Masks

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

There are like visor shields, Centra had them

Boots today 20 masks for 12 euros

no these things https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=imgres&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiE4K-BqaXrAhVCt3EKHWSnD0wQjhx6BAgBEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.banggood.com%2FBIKIGHT-Plastic-Mouth-Mask-Anti-fog-Seal-Breathable-Reusable-Face-Mask-Protective-Cover-p-1653750.html&psig=AOvVaw2gnTZZ7R4YGsyX4C6PufSQ&ust=1597859602275602

Sconsey wrote: »

No you are not, you place your faith in what you are calling 'emperical evidence' that there has not been any community transmission in shops. In other words you have 'no evidence'. Menawhile you ignore the science backed evidence that masks can make a difference in helping reduce the spread of the virus.

'Emperical evidence' versus scientific research.

You are all science and evidence Emperical Evidence.

So you're saying I have faith and nothing else and you reply with a 'can'.

I never said anything about no community transmission. Although I could have. Because from the start of our outbreak we went through to single digit numbers in July with no masks. Hardly a strong indicator for community transmission.

But the main point are the non existing staff infections. The people who spend 8 hours a day five days a week in the supermarket with thousands pf people coming through. Breathing in all their deadly aerosols. Only very clearly they're not. Cos they're not there those deadly aerosols.

Look I understand you don't think much of what I'm saying but how can you ignore this? And them come up yourself with a 'can'?

Edit:
On the point of empirical evidence vs scientific research.

The research trotted out targets very specific statements. A) We have found a life virus in a room full of covid patients 5 metres away. We have found that someone breathes out n number of droplets without a mask and n minus m with a mask. Grand. But whats missing are the connecting dots. People make up the dots themselves and thats what I refer to as children logic. And so we arrive at people who connect A and B and connclude that we all must wear masks. Only its nonsense. Cos the connecting dots are simply not there or definitely not to a degree that warrants to impose masks on entire populations.

While the empirical evidence is real life data from stuff that actually happened or not and was observed in the real world.

I was replying to a very specific response to an earlier post of mine.

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

Have a query and can't read 571 pages to see if it has been answered already! Does anybody have a good suggestion re a way of carrying a mask out and about, other than a disposable plastic bag? I hate throwing out plastic so wash and dry a ziplock bag but its tedious. Anybody recommend a more easily cleaned/washed pouch/carry-bag? Cotton probably not anti-bacterial so guess still silicone or plastic but maybe more easily wiped down?

I'm using small plastic boxes, easy to clean

I have 2 zip lock bags. One for clean masks and one for dirty. When the dirty mask one is taken out to wash the bag is just used again for the next dirty one, I mean it's only a dirty mask going into the dirty bag. Won't be disposing of either bag until there's a hole in it.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

So you're saying I have faith and nothing else and you reply with a 'can'.

I never said anything about no community transmission. Although I could have. Because from the start of our outbreak we went through to single digit numbers in July with no masks. Hardly a strong indicator for community transmission.

But the main point are the non existing staff infections. The people who spend 8 hours a day five days a week in the supermarket with thousands pf people coming through. Breathing in all their deadly aerosols. Only very clearly they're not. Cos they're not there those deadly aerosols.

Look I understand you don't think much of what I'm saying but how can you ignore this? And them come up yourself with a 'can'?

Edit:
On the point of empirical evidence vs scientific research.

The research trotted out targets very specific statements. A) We have found a life virus in a room full of covid patients 5 metres away. We have found that someone breathes out n number of droplets without a mask and n minus m with a mask. Grand. But whats missing are the connecting dots. People make up the dots themselves and thats what I refer to as children logic. And so we arrive at people who connect A and B and connclude that we all must wear masks. Only its nonsense. Cos the connecting dots are simply not there or definitely not to a degree that warrants to impose masks on entire populations.

While the empirical evidence is real life data from stuff that actually happened or not and was observed in the real world.

Well you definitely don't have a science degree anyway. What a laughable post :pac: forgive me for not having much faith in your ability to assess scientific research when you can't spell properly, conclude only has one n! I'm smart enough to know what I don't know. So I listen to the experts and wear as mask.

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

Have a query and can't read 571 pages to see if it has been answered already! Does anybody have a good suggestion re a way of carrying a mask out and about, other than a disposable plastic bag? I hate throwing out plastic so wash and dry a ziplock bag but its tedious. Anybody recommend a more easily cleaned/washed pouch/carry-bag? Cotton probably not anti-bacterial so guess still silicone or plastic but maybe more easily wiped down?

I bought paper lunch bags in Dunnes . I think there are 50 bags in a small box .

odyssey06 wrote: »

Church leaders unite to recommend wearing of face coverings during worship:
In a joint statement, the Catholic Church, Church of Ireland, Presbyterians and Methodists said while governments on both sides of the border have not made face coverings compulsory at services, they recommend they are worn.
https://www.thejournal.ie/church-leaders-face-coverings-5180549-Aug2020/

I wonder could they have been a bit more specific about the 'covering'. Priests in my local parish wear visors rather than masks when distributing communion.

GT89 wrote:

What about neither. No lockdown and no masks in Sweden and yet people seem to be able to go about their business there as normal

BS of a highest order.

Sweden has one of the highest coronavirus deaths per capita - 0.584/1000 population.

Just to demonstrate how stupid you are - China would have 700,000 deaths with this kind of death per capita.

And that's before I go into the issue that Sweden doesn't report all deaths, especially care homes, unlike France, Belgium, Ireland and most other countries apart from Spain and Italy, which report all deaths.

Irish isn't exactly stellar either but is much lower - 0.367/1000 population, realistically given the above reporting issue it's probably half of the real world Swedish deaths per capita.

Will prolonged use of masks feck up your ears to a sort of rugby players cauliflower ear?

I don't believe a mask protects me, or anyone else around me.

I wear it here because we have to. I genuinely don't believe it protects anyone.

Sorry been out for a while. Had to scroll through pages of arguments of the troll...erm...anti-mask crowd.

The only good argument these clowns actually make is for a universal mask requirement - everywhere indoors, not just in retail or public transport, but at workplaces and all other indoors settings; and potentially outdoors in crowded areas as well. And why? Because supermarkets aren't probably the most likely place for one to catch / spread the virus and we should absolutely fill all our gaps.

Have we reached the peak-anti-mask yet?

Nothing about Soros or Gates or Illuminati or the penis reduction size yet?

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Will prolonged use of masks feck up your ears to a sort of rugby players cauliflower ear?

Not unless you're repeatedly punching your ears while putting your mask on.