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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Civil unrest coming now.
    Enough is enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,284 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sports behind closed doors and avoid public transport

    What is actually the fûcking point in that. The whole point in mask wearing was to increase capacity of public transport and now they say dont use it

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/coronavirus-ireland-restrictions-no-more-spectators-at-sporting-events-and-people-should-avoid-public-transport-39459259.html

    Is Eamon Ryan going to provide bicycles for everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    How many cases are linked to spectators at sporting events in open air?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    rameire wrote: »
    ATM's are being shut down.
    Cash is being removed.

    Now there's something that I can get behind, we're heading that way anyway. My only concern is the dodgy landlords who'll have the hole in the wall up on Daft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,337 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    new restrictions will result in civil unrest.

    Lol...wonder what that would look like.
    Covid-19 forum denizens take to the streets with their tricolours and "RTE is the virus" signs!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    spookwoman wrote: »
    And the young don't get it or spread? :rolleyes:

    They don’t die or face major consequences- that is a good thing thankfully and a huge advantage. If it affected everyone uniformly then we’d be in big trouble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Kh1993


    The backlogged cases probably being announced today after new measures doesn't sit well with me tbh

    Absolutely. As absurd as it sounds that cases are held back for certain days and announcements, it’s starting to become a bit of a coincidence. Doesn’t take a tinfoil hat to see that.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    marno21 wrote: »
    31 positive tests in the last 24 hours. Backlog cases if they are announced.

    Glorified propaganda to justify the nonsense of today if they do release massive amounts of cases.

    You're misinterpreting the numbers you have, and you don't have access to most of them. Far more than 31 positives over the past 2 days.

    Nothing got to do with propaganda, these are real people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked



    Unless meat plants are also closed, just no, that is nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Arghus wrote: »
    Back when Harris, Varadkar and others were saying that about how long people can put up with restrictions I think they genuinely hadn't envisioned a situation where the virus would still be spreading going into the Autumn.
    I agree, I think the big failure in communication has been that the public hasn't been told that this is not going to end in a few weeks. It's been a worldwide failure really.

    Vaccine announcement by the end of this year, vaccination by mid next year is the best case scenario and still the likely scenario. In the meantime we need to help businesses survive, propping up ones which can open and supporting those which can't, and reboot everything next year as the vaccination program rolls out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Civil unrest coming now.
    Enough is enough

    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,344 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Civil unrest coming now.
    Enough is enough

    A convoy of cars to Croke Park to open it up for a kickabout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I think the competence platform is working. Every time MM and SD speak any illusion of competence is shattered

    Can MM just step down already, he's got his taoiseach pension, time to let someone slightly competent do the job.


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    Arghus wrote: »
    Back when Harris, Varadkar and others were saying that about how long people can put up with restrictions I think they genuinely hadn't envisioned a situation where the virus would still be spreading going into the Autumn. I think they accepted that it might take April, May and some of June, but the situation would have definitely righted itself by August, sure look we have a plan to have all the pubs open again by August 10th, things are surely going to be sound by then... There was a total naivete about how truly long and drawn out this is all going to be. Varadkar himself made comments during the week about how he was initially expecting it to be a sharp shock to the economy, but now reckons it's going to go on and on. That underlines to me how a essential misunderstanding of the reality - even a hopeful innocence - shaped everyone's thinking back in the early days.

    Something like this occurring was beyond all of our comprehension and understanding in January and February. And that includes all our leaders and decision makers. They aren't equipped really to dealing with this, like we're all not really equipped to dealing with this. There's no set playbook with guaranteed outcomes that we can turn too. And that drives people crazy, but, unfortunately, that's the nature of what we're dealing with here. What's the point of the government saying this will all be over in x or y weeks or months? They don't know that. No one does. Could be five months, could be twenty months. People don't want to accept that uncertainty. They want to be told that it's all overblown and that things will be totally fine once all those restrictions are lifted or that this plan will 100% work. Not going to happen. It's delusional, but delusion can be very appealing, especially at a time like this of great stress and worry.

    As it turns out you can't just make something like this go away by adding time to the equation. I'm sure the government would love to eradicate this virus tomorrow and throw open the doors to businesses everywhere, but it's not as simple as that. Restrictions are going to continue, because the alternative to restrictions is more virus and that's never going to be seriously countenanced by government. Right now we have a two thirds functional economy, but if we take the foot of the brakes we'll be right back, eventually, in even more restrictions than we already have. It's inevitable. And that's more damaging potentially to the economy and society than what we're currently going through.

    There was a clear understanding among anyone who understood anything about the virus that it would still be going on in the Autumn. The original conception of the restrictions was to prevent surges in the health system, not eliminate the virus. Maybe some started to believe when the measures had such a dramatic impact that elimination was possible, but it was never the primary function


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭snowgal


    maybe this is all a fake lead to enrage us so then when Mee halll comes out to tell us no we're actually doing x y and z and we'll be like oh phew, thats ok so! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot



    Very interested to hear the logic on this. Seems like every environment "but schools" are unsafe because that's exactly the message they are giving. 30 people in a small room for hours is fine. 200 people in a much larger outdoor setting for 120 minutes is not safe. With 2 weeks to schools opening, I am not loving the mixed messages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,893 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I think the competence platform is working. Every time MM and SD speak any illusion of competence is shattered

    And then the lovely Norma is not allowed to speak all, so what does that say about her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Civil unrest coming now.
    Enough is enough





    Calm yourself rambo go for a walk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    No there's something that I can get behind, we're heading that way anyway. My only concern is the dodgy landlords who'll have the hole in the wall up on Daft.

    i haven't used cash in about 4 months. still, a ban on ATMs would cause a panic run on money which we don't need right now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    hmmm wrote: »
    Eh...no. Go over to the Restrictions thread where you'll find the revolutionaries.

    You mean the keyboard warriors who in real life do exactly as they are told to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    No doubt a huge number this evening to try and justify these insane measures.

    The COVID obsession in this country is off the charts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,284 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The backlogged cases probably being announced today after new measures doesn't sit well with me tbh

    Will we ever get clear honest reporting from them at the briefings

    There must be large clusters of positive cases from sporting events that they are now behind closed doors, I thought outside was safer than inside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


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    Amirani wrote: »
    You're misinterpreting the numbers you have, and you don't have access to most of them. Far more than 31 positives over the past 2 days.

    Nothing got to do with propaganda, these are real people.

    Really? C'mon, you can't surely be that naive?

    "Real people" they may be but, when that ever matter to the Governments in this country?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    The restrictions are pretty light. It reeks of making an attempt to be seeing to be doing something without actually doing a whole lot to reduce the spread of the virus. Get on top of Civil Servants for a start and force them to actually go into the field and inspect the meat plants daily. Split up direct provision centres, investigate the allegations of labour employed by meat plants not paying into the Irish tax system. These are meaningful actions.

    Waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,284 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Can MM just step down already, he's got his taoiseach pension, time to let someone slightly competent do the job.

    I nominate vote ACE of Boards.ie party


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    They're taking their time with this conference. No doubt some speechwriter is trying to spin all these things into a positive.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Civil unrest coming now.
    Enough is enough

    Nowhere near it. Stop spouting nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    The restrictions are pretty light. It reeks of making an attempt to be seeing to be doing something without actually doing a whole lot to reduce the spread of the virus. Get on top of Civil Servants for a start and force them to actually go into the field and inspect the meat plants daily.

    Waste of time.

    I wouldn't mind if there was proper reason behind them but this stinks of doing something for the sake of it. As you say seen to doing something.

    Makes absolutely no sense


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭growleaves


    A ban on cash will lead to a black market in unofficial currencies. Would be interested to know what the penalty for holding such would be.


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