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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #6242
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Donnelly scaremongering about another national lockdown

    Has mentioned it quite a few times

    I don't think he's scaremongering to be honest. It's entirely possible if shyte continues to go south. It's not a sure thing, but dismissing it as impossible is wishful thinking.

    That's the first time I've heard the kite flown of another lockdown, a couple of times too. That's significant.


  • #6243
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Do you mean emigration? Where do people go?

    When the crisis passes other countries will recover faster.


  • #6244
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Jumping ship from left to right is a warning sign in itself.

    All the main parties in Ireland are left wing.


  • #6245
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    Masala wrote: »
    ****.... had an AGM Organised for 2 September ... max 60 would be attending.

    Now what are my options???? Am already 15 months to the day from last AGM and so am just within th3 Law on holding it. Don’t see the Companies Office extending the 15 month rule.... so am buggerred.

    Any help appreciated!!

    I understand there is a possibility now to have a virtual meeting. Sign up to Zoom and run through that.

    Edit - enacted https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/bills/bill/2020/15/

    Some practical advice here - https://www.companyformations.ie/blog/hybrid-agm-fulfil-annual-general-meeting-requirements-remotely/


  • #6246
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    That Professor on PT was very impressive I thought. I don't think the Zero Covid thing is realistic myself, but everything else he said was very well communicated - great answer on schools.


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  • #6247
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    That gob****e Tomás Ryan on the telly again


  • #6248
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Do you mean emigration? Where do people go?

    Don't worry. There has always been emigration. Nobody gave a fvck til now suddenly.


  • #6249
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Donnelly scaremongering about another national lockdown

    Has mentioned it quite a few times

    How is it scaremongering ? It GOT us into good shape, it might need to again if people are going to be selfish, undisciplined, uncaring and careless.

    It’s only appropriate that reality is shared with the public.


  • #6250
    Turkish1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Turkish1


    So many questions in relation to how this will be implemented it not what are the actual powers of the guards in relation to house parties?

    How do these restrictions legally stack up - what 'law' is being broken if someone has a house party? These restrictions come into place immediately but are laws/bills actually being signed into law?

    Am I right in saying it is 6 people excluding those living in the house? What if I have 5 kids and 7 living in the house?

    What if someone just doesn't open the door, are the going to break the door in for someone having a few people over without evidence of any rules/laws being broken.

    Do they just send people on their way or are there on the spot fines?

    Just dont think this is really going to work to be honest - fatigue is setting in


  • #6251
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,790 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Dublin is throwing off the real picture of Ireland.


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  • #6252
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Still no evidence.[/QUOTE

    Of what?

    Our numbers went from 800 a day to 7 a day because of a strict lockdown. Why have numbers went up from then? Imported cases reporting each week with no regulations other than please stay in your hotel and don't socialise, but we won't check up on you and there is no penalty if you don't comply. What else was going to happen given we had opened up by then?

    https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1292927914409963523?s=20

    These guys seem to be doing OK?

    Learn from countries doing well. Not average or bad.


  • #6253
    ElTel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Ll31 wrote: »
    Would you trust them?

    Them?
    Samples.
    I think the PCR test results on saliva should be similar to current.

    Company/Factory
    Could be an issue all right but the labs should be cute enough to check for any shenanigans.


  • #6254
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    I think it's going to take another few months of slobbering around by the government before they legitimately consider a hard eradication policy.

    Another national lockdown might be enough to gather large scale public support for it.


  • #6255
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Turkish1 wrote: »
    Just dont think this is really going to work to be honest - fatigue is setting in
    I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but I notice this thought that fatigue is setting in from many posters.

    The virus doesn't care if we're fatigued. If our hospitals get over-run by new cases, we're in big trouble and the government will have to introduce more stringent measures - up to and including enforced lockdowns, closing businesses etc if required. There is no choice here, it will never be an option to simply let the virus cut through the country.

    It's up to all of us to do our bit while we have the opportunity. It's much better than the alternative.


  • #6256
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,164 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Strumms wrote: »
    How is it scaremongering ? It GOT us into good shape, it might need to again if people are going to be selfish, undisciplined, uncaring and careless.

    It’s only appropriate that reality is shared with the public.

    people ? You make it sound like nobody was stuck inside for months and weren't disciplined. Where did the new outbreaks start ? It wasn't house parties or the pubs that are open(with food) as far as I know. If the minister is talking about another lockdown then why don't they address the places where there are problem. A national lockdown including places where there are very low numbers and have been for months wouldn't be fair IMO. Deal with where the outbreaks have happened.


  • #6257
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    It never went away.

    To take on your strategy -

    1. build a wall on island of Ireland.
    UK and Ireland approach in line with common travel area which is hear to stay regardless
    2. Leave the EU.
    stay in EU. No need to leave Schengen area because we were never in it.
    3. Develop a new economic model.
    ryanair is not our economic model. It's a national disgrace at this stage

    And this will bring -

    Abject poverty and mass emigration.
    stop fear mongering

    https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1295712951207440384?s=20


  • #6258
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Still no evidence.[/QUOTE

    Of what?

    Our numbers went from 800 a day to 7 a day because of a strict lockdown. Why have numbers went up from then? Imported cases reporting each week with no regulations other than please stay in your hotel and don't socialise, but we won't check up on you and there is no penalty if you don't comply. What else was going to happen given we had opened up by then?

    Can you please stop misleading people on respect to the causes of the recent increase. It is not related to travel.


  • #6259
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,223 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    hmmm wrote: »
    That Professor on PT was very impressive I thought. I don't think the Zero Covid thing is realistic myself, but everything else he said was very well communicated - great answer on schools.

    Thomas Ryan. He's been consistent in his message for ages and as a result people hate his guts.

    The mere mention of his name in the relaxation thread will have the freedom fighters heads bursting into geysers of bile.


  • #6260
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Redordeadqwwer wrote: »
    I think it's going to take another few months of slobbering around by the government before they legitimately consider a hard eradication policy.

    Another national lockdown might be enough to gather large scale public support for it.
    I'd gladly take a 20 day hard lockdown over this current nonsensical approach. Hard lockdown then close borders, tight. Give people 7 days notice to get home or stay out. No exceptions.


  • #6261
    Masala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭Masala


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Engage the companies office. Of course they will make allowances in these extraordinary times.

    Get an extension and put plans in place to organise a virtual AGM. Use the tech at your disposal.

    These are extraordinary times. Rest assured your not the only one facing this problem.

    Any guidance of how to do an online meeting.... would it need an external company to organize or can it be done easily internally. A Zoom wouldn’t suit 60 people trying to diallin....


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  • #6262
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,197 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looks like gigs are ok. Took him all evening to get clarity apparently https://twitter.com/malcolmbyrne/status/1295813502326779904?s=19


  • #6263
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    A forecasting question. What is the mean days to ICU for a covid case? What should we be expecting from these 80 cases avg a day?


  • #6264
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1295712951207440384?s=20

    No good if inward travel at the levels we have still exists. We are a global hub for business.


  • #6265
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,137 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Arghus wrote: »
    Thomas Ryan. He's been consistent in his message for ages and as a result people hate his guts.

    The mere mention of his name in the relaxation thread will have the freedom fighters heads bursting into geysers of bile.

    Always a sign that you are talking about someone who actually knows whats going on when they react like that!


  • #6266
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1295712951207440384?s=20

    Sorry but this is again living in Lala land in respect to our membership of the European Union and in regard to our economic model.


  • #6267
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Lundstram wrote: »
    I'd gladly take a 20 day hard lockdown over this current nonsensical approach. Hard lockdown then close borders, tight. Give people 7 days notice to get home or stay out. No exceptions.

    I agree. They’re after picking a percentage of the population to restrict. It’s either all or nothing in my view.


  • #6268
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Lundstram wrote: »
    I'd gladly take a 20 day hard lockdown over this current nonsensical approach. Hard lockdown then close borders, tight. Give people 7 days notice to get home or stay out. No exceptions.

    All very simple in theory but I'm sure there are a lot of issues with implementing it. Id stay at home, indoors, for 20 days no problem if i knew the old normal was at the end of it.


  • #6269
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    people ? You make it sound like nobody was stuck inside for months and weren't disciplined. Where did the new outbreaks start ? It wasn't house parties or the pubs that are open(with food) as far as I know. If the minister is talking about another lockdown then why don't they address the places where there are problem. A national lockdown including places where there are very low numbers and have been for months wouldn't be fair IMO. Deal with where the outbreaks have happened.

    Because human nature doesn’t respect boundaries.. also, genuine question as I don’t know, can the government bring in a law that only say... applies in for example...in Co Louth that wouldn’t apply elsewhere ?


  • #6270
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Lundstram wrote: »
    I'd gladly take a 20 day hard lockdown over this current nonsensical approach. Hard lockdown then close borders, tight. Give people 7 days notice to get home or stay out. No exceptions.

    And four weeks later after your 20 days, youd be in another 20 day 'hard' lockdown. Lather rinse repeat.


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  • #6271
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Here's a picture if it's easier. Please let me know what it is you don't understand. No need for a wall. Switch off Fox News. You may call it la la land but I think you may have drank too much of the cool-aide in head office.
    The Schengen Area ( /ˈʃɛŋən/) is an area comprising 26 European countries that have officially abolished all passport and all other types of border control at their mutual borders.

    The UK and Ireland have operated a Common Travel Area (CTA) since 1923 (with passport-free travel and freedom of movement with each other), but the UK would not abolish border controls with any other countries and therefore opted out of the Agreement. While not signing the Schengen Treaty, Ireland has always looked more favourably on joining, but has not done so in order to maintain the CTA and its open border with Northern Ireland.[

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