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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #8072
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,487 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    regulators wrote: »
    They do but don't show any symptons.


    There is going to be over a million people packed into cramped conditions when the schools reopen. I hope that sinks into peoples heads.

    This is not including colleges.

    Then all of them going hope to siblings and parents and possibly infecting them.

    Reopen schools and keep a lot of the country locked down doesn't make sense.

    And people giving out about a few people having a few pints and house parties. Give me a break.

    OK thanks, I had read somewhere that children under the age of 12 or thereabouts have a much lower chance of spreading the virus. I'm not sure if that's true, so I guess we can't depend on it.

    But can't secondary kids do lessons online? Provide laptops and Internet if needed.


  • #8073
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,265 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    gmisk wrote: »
    They are coming out with some rubbish about them being split between two rooms....and apparently Dara Calleary only appeared briefly....hmmm

    Barry Cowen must be grinning from ear to ear
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8074
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,543 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Barry Cowen must be grinning from ear to ear
    I wonder who is the third choice for that job lol....Jim ocallaghan maybe?!


  • #8075
    regulators
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭regulators


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    OK thanks, I had read somewhere that children under the age of 12 or thereabouts have a much lower chance of spreading the virus. I'm not sure if that's true, so I guess we can't depend on it.

    But can't secondary kids do lessons online? Provide laptops and Internet if needed.

    Oh sorry, only the first line was directed at you. I wasn't having a go.

    I think the herd immunity is the only way to go. Keep the over 60's self isolating and people with underlying conditions and get on with our lives.

    The virus is never going away so we have to get on with it, no point delaying it so children should go back to school.


  • #8076
    PixieValentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Barry Cowen must be grinning from ear to ear

    Saw this on twitter earlier… the whole situation is SO not funny of course, but I have to admit this did make me chuckle!

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1296519068506349568?s=20


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  • #8077
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Public gatherings risk community spread. That's all there is to it.
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    But yet I can go to an indoor theatre with 50 people for as long as I want or a wedding.

    Same points apply then, how did they travel to the theatre, did they meet people before, will they meet people after , oh and its indoor, a hell of a lot more risk than outdoor.

    You can see where people have issues no ?

    Also that video from Glynn and I've watched it didn't clear much up at all. I've also read the NPHET report and that's very light on specific evidence also.

    This whole thing has been a mess since it was announced

    While I can't stand Veradkar, in his time as Taoiseach there was some semblence of logic behind decisions taken, and you could nearly believe the "all in this together".

    The decisions now make no sense in terms of their consistency, and when you lose the people believing in the message the damage is done imo.
    My mother (80) has become one of the "I've had enough of this, I'm going out to live my life" brigade, the bravado she is showing is actually quite impressive given some younger people I know are afraid of their own shadows in this.


  • #8078
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    political analyst wrote: »
    If people who have contracted the virus and know they have it stay at home for a fortnight then they won't pass it on to others. So why would any of them feel obliged to tell their GPs if they're not seriously ill?

    If don't contact their doc and arrange a test how do they know that they contracted covid?


  • #8079
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    OK thanks, I had read somewhere that children under the age of 12 or thereabouts have a much lower chance of spreading the virus. I'm not sure if that's true, so I guess we can't depend on it.

    But can't secondary kids do lessons online? Provide laptops and Internet if needed.
    Are you aware how poor internet access is in many parts of the country?


  • #8080
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    gmisk wrote: »
    They are coming out with some rubbish about them being split between two rooms....and apparently Dara Calleary only appeared briefly....hmmm

    It is a stupid rule. Irrational. I don’t hold it against him.


  • #8081
    regulators
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭regulators


    So if we properly look at the schools and colleges going back.

    That's 1,250,000 in education in tightly packed buildings.

    Lets say out of 1,250,000 there is 1,000,000 parents these people in education are going back home to. That brings it up to 2,250,000 of people not really self isolating and in large crowds.

    These 1,000,000 parents are then going into work possibly passing it onto people in their work place.

    A lot of these people won't show any symptoms or only have a mild illness.

    Its a never ending circle so time to bite the bullet and just have the over 60's cocoon and people with underlying illnesses.

    It has to come to this eventually. We can't live in this circle forever.

    (I have know idea about the parents number but there is 1,250,000 in full time education in this country)


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  • #8082
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    It is a stupid rule. Irrational. I don’t hold it against him.

    Not really the point when you're a newly appointed government minister and your government has just announced restrictions.


  • #8083
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    So till then, we live like this, no thanks, society is slowly accepting of the death, time to move on.

    You said this at the start of this and your still wrong.


  • #8084
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    Well your rigorous scientific reasoning has won me over.
    As that wasn't the intention, I don't give a toss.

    I've given up trying to win anybody over and will concentrate on trying to protect my family and myself.


  • #8085
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,487 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Are you aware how poor internet access is in many parts of the country?

    I am :(

    But I guess it doesn't have to be an all or nothing approach.

    School from home where possible, give kids time off if outbreaks in the area, it's going to be a patchwork of measures.

    It's a tough one, and I'm glad I'm not the person who has to decide, but the government's approach is despicable. Totally throwing in the towel. Cowards.


  • #8086
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,985 ✭✭✭political analyst


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    If don't contact their doc and arrange a test how do they know that they contracted covid?

    They might not know but they probably would suspect they have it.


  • #8087
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Bang on 136
    I'll fill you in tomorrow,


  • #8088
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Incredible numbers. 73% of those found to gave antibodies had symptoms. Why are so many of the recent cases asymptomatic

    Not all people are susceptible to this virus and even though they have the virus antibodies may not be produced by immune system.


  • #8089
    gifted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭gifted


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I'll fill you in tomorrow,

    Feck the covid numbers....any chance of the lotto numbers...pm obviously lol lol


  • #8090
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    political analyst wrote: »
    They might not know but they probably would suspect they have it.

    Then they need to go to their doctor to confirm don't they.


  • #8091
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    Yourdeadwright was dead right.
    He should make the announcement at 12.30 daily.

    I will when I get the news


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  • #8092
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    PowerToWait wrote: »
    A significant cohort of highly qualified people (epidemiologists / virologists) who get paid lots of money to have opinions / ideas / devise strategies on these things, say you are incorrect.


    By any chance are these the same 'experts' that informed us last January that this virus would be confined to China and we had little or nothing to worry about.??
    And were some of them involved in the scam 20 years ago when they posted all of us iodine tablets in preparation for the inevitable meltdown of Sellafield...:mad:


  • #8093
    regulators
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭regulators


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Then they need to go to their doctor to confirm don't they.

    Do you think most people are going to bother get tested for Covid-19 if they have a slight cough.

    Think about it.


  • #8094
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    OK thanks, I had read somewhere that children under the age of 12 or thereabouts have a much lower chance of spreading the virus. I'm not sure if that's true, so I guess we can't depend on it.

    But can't secondary kids do lessons online? Provide laptops and Internet if needed.

    It’s not well known yet. Warrants precaution.

    https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1296453662022291457?s=21


  • #8095
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Incredible numbers. 73% of those found to gave antibodies had symptoms. Why are so many of the recent cases asymptomatic

    https://metro-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/metro.co.uk/2020/08/18/is-coronavirus-weakening-13145365/amp/?usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D&amp_js_v=0.1#metro-comments-container


  • #8096
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,855 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    There is nothing straightforward about this virus, it’s so weird. We are just existing in sci-fi land.


  • #8097
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    regulators wrote: »
    I think the herd immunity is the only way to go. Keep the over 60's self isolating and people with underlying conditions and get on with our lives.

    The virus is never going away so we have to get on with it...

    So, in effect, retirement age drops to 60 until a vaccine is found? Do you realise how many in the labour market are over 60 and how much over 60s contribute to the economy and what pensioning them off will cost?


  • #8098
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's only a guesstimate from two counties. GP Ciara Kelly had it in March and done 5 antibody tests for and her family. All nil. We are seriously underestimating t cells.I think it is multiples of that.


    Which goes to prove that she never had Covid19 in the first place, along with her cronies Tubridy and Claire Byrne, all of whom crave public attention.
    Or maybe they had the special 'celebrity version' emulating Tom Hanks, Banderos and a few other dim-wits like themselves...:mad:


  • #8099
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Must say I'm shocked by that seroprevalence study,Sligo maybe not that surprising but how could so few people have contracted it in Dublin. Let's hope that the T cell immunity theory comes to be further explained and proven or else hospitals are in for a rough time the next few months.


  • #8100
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Blondini wrote: »
    I predict absenteeism amongst teachers between 10 and 20% from the start.


    Just as things were pre-covid so...;);)


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  • #8101
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    washman3 wrote: »
    Which goes to prove that she never had Covid19 in the first place, along with her cronies Tubridy and Claire Byrne, all of whom crave public attention.
    Or maybe they had the special 'celebrity version' emulating Tom Hanks, Banderos and a few other dim-wits like themselves...:mad:

    People get covid to varying degrees. From asymptomatic to death. Why would they not have had it if they tested positive?


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