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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #4832
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Naos wrote: »
    I've said it before here but many other EU countries have very different views on pubs than we have. Just look at how we've reacted, trying to find loopholes left, right & centre to stay in the pub longer, publicans serving drink without food been served etc. Happening everywhere, I seen it the other day in Maynooth.



    Are you genuinely asking that? What would happen in a normal situation if 8 people needed the loo, do most houses have 8 toilets?

    No, you'd just wait until whoever went to the toilet came back.

    I think this is a bit of a myth, fair enough we might get more drunk but in terms of being packed into establishments and all over each other, i think you will find its a lot worse in Italian, Spanish or French cities.


  • #4833
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well its a fact isn't it ?

    During lockdown we were told stay at home, don't be visiting even your family.There were still house parties on, we all heard of them and saw them. Birthday parties, BBQs etc

    Do you think any limit on numbers in a house is going to stop that now ?

    If people were having them then back when we were supposed to be in lockdown they'll have them now. Especially when there is absolutely nothing to stop them.

    I don't know what your point is. Are you saying there shouldn't be guidelines because people will just break them anyway?

    It's gas, the rest of the world is opening up because they're following the guidelines, wearing masks, social distancing etc. but we're still in phase 3 with extra restrictions because we've chancers running factories and people having massive parties. If the video of that Berlin bar was seen globally we'd be the laughing stock of the world, 'World's worst pandemic but that won't stop the Irish partying'.


  • #4834
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,463 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    feelings wrote: »
    Expect to see ~150 cases today.

    We had all this crap with posters trying to out predict each other in the early days. It was totally inappropriate then and remains so now. Stick to commenting about actual rather than guessed figures


  • #4835
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Seems the mask chin wearers are out in force today. If only common sense was common..!

    Are you seeing them inside or outside?


  • #4836
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Communist liars.

    The level of discourse has seriously nosedived the past couple of pages with this unthinking US style right wing boilerplate.


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  • #4837
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Are people going back into offices in Ireland and England?

    I requested that I be allowed to stay working from home but my boss said that people down South were returning to offices. Is that true?


  • #4838
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Renjit wrote: »
    The color depends on many factor like how objects interact with lights, spectrum of light, and the light that reaches us after reflection or refraction. At the end your eyes perceive colors differently from others to some degree. Other creatures see spectrum which we cannot, the colors differ even more.

    Which goes back to the original contention - the OP would disagree with the responder even if he said the sky was blue. Well its only blue from one perspective, so disagreeing with someone because you have a different perspective on the subject does not necessarily mean that one is right and the other is wrong, just perceive different aspects of the same vista


  • #4839
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,762 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests


  • #4840
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Why can Sweden do what they do, yet the paddy's are living in constant restrictions being changed on a daily basis?
    None of the Irish ministers have the balls to take responsibility, and even with c19 being a minister is high paid and the job role entails a person to govern. We have a non government body running the country, there is the issue.


  • #4841
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Brilliant

    That's very low

    0.71% positive rate


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  • #4842
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I don't know what your point is. Are you saying there shouldn't be guidelines because people will just break them anyway?

    It's gas, the rest of the world is opening up because they're following the guidelines, wearing masks, social distancing etc. but we're still in phase 3 with extra restrictions because we've chancers running factories and people having massive parties. If the video of that Berlin bar was seen globally we'd be the laughing stock of the world, 'World's worst pandemic but that won't stop the Irish partying'.

    New York opened and closed bars again because people were having street parties....

    Italy has had to close it's nightclubs because of a rise in cases

    UK is doing local lockdown including shutting pubs......

    So why do you think ireland would be a laughing stock??


  • #4843
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Brilliant

    That's very low

    0.71% positive rate

    Would have to see it like this for several days before getting confidence.

    Well probably still announce 70 or 80 cases this evening


  • #4844
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,296 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Not including the mushroom cluster??


  • #4845
    Poorside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    Onesea wrote: »
    Why can Sweden do what they do, yet the paddy's are living in constant restrictions being changed on a daily basis?
    None of the Irish ministers have the balls to take responsibility, and even with c19 being a minister is high paid and the job role entails a person to govern. We have a non government body running the country, there is the issue.


    Because we live in a different country, very straightforward really.


  • #4846
    feelings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭feelings


    I didn't "guess" the figure. I haven't commented on others figures. Look back at my posts. I have been fairly accurate with my numbers.
    Beasty wrote: »
    We had all this crap with posters trying to out predict each other in the early days. It was totally inappropriate then and remains so now. Stick to commenting about actual rather than guessed figures


  • #4847
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Are people going back into offices in Ireland and England?

    I requested that I be allowed to stay working from home but my boss said that people down South were returning to offices. Is that true?

    We were told last week, 1st October at the earliest now, but most of us where i work assume we won't be back this year. Lots of friends too in different companies not going back either. I work in IT though, so my job doesn't need me to be in the office, and even pre lockdown, I did days at home.


  • #4848
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    US2 wrote: »
    Would have to see it like this for several days before getting confidence.

    Well probably still announce 70 or 80 cases this evening

    Absolutely but it starts with one day first

    Still think the numbers will be high with the backlog of positive swabs from yesterday added in


  • #4849
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I don't know what your point is. Are you saying there shouldn't be guidelines because people will just break them anyway?

    It's gas, the rest of the world is opening up because they're following the guidelines, wearing masks, social distancing etc. but we're still in phase 3 with extra restrictions because we've chancers running factories and people having massive parties. If the video of that Berlin bar was seen globally we'd be the laughing stock of the world, 'World's worst pandemic but that won't stop the Irish partying'.

    Your comment was,
    "The 6 max in a house is a guideline to help stop the spread and any decent human will follow it. The way people are making it to be some north Korean type human right violation".

    I'm saying what difference does telling people now 6 at a house make when there wasn't supposed to be anyone at any houses during lockdown but yet house parties were on the whole time and still continue to be on.

    If the guideline wasn't followed in March & April its not going to be followed now.


  • #4850
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Cheers ACE. Good to see you back after some of the agro you got yesterday!

    I, for one, enjoy your posts as by Christ we all need a bit of optimism at the moment.


  • #4851
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    titan18 wrote: »
    We were told last week, 1st October at the earliest now, but most of us where i work assume we won't be back this year. Lots of friends too in different companies not going back either. I work in IT though, so my job doesn't need me to be in the office, and even pre lockdown, I did days at home.

    Same, our company have allowed some in to the office under very strict conditions if they need to, due to say small apartments, issues at home, etc, but we're not expected back at all and it'll be up to the individual. They're putting in long term plans now as many people realise being at home full time is a runner.

    Also in IT, did working from home once a week or so before, but the predicted pain from the whole company (11,000+) being at home didn't happen at all. Lots down to proactive response from the company, but plenty was just the mental model of feeling you had to be in the office frequently.


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  • #4852
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Wow, that is absolutely fantastic. Massive drop in positivity rate. :)


  • #4853
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Good number that, only 1 day but good nonetheless.

    Now take into account the postives from the weekend that weren't reported yesterday, probably still looking at a large enough number being "confirmed" today but aren't necessarily from today


  • #4854
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    31 positive swabs last 24hrs from 4339 tests

    Superb. I was afraid it would be closer to 100 and a result in a huge number of new cases later.


  • #4855
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Good number that, only 1 day but good nonetheless.

    Now take into account the postives from the weekend that weren't reported yesterday, probably still looking at a large enough number being "confirmed" today but aren't necessarily from today

    The daily figures aren't relevant, it's the 7 day average that needs to be looked at and those figures arent looking good.


  • #4856
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Absolutely but it starts with one day first

    Still think the numbers will be high with the backlog of positive swabs from yesterday added in

    Totally agree. Assuming backlog cleared to night we should be in better shape tomorrow.


  • #4857
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Totally agree. Assuming backlog cleared to night we should be in better shape tomorrow.

    Yes going to be interesting

    I fully expect to see the mushroom plant numbers included today


  • #4858
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    The daily figures aren't relevant, it's the 7 day average that needs to be looked at and those figures arent looking good.

    Today Hub Numbers and as we have been told the hospitals are testing everyone coming in.

    Hospital tests 2761 Lab tests 1578


  • #4859
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,086 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    Cheers ACE. Good to see you back after some of the agro you got yesterday!

    I, for one, enjoy your posts as by Christ we all need a bit of optimism at the moment.

    I echo this sentiment.


  • #4860
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,712 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    titan18 wrote: »
    We were told last week, 1st October at the earliest now, but most of us where i work assume we won't be back this year. Lots of friends too in different companies not going back either. I work in IT though, so my job doesn't need me to be in the office, and even pre lockdown, I did days at home.

    Yeah that's what I thought. She's (the boss) is a bit of a spoofer to be honest. I can quite comfortably work from home as my work is all online and not front facing.


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  • #4861
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Totally agree. Assuming backlog cleared to night we should be in better shape tomorrow.

    We might see a medium-high number tonight, so can expect the usual "But there were only 31 tests". Presume the mushroom clusters were in yesterdays postive count and will be in tonight's case count.


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