Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

stephenjmcd wrote: »

What are you on about?

259 postive swabs in last 48hrs. 122 cases announced

137 outstanding / unaccounted for in announced cases. Bit of a backlog there for whatever reason.

Its not conspiracy but for some reason not all new cases have been reported yet for the last 48hrs. There's no getting around that.

Arghus wrote: »

It's a conspiracy theory that's become widely accepted in the thread. Along the lines of NPHET are massaging the numbers to suit themselves depending on what outcome they want. Apparently there's some reason why they want to do this. It's all part of some deliberate nefarious plan, because they are big meanies who hate us. As opposed to just being plan old quirks in how these things are reported.

6 wrote: »

Great post. Deserves a re-post

Irish Steve wrote: »

NO,,,, NO,,,,,NO, that statement is over simplifying the situation.

There are indeed 19 CONFIRMED Hospitalised cases of Covid, with 8 of them in intensive care.

There are ALSO 136 SUSPECTED Hospitalised cases of Covid, with 7 of them in ICU.

At the same time, there were a total of 412 general beds available across the health service, and 42 ICU beds available .

The people at the sharp end of the health service have been working under massive pressure and stress for nearly 6 months, and they really need to see some improvements in the numbers, not more people becoming victims as a result of an increase in cases.

There is very little spare capacity, in terms of beds, and more importantly staff to cope with a surge in numbers, and some of the issues that are causing the spikes need to be addressed.

Pubs/Restaurants need to be being monitored very closely, as there are known weak spots in the system that can result in an increase in infection/spread.

There are specific issues in the meat processing plants (and other large processing companies) that are contributing to risk. Too many people living in shared accomodation and sharing vehicles to travel to and from work, so they are effectively an extended family bubble that is not just work related, it's also then travel and living situations, and I'm not just talking about direct provision, which is another issue.

The spike in cases across Europe is making the whole holiday travel situation even more non viable than it was, and at the same time, there are new community transmission cases showing up in all of the 26 counties, so even travelling within Ireland is starting to look like an issue.

The economy can't be allowed to shut down, and the schools need to get back into action, for the sake of the mental health of the students, as well as their long term education, so in the absence of an effective vaccine, we have to urgently try and find a way to live with this virus that really does work to limit the spread.

I don't know if it's Covid fatigue, or if the virus has somehow mutated, whichever it is, the relevant medical professionals need to make sure they are getting their analysis right, and that they don't allow the politicians to dilute their recommendations in ways that will cause even more ongoing problems that make the situation worse.

seamus wrote: »

In the week of 21st - 27th March, 13,300 tests picked up roughly 1,500 cases. on a positivity rate of 10-11%

In the week of 6th - 12th April (just picked one at random), we did just shy of 20,500 tests, and had a positive rate of 21%. There's no decimal point missing there. Twenty-one percent of all people tested, had Coronavirus.

In the last seven days, we did just short of 47,000 tests, with a positivity rate of 1.2%.

The raw new case numbers are scary perhaps, but we are still a million miles away from the conditions we had in March.

In many respects it's like in March we were out with a small torch looking for cockroaches and finding them everywhere. Now we're searching with a massive spotlight and only finding them in isolated corners, and in small numbers.

spookwoman wrote: »

One little thing about the testing criteria was way tighter back at the end of march so % would be higher

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

You had to be running a temp to get a test back then right? Surely that would drive the positivity rate way up.

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s happening in homes and workplaces. People visiting each other, and to some extent having party’s , and people working closely to each other with poor or inadequate ventilation such as meat plants and mushroom tunnels

Gruffalox wrote: »

I firmly believe that we had extremely high case numbers in March and April. Like 10,000 a day at peak. We came through that unknowingly in a way. It would horrify us now.
It is the only way we can attempt to match seroprevalance results with their implied numbers. (T cells would give numbers like 20,000, 30,000, even 40,000 as a daily tally back at peak if T cell theory is correct (though I await more evidence on the T cell theory). )

The lockdown brought the virus infections right down. The measures like masks, SD, hygiene etc are helping keep numbers down but what also helps is the virus itself is not rampant like it obviously eas becoming in February. Many Older people are still semi-cocooning. We have much lower numbers now. Really so much lower even though it sounds like 200 is a fifth of peak daily cases. It is more likely a fiftieth of peak daily cases. Really.
Much higher detection. Reflected in lower hospitalisations. Reflected in almost no deaths. We have done really well.

There is a recent uptick. Time will tell if it will veer towards the incredible growth rates we saw in March. Contributing factors are quite different now. Less ignorance. More systems in place. But exponential growth could still happen. No one knows. This is almost the only time I have ever wished I had a time machine. I would key in late November in the settings...