Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

MOR316 · 18-08-2020 04:22PM

I'll still be using public transport once a week.

**** them

Antics21 · 18-08-2020 04:23PM

froog wrote: »

sporting events have been identified as high risk right since the start for obvious reasons and were one of the first things to be shut down.

why do people need an actual outbreak before the government react? like the nursing homes? the meat factories? i would have thought a big of preempting for once would be welcome.

No. Mass gatherings were.
200 people at a gaa field or stadium is not a mass gathering. Especially when players were counted as part of it.

celt262 · 18-08-2020 04:23PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

Nothing has been announced? Has it? Just save yer breath for later hot porridge. It will have been an awful waste of afternoon angst if it doesn't happen.

A few weeks ago it was doing the rounds that the crowds at games was going to be increased and then it didn't happen could be another false report. Hope so anyway.

Van.Bosch · 18-08-2020 04:24PM

Antics21 wrote: »

No. Mass gatherings were.
200 people at a gaa field or stadium is not a mass gathering. Especially when players were counted as part of it.

Exactly - and it’s outdoors, you could have 200 in a playground which is smaller area.

rameire · 18-08-2020 04:24PM

ATM's are being shut down.
Cash is being removed.

18-08-2020 04:26PM

froog wrote: »

sporting events have been identified as high risk right since the start for obvious reasons and were one of the first things to be shut down.

why do people need an actual outbreak before the government react? like the nursing homes? the meat factories? i would have thought a big of preempting for once would be welcome.

50,000 people in the Aviva is very different to 50 in the local pitch. The more time people spend outdoors the better, because even if the do come in contact with a case the risk of transmission is low. What do we do, ban people from going to outdoor sports and tell older people to stay inside. If these groups have no outlet, they are far more likely to visit each other, indoors, increasing the risk of spread. Having an outlet for people to congregate in small numbers in relatively safe environments is a measure that I believe will reduce not increase spread

kksaints · 18-08-2020 04:27PM

I assume indoor gatherings such as plays and religious services will be behind closed doors also?

stephenjmcd · 18-08-2020 04:27PM

froog wrote: »

sporting events have been identified as high risk right since the start for obvious reasons and were one of the first things to be shut down.

why do people need an actual outbreak before the government react? like the nursing homes? the meat factories? i would have thought a big of preempting for once would be welcome.

No they haven't, 200 total in a ground was not a public health risk according to glynn 2 weeks ago.

The 200 includes players , media, medics and whatever space is left for fans. Usually 50 or less in massive outdoor spaces.

50k in the aviva is high risk. 200 people spread out is not

froog · 18-08-2020 04:27PM

Antics21 wrote: »

Why stop at matches so?
Close beaches. Close greenways where there is little space between people using it.
Close zoos and outdoor parks.
This is nonsense stuff. Unless they have suddenly pinpointed that the spikes aren't related to factories and workers living conditions but actually relate to the small crowds that were in at games then its just a dart thrown at a board kind of logic.

i'm sure it's just one of the things being introduced. let's wait and see.

maebee · 18-08-2020 04:29PM

rameire wrote: »

ATM's are being shut down.
Cash is being removed.

Who is shutting them down? Do you have a link to this please ram?

irishguy1983 · 18-08-2020 04:30PM

I’m confused...Like there was only 200 at the sporting event?! They will have 40/50 at an event no? Considering players, physio, etc. Does it make a big difference or maybe I am missing something?

rob316 · 18-08-2020 04:30PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Time for the government to tell the truth.

Our health system is so crap that we cant risk any sort of spike. The rest of Europe will be able to reopen but we are going to have to wait till a vaccine or herd immunity come along.

That is really the crux of it. They don't have a brain or inclination to fix it either so it's just easier to continue borrowing billions that will never be paid back.

ACitizenErased · 18-08-2020 04:31PM

Dont use public transport

But kids can without distancing? What???

tweniebaby · 18-08-2020 04:31PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How do you know they didn't have it? You only got tested if symptomatic.

I've spoken to some of them since and they've all said they were grand, no symptoms etc. One is related to me so I've no reason to doubt them tbh. At what point did they start testing all close contacts?

*Not disputing that there could have been/still be those who are asymptomatic, but given the size of area it's surprising that there are still only less than 5 confirmed cases since March

ShamNNspace · 18-08-2020 04:31PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

50,000 people in the Aviva is very different to 50 in the local pitch. The more time people spend outdoors the better, because even if the do come in contact with a case the risk of transmission is low. What do we do, ban people from going to outdoor sports and tell older people to stay inside. If these groups have no outlet, they are far more likely to visit each other, indoors, increasing the risk of spread. Having an outlet for people to congregate in small numbers in relatively safe environments is a measure that I believe will reduce not increase spread

+ its easier to hone in on clusters in the case of an outbreak and test if everyones contact details are taken at the gate

Turtwig · 18-08-2020 04:31PM

Can we uh wait and see what is actually proposed before knocking down phantom totems?

snowgal · 18-08-2020 04:32PM

I have to say, IF this is all announced by Meeee hallllll, its crazy decision. I can go to the cinema, inside with 49 people for hours and thats fine but I cant go and watch my nephew playing in a big wide open field for an hour???? Also avoid transport......what???

seamus · 18-08-2020 04:33PM

MOR316 wrote: »

I'll still be using public transport once a week.

**** them

It looks like the majority of the new restrictions will be applying to over-70s, including the advice to avoid public transport.

antodeco · 18-08-2020 04:34PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Can we uh wait and see what is actually proposed before knocking down phantom totems?

That's the kinda talk that the staff who work at Clayton Hotel on Pearse Street have!

Gruffalux · 18-08-2020 04:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A list of some viruses that casue myocarditis

Coxsackie (A,

Adenovirus (Common cold)

Influenza (A,

Herpes simplex

Cytomegalovirus

Varicella-zoster virus (Chicken Pox)

Epstein-Barr virus

Mumps

Rubella

Rubeola (Measles)

Vaccinia (used as part of small pox vaccine)

Rabies

Coronavirus (the plain old common cold variety)

Hepatitis B

HIV

https://westjem.com/case-report/fatal-influenza-b-myocarditis-in-a-34-year-old-female.html

Yes...buuuuutttttt..

Rabies - fairly fecken unfortunate if you manage to catch rabies.
HIV - ya can't get it from picking your nose after touching the petrol pump.
Common colds and flus - there is a lot of built up immunity in the population against these things. I have only ever got the flu once.
Mumps, rubella, measles, chicken pox - we usually get them as kids if we get them, there are vaccines and some immunity probably from breastfeeding anyway. And then we have good immunity after the childhood wars.
Hep B and Herpes - first has vaccine, both require a certain amount of slobber exchange, so are not as easy to catch as picking your nose after you call the lift.
Epstein Barr - again slobber. 90% of us have had it. 1 in 100000 get myocarditis from it which is 0.001%. I'll take me chances.

Coxsackie and cytomegolamia

- never heard of them. Glad to have never heard of them.

Re Covid most of us have zero proven immunity. So if it causes even smallish amounts of inflammation of heart that could be big numbers on macro scale and no thanks, I still don't want it.

road_high · 18-08-2020 04:34PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Plenty of noise about FG being unhappy. Will we see Leo break rank this evening?

I doubt it. He’ll tow the consensus line for now at least...

hmmm · 18-08-2020 04:35PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Plenty of noise about FG being unhappy. Will we see Leo break rank this evening?

FG are taking advantage of being in opposition while being in government, it's just bluster in my opinion. I don't think going to the country on a platform of relaxing restrictions would be a good campaign strategy. FG need to run on a competence platform, and their opportunity would come if cases looked like they were getting out of control.

MOR316 · 18-08-2020 04:35PM

seamus wrote: »

It looks like the majority of the new restrictions will be applying to over-70s, including the advice to avoid public transport.

Point still stands that though.

**** them!

spookwoman · 18-08-2020 04:35PM

seamus wrote: »

It looks like the majority of the new restrictions will be applying to over-70s, including the advice to avoid public transport.

Will those whinging about the young being restricted have anything to say about the elderly having their lives restricted more.

MD1990 · 18-08-2020 04:36PM

seems like they want to shut everything down & just have kids going to school & essential workers.

manofwisdom · 18-08-2020 04:37PM

Absolutely ridiculous decision to have sports behind closed doors. This government have lost the plot

road_high · 18-08-2020 04:37PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Will those whinging about the young being restricted have anything to say about the elderly having their lives restricted more.

But the young aren’t affected to the same extent. They are not going to die potentially. Measures only work when they equate to risk.

ACitizenErased · 18-08-2020 04:38PM

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1295746694982795268?s=20

stephenjmcd · 18-08-2020 04:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1295746694982795268?s=20

He's right but cabinet has passed this. Absolute joke

road_high · 18-08-2020 04:38PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Absolutely ridiculous decision to have sports behind closed doors. This government have lost the plot

Unless that’s been a large contributor to cases I really fail to see what that achieves

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