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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #8462
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    PixieValentine wrote: »
    Wow, Leo has kicked Buttimer, Cummins and Burke out of the party.
    Word is behind the scenes he's FURIOUS.

    He hasn't kicked them out.


  • #8463
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Again another incoherent and to the ordinary man and barely legible statement from someone in NPHET.

    **** me, education and intelligence really are different.

    And **** off Philip.

    Its pretty damn clear to me.


  • #8464
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    This should have been explained when the restrictions were announced.
    Thread on why schools can reopen.
    https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1296760361228673027?s=21

    I've a simpler way to explain it. x % of irish people will get cancer. In order to keep that number stable all adults must stop smoking, drinking, eat a vegan diet and use sunscreen. All children must do the opposite. Numbers remain steady


  • #8465
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭fits


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Phil came back to Ireland in late July. Staying at the K Club (Kildare), has been seen in Leinster House while meant to be isolating, travelled from the K Club (Kildare) to Clifden....

    How do you know he's at the K Club?


  • #8466
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    I've a simpler way to explain it. x % of irish people will get cancer. In order to keep that number stable all adults must stop smoking, drinking, eat a vegan diet and use sunscreen. All children must do the opposite. Numbers remain steady

    Terrible false equivalence there.


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  • #8467
    PixieValentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    Arghus wrote: »
    He hasn't kicked them out.

    I know that now, thanks :) But before, I thought “removing the whip” effectively meant kicking them out.

    The things ya learn thanks to ill-advised golf dinners! :D


  • #8468
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,058 ✭✭✭✭fits


    PixieValentine wrote: »
    I know that now, thanks :) But before, I thought “removing the whip” effectively meant kicking them out.

    The things ya learn thanks to ill-advised golf dinners! :D

    Afaik removing the whip means they are not considered member of the parliamentary party - making them more like Independent Senators.


  • #8469
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    This should have been explained when the restrictions were announced.
    Thread on why schools can reopen.
    https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1296760361228673027?s=21

    Seems reasonable, until you realise that currently Re >1 and they haven't really introduced any new meaningful restrictions to reduce adults contacts to offset the kids going to school.

    Your gran. is hardly going to stay home now, so some kids can go to school now is she?


  • #8470
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    fits wrote: »
    Terrible false equivalence there.

    ok, two people of equal mass on either side of a balanced see-saw. in order to remain balanced one can ask one person to lose mass while the other gains it. :D


  • #8471
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    A judge is suppose to make judgment on people's judgement has said it's regrettable that he didn't know it would breach public health guidelines.

    I wonder how that would go down in his court. "I didn't know your HONOUR that I was about to break the law"

    Let me off

    He didn't even spell public health correctly


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  • #8472
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1296773489265975303?s=19


  • #8473
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    fits wrote: »
    Afaik removing the whip means they are not considered member of the parliamentary party - making them more like Independent Senators.

    Whip be quietly reinstated again in a few months provided they behave.


  • #8474
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Its pretty damn clear to me.

    It's an excellent piece, and totally clear. We have choices to make as a society. We can decide to keep the schools closed and go back to normal with everything else. Or we can decide to open the schools and have some restrictions on other aspects of our lives.

    These choices are equal from an overall perspective. It's a question of whether we think it's more important to open schools and educate our children or to have more freedom in the rest of our lives.


  • #8475
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    I've a simpler way to explain it. x % of irish people will get cancer. In order to keep that number stable all adults must stop smoking, drinking, eat a vegan diet and use sunscreen. All children must do the opposite. Numbers remain steady

    Spectacular lack of comprehension that doesn't even warrant a response, but here goes anyway.

    Hypothetical numbers -
    Scenario 1. 2,000 people have the virus. Each of those had 8 contacts on average and passes in on to 2 people on average. 4,000 new infections start and so on with exponential growth.
    Scenario 2. 2,000 people have the virus. 1600 of those have 3 contacts on average through restricted movements, and pass it on to 0.5 people on average with better hygiene measures or 800 people.
    The remaining 400 people have 30 close contacts on average, but though more limited distancing and hygiene measures pass it on to 3 people on average resulting in 1200 new cases, giving an overall total of 2000 new cases and a stable rate


  • #8476
    Piehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Piehead


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1296773489265975303?s=19

    The country is out of control. Need a full National enforced lockdown for 1 month. Seal border. Arrest and jail all for non compliance


  • #8477
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Looks like no early number today can't get hold of my mate


  • #8478
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Looks like no early number today can't get hold of my mate

    Now is no time for quitting!


  • #8479
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    Whip be quietly reinstated again in a few months provided they behave.

    Highly likely. Plus it's only the Seanad anyway. Someone on twitter compared this 'punishment' to "You can have your phone back when you've finished your homework."


  • #8480
    gral6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gral6


    Piehead wrote: »
    The country is out of control. Need a full National enforced lockdown for 1 month. Seal border. Arrest and jail all for non compliance

    It would be cheaper for country to lock you up in the single cell.


  • #8481
    Billgirlylegs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Billgirlylegs


    Sunrise.Sunset wrote: »
    She's working in a home environment and it's her place of work. Is she wrong to expect a safe work environment where the guidelines on social distancing can be followed to minimise her risk of virus to keep herself and her family safe?

    she seems to have survived the last 6 months ok.

    Why get concerned about this man's behaviour now?


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  • #8482
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Ahh yes, that old chestnut. Thrown around with abandon on here. Mainly by people that are afraid to leave the house themselves. An attempt to make you feel like you're a total cnut who doesn't care about anyone but themselves.

    I'm talking about people living their lives and not stopping living because of irrational fear.

    I know plenty of vulnerable and elderly people that are living their lives as normally as possible without letting fear take over.

    and there's that old chestnut.


  • #8483
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Looks like no early number today can't get hold of my mate

    Your reveal yesterday has exposed him and he is now being waterboarded at the DOH HQ


  • #8484
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I don’t know much about this Hogan fella i’ll be honest but he seems like a nasty piece of stuff


  • #8485
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Looks like no early number today can't get hold of my mate

    Maybe the leak has been dealt with :D


  • #8486
    dalyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Piehead wrote: »
    The country is out of control. Need a full National enforced lockdown for 1 month. Seal border. Arrest and jail all for non compliance

    Ehh , what do you think will happen when we REOPEN the border after the month is up ? Do you think it’s

    A , the virus will magically disappear and we will never have to worry about it again ?

    B , the virus will reappear once foreign visitors arrive back on our soil and the entire proposed draconian lockdown will have been meaningless ?

    Forget the impossibility of implementation of this crackpot idea politically ,socially and economically for now but seriously what do you think would be the end result of this mad idea ?


  • #8487
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I don’t know much about this Hogan fella i’ll be honest but he seems like a nasty piece of stuff

    He is to paraphrase someone else the most devious of the lot. Enda Kenny and his supporters have a lot to thank him for.


  • #8488
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Spectacular lack of comprehension that doesn't even warrant a response, but here goes anyway.

    You must have gotten confused, by the word cancer, Wuhan has it down in 2 lines. No need to be a d1ck about it either.


  • #8489
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Still no water here since the storm, can't wash my hands. Will I get covid ?


  • #8490
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Your reveal yesterday has exposed him and he is now being waterboarded at the DOH HQ

    No doubt they are using Perrier.

    I enquired yesterday about a private Covid-19 test for travel as there is a possibility I might require one soon. It costs €160 and yet we're told that the HSE test costs €200.


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  • #8491
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    You must have gotten confused, by the word cancer, Wuhan has it down in 2 lines. No need to be a d1ck about it either.

    See there are those who understand that public health measures are designed to reduce the overall frequency of transmissions, with understanding that we are willing to accept an increased risk in some areas to allow a viable way of life to continue thorough this, while and those who believe the goal is to eliminate all transmissions, which is both impossible, and incompatible with a sustainable way of living.


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