it's the whole experience. The waiter can be the nicest in the world but if the food is crap or the service bad then I'd leave a smaller tip or no tip at all. I'd also hope that tips are shared with the kitchen staff etc.

Tipping when eating out.

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