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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #7202
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm struggling to see where it went wrong. It kind of came out of nowhere after we did well for so long.

    I would have thought that this hasn't come out of nowhere. Far from it.

    It's easy to feel like everything is going to work perfectly when new case numbers are low and a lot of the testing is targeted mass testing of clearly defined groups and subjects.

    The writing has been on the wall for weeks about the general deterioration of the situation and concerns about it expressed on the thread have been too often glibly, even gleefully, dismissed.

    There's been people on this thread for weeks now talking about how they didn't believe in the supposed cast iron robustness of the testing and tracing regime and the bizarre over confidence on display that outbreaks and clusters were totally nothing to get worried about. Those sentiments have not aged well.

    What's happening now is not a surprise. In my opinion, the signs were there the day the announced the 85 new cases, but a lot of people didn't want to accept that there was a strong possibility that things were beginning to get slightly hairy, to say the least, and didn't want to acknowledge that the picture being painted by the CMO was anything but entirely 100% rosey. With all due respect, you were very dismissive of people's legitimate concerns - nothing to worry about, the testing and tracing will work perfectly and it was only to do with known clusters anyway and it was hysterical to read anything more into it. Given all that, It's hardly surprising that you're now surprised, to be fair.


  • #7203
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes . At the fruit aisle nobody around , then suddenly this wan positively dived in front of me to grab a box of strawberries and ran off .
    I was a bit stunned . She was like someone from the Walking Dead with a blue mask on , lol .

    Dirty bitch


  • #7204
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    fritzelly wrote: »
    This government have abandoned all hope of keeping on top of this and are right now thinking of the next platitude they can relay to the people whilst coming up with some inane new restrictions

    How the hell did FF get back in to power - FG should have declared a national emergency or something to stay in power til it was all over (is that even possible in Ireland?)

    FG knew FF would fvck it up even more royally than they did. They are waiting for them to crash and burn so that they'll be the only civil war party left in the country. You can call me cynical but ....I don't have a cool quite from terminator to put here.
    I've voted for them previously. Won't be voting for them on principle. They should have declared a government of national unity to face the crisis we are in.


  • #7205
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    A lockdown again would be senseless from Martin, but the sort of c#nt he is he’s only love that to stamp his authority.

    Despite the agreed opinion at the moment that people’s guard has went down, I don’t think people would listen to a second lockdown country wide like the first time. People want to move on with their lives now and live with the virus.

    No way will people sit in again from March to what, may was it.

    Even the most cautious people the first time around in their 50s and 60s are saying to hell with it and trying to enjoy life, have a pint, meet friends in their back garden, head away for a day trip.


  • #7206
    Kaylami
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Kaylami


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Jeez it's back to March with the testing , mad !

    How are you now?

    Only today I've managed to get out of bed with it. Like I'm only 30 and healthy no underlying conditions and whatever this is has knocked me on my arse.

    And try explaining to the kids why they can't come in to mammies room to have a chat.


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  • #7207
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah good point, I could see that being a problem. People should be picked up on it. It's literally dangerous. I've been fairly laissez faire in the supermarket. Might have to go back a step. A lot of it is education in that they don't know. There are other people who don't agree with it so sticking there nose out is the equivalent of giving the man the finger. I saw some fella who came in with one and took it off one ear and wanted to be challenged. The Americanisms are polluting us. We inherit issues that don't make sense.

    Sure they can't even police it to make it mandatory , how can you get people to wear the bloody thing properly if they just won't ?
    " Oh it steams up my glasses" , put some fairy liquid on the inside of your glasses , you should be cleaning them anyway .
    " Don't have to cover my nose unless I am sneezing " . So you'll drop your shopping and pull it up superfast , will you ? Good luck with that.
    " I have a medical condition " ..Only one I know that stops you wearing a mask is an illness like claustrophobia. . Even people with no ears can use ties instead of straps . And a lot of people with emphysema , asthma , COPd , would not be out without a mask in these times and they would be the only ones I would think may be allowed not to wear them possibly
    Sorry if that sounds harsh , but it is these noncompliant people who would be screaming blue murder that it is someone else's fault if they catch it .


  • #7208
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Kaylami wrote: »
    Woke up saturday with symptoms main one I couldnt catch my breath. Had been fine Friday.

    Rang doctor on call referral for test Saturday. Tested Monday. Still no results. So 5 days since symptoms.

    All in house restricting movements.

    Take Care, hope negative for you
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  • #7209
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    Dirty bitch

    🙂

    Smelly old boot


  • #7210
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm struggling to see where it went wrong. It kind of came out of nowhere after we did well for so long.

    Government and CMO change? Where's Paul Reid?
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  • #7211
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Kaylami wrote: »
    Only today I've managed to get out of bed with it. Like I'm only 30 and healthy no underlying conditions and whatever this is has knocked me on my arse.

    And try explaining to the kids why they can't come in to mammies room to have a chat.

    Its unnatural really .
    Hope you get better soon .


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  • #7212
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    If only this storm could blow it away
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  • #7213
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I don't think she would have tested positive that soon. I am not an expert but I thought you would have to have enough of a viral load to test positive and surely it would take a couple of days incubation to be at that stage ?

    Yeah you're probably right!


  • #7214
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    E]
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Government and CMO change? Where's Paul Reid?

    Everyone's on holidays. Silly season. :mad:


  • #7215
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,085 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Take Care, hope negative for you

    I'm hoping positive, the other explanations aren't exactly appealing.
    I'd be loading up on the complex b vitamins in the mean time and Echinacea.


  • #7216
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Fixed it, Ted was the first thing came to my head just got lazy and went for the easy line...

    Still, all that pent up Irish dancing rolling around together in a caravan ...
    A bit like the shops now , lol .


  • #7217
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    If only this storm could blow it away

    I was only thinking, if they had a press conference today, you would have some silly journalist asking if someone coughs down in cork with the storm blowing, is there a risk the virus would be blown across the country.


  • #7218
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I'm hoping positive, the other explanations aren't exactly appealing.
    I'd be loading up on the complex b vitamins in the mean time and Echinacea.

    Add zinc, vit c and vit d
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  • #7219
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    E]



    Everyone's on holidays. Silly season. :mad:

    I hope in Ireland on staycation
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  • #7220
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,043 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Add zinc, vit c and vit d

    Vit D + 100


  • #7221
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Are masks in shops now legally enforceable?
    Been in a lidl a few times the past few days and always about 10% not wearing mask and they have a security guy on the door so it's not like they can just wander in
    Unless you are carrying around an oxygen cylinder there really is no reason to not wear a mask, no reason to not even carry one when going out
    (And I hate wearing them)

    I thought they were in most places especially like in shops, shopping centres and supermarkets
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  • #7222
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Goodnight, laddies. My shift done.


  • #7223
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Renjit wrote: »
    Goodnight, laddies. My shift done.

    TYFYS


  • #7224
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    SD doesn't do much tweeting (more than MM ever does tho) bar repeating stuff but compare this to any other video tweet by SH during the crisis

    https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1296168916411195399

    Used car salesman comes strongly to mind


  • #7225
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Beautiful and friendly but quite dangerous egg comes to mind.
    https://twitter.com/dazfla/status/1295873722755284996?s=20


  • #7226
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,692 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    khalessi wrote: »
    Have 2 ordered from US will arrive mid September
    Are you sure? My shipping agent recently refused to ship masks outside the USA due to government directives.


  • #7227
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Arghus wrote: »
    I would have thought that this hasn't come out of nowhere. Far from it.

    Now we'll see what they can do to fix the situation. Seems like testing is working fairly okay, but getting results is too slow - and the same with contact tracing that seems to be overwhelmed. The contact tracing issue isn't surprising with all the large clusters happening in a short period of time.

    I assume the government's idea is to limit the number of contacts people have, so that might help with all of the issues. I'm not exactly convinced that it will, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.


  • #7228
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    People are fed up now and just want to get in with their lives. We were fed a line in March/April thst if we stuck with the rules we would flatten the curve and now here we are.
    Demonising young people doesn’t help either


  • #7229
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Gael23 wrote: »
    People are fed up now and just want to get in with their lives. We were fed a line in March/April thst if we stuck with the rules we would flatten the curve and now here we are.
    Demonising young people doesn’t help either

    Yep, people did their part for the most part, next of all there are hundreds of cases caused by factories but the government blamed house parties and watching sport which would have had a miniscule effect.

    Government should just have come out clean and said, 'factories are shut down and fined heavily, unfortunately we have this in our communities now and we need to have strict restrictions for a month then a review after that'.

    Instead they nothing has been said about the factories besides them getting tested and we're led to believe more that watching sport has caused this.


  • #7230
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Yep, people did their part for the most part, next of all there are hundreds of cases caused by factories but the government blamed house parties and watching sport which would have had a miniscule effect.

    Government should just have come out clean and said, 'factories are shut down and fined heavily, unfortunately we have this in our communities now and we need to have strict restrictions for a month then a review after that'.

    Instead they nothing has been said about the factories besides them getting tested and we're led to believe more that watching sport has caused this.

    Irrigardless of any factory cases, nursing home issues or big parties in pubs. Things have to get back to normal. I felt like after the government Cleary showed their incompetent a few days ago.
    Big positives on the imunity front according to Dr cambell(he rarely has good news)
    Get offices open, schools open, pubs open and Fast.

    And while they are at it beef up the health system it's their for the public not the other way around.


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  • #7231
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Gael23 wrote: »
    People are fed up now and just want to get in with their lives. We were fed a line in March/April thst if we stuck with the rules we would flatten the curve and now here we are.
    Demonising young people doesn’t help either

    Yeah, that’s not how dealing with pandemics works. Unfortunately I feel this attitude is starting to prevail, which will really see us in the shît this winter.


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