How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

timmy_mallet wrote: »

I'm asking is that correct if all school going children in Ireland were to contract covid, it would result in 80 hospitilisations?

No it's not. It would also result in the hospitalisation of school staff, parents, siblings, extended family and other members of the community. However you already know that.

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Right, so the figures quoted from the poster above are incorrect, and the per 100000 amount is much larger.

The HSPCs published reports on influenza, to me at least, were shocking, I never realised so many kids ended up in hospital from influenza.

Not to me, I see them dropping like flies every winter. illness spreads like wildfire in classrooms and quite a few times I have ended up with half a class due to illness or flu and occasionally I have had a couple of kids hospitalised.

I just read through the list of new restrictions that are to be in place until at least the 13th of September and had a laugh at this one:

“ Children's summer camps can continue, but should be kept to the same group of 15 children.”

Schools really must be magical places that once they go into a classroom at the end of August, it’s fine to have double that amount

I also was taken by this one:

“ All outdoor events and gatherings will be limited to 15 people, down from 200.”

But again, in the magical world of a school playground, it will be okay to have a whole class, possibly 3 or 4 classes out at the same time at break and lunchtime. Or are we to stagger breaks so only one class is out at time. So, 10 minutes a class, allow some changeover time, we’re looking at about 2 hours to get break time covered in a single stream primary. Lunchtime could take 3-4 hours. So best get started at 9am for breaks with the last group out for lunch just before home time!

You'd have to be pretty sure of yourself to run a summer camp til mid September

Sunday Sunday wrote: »

That may be the case but there's plenty of other viruses that can send a kid to hospital in respiratory trouble.

They are the confirmed cases in the HSPC reports I presume and doesn't include the others who are diagnosed as influenza by GP's across the country without ever being swabbed.

A practice we'll see less of too coz it's all about the Covid now.

if a gp doesn't check a child out properly when they are in respiratory distress I would be changing gp, they will continue to do their job as always. Also if I consider my child in respiratory trouble I would be straight into A/E and not farting around with gp.

mushroom plant in Co Tipperary had closed after 29 of its 170 staff tested positive for Covid-19.
my son's shool has more than 600 kids + teacher . that's mean his school may have 100 people infect Covid-19 few weeks aftafter school reopen ,and about one million pupils returning to classrooms in the coming weeks, joined by more than 100,000 staff. so just Calculate !

vid36 wrote: »

R value now estimated at 1.6. Neil Ferguson estimates the opening schools will increase the r value by 0.3-0.5 Schools will be closed before the end of September.

I really hope you are wrong.

There will come a point when a tough decision will have to be made about whether we continue on and try to protect the vunerable, or whether we let CV19 ruin our lives.

We can't have young kids stopping their schooling and lives from end Sept to say Jan....just not on. I'd rather take my chances and avoid my elderly mum than live in this type of system, where society is put on hold every few months.

vid36 wrote: »

R value now estimated at 1.6. Neil Ferguson estimates the opening schools will increase the r value by 0.3-0.5 Schools will be closed before the end of September.

I know there are parents absolutely gagging for them to open, i have read messages on group chats, where parents want to have parties to celebrate their children going back. Teachers need to be that whistle blower, stand up be counted. You will get terrible abuse, be told go on the dole, apply for PUP, be like the nurse or hairdresser and just get on with it, be like a front line worker, take the hit. We the parents wont be able to see, we not allowed near the school. Our children may not be able to let us know. This is Ireland, it is not some great European country where children are in classrooms of 10 to 15, groups of children, the same as before but to make you feel better, called pods. Still 30 plus......in that classroom breathing the same air, their parents working from home because their spacious office is not safe enough to go to......

Sunday Sunday wrote: »

Same risk as sharing a bed with someone and sleeping 10 to a room after working shoulder to shoulder with some people purposely evading being caught with the virus?

Aerosol sprays from water on the factory floor carry the virus on its merry way to the next victim.

Nah, nowhere near the same risk.

The fact that you compare being in a small room with upwards of 30 kids to sharing a bed with someone is troubling enough for me to suggest you stay at least 200 metres from any educational hub or playground.

Sunday Sunday wrote: »

Its going to be difficult enough for them to adapt back after being away for so long and especially with new routines and guidelines too.

Lives lost doesn't always mean someone has died, we are facing into a massive mental health catastrophe after the stress thats been put on society.

A tsunami of non viral issues are happening right now and it's only going to get worse. If we can even offer children education, social integration and routine it will help.

It's time that children were made a priority.

Schools are not the only underfunded sector with a lack of resources. Mental health profession already under huge strain has had a massive spike in referrals and cases.

I presume children have been a priority for their families up to this and they will settle quickly back into school for the mostpart, as they are used to school and there will be lots of mental wellbeing sessions. THe children will be glad to be back among their friends, and seeing their teachers and they can discuss everything that has been going on. It will be good for them despite one or two new methods of doing things but for the most part the classes will be the same they have always been, sitting in groups and partaking in class dicussions and groaning if they get homework. For the minority who are uneasy they will be looked after and minded because that is part of what we do.