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  • #8312
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    ixoy wrote: »
    Watching a episode of 'The Great' today, set during the reign of Catherine the Great. Even then, they were giving out to her for not wearing a mask during a small pox outbreak and that was in the late 1700s...

    Masks were historically used for preventing the naive from infection. Not the other way around.


  • #8313
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    No: other
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I picked up a glasses shield visor, are they good?

    Hurling helmet with cling film wrapped around it is good


  • #8314
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    Could try it with flammable aerosols :p

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6cTDGqcUpA


  • #8315
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Masks were historically used for preventing the naive from infection. Not the other way around.

    I'd love to hear more about this.


  • #8316
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Yes: surgical
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I picked up a glasses shield visor, are they good?

    Better than nothing but still not all that effective if not worn in conjunction with a facemask.


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  • #8317
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Yes: surgical
    seefin wrote: »
    Probably an obvious question . Have a good few double layer cloth masks. See an awful lot of people with the blue disposable ones. Do they offer better protection . Have read that medical masks are better but are they different to the disposable ones you can buy in lidl etc? Medical masks have metal strip around nose?

    Can't speak to their effectiveness vs others, but I find them far, far comfier due to much less of that muggy type feeling that builds up in the cloth masks. I've also got stubble which either type catches on, but they are larger to I find myself needing to readjust the chin/nose way less often.

    One thing I have read recently though is that masks with valves are less effective.


  • #8318
    Dubl07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    Yes: other
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I picked up a glasses shield visor, are they good?

    In conjunction with a mask, yes. Alone, no.


  • #8319
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Masks were historically used for preventing the naive from infection. Not the other way around.

    Why would you want to protect an infection from a naïve person?

    :confused:


  • #8320
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Why would you want to protect an infection from a naïve person?

    :confused:

    I think we should protect virus from Tickers at this stage.


  • #8321
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Why would you want to protect an infection from a naïve person? :confused:

    Naive here means 'naive of the infection', as in wearing a mask to protect an uninfected person directly from the outbreak.
    As opposed to now, we are are being asked to wear a mask to stop the spread from an infected person to an uninfected \ naive person.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #8322
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Naive here means 'naive of the infection', as in wearing a mask to protect an uninfected person directly from the outbreak.
    As opposed to now, we are are being asked to wear a mask to stop the spread from an infected person to an uninfected \ naive person.

    Woooosssh!!!!


  • #8323
    Spiderman0081
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    If cases keep going up in countries where mask wearing is mandatory, will those who believe in the effectiveness of mask say that there would be more cases if people didn’t wear masks?
    Will those who wear masks blame those who don’t wear masks for the increasing number of cases?
    Can the rising number of cases be attributed to not wearing masks correctly?
    How many people who wear masks wear them exactly in the correct manor? For example, how many of those who touch their masks, which is literally a breeding ground for bacteria, wash their hands immediately before touching any other object?


  • #8324
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Spiderman0081 wrote: »
    If cases keep going up in countries where mask wearing is mandatory, will those who believe in the effectiveness of mask say that there would be more cases if people didn’t wear masks?
    Will those who wear masks blame those who don’t wear masks for the increasing number of cases?
    Can the rising number of cases be attributed to not wearing masks correctly?
    How many people who wear masks wear them exactly in the correct manor? For example, how many of those who touch their masks, which is literally a breeding ground for bacteria, wash their hands immediately before touching any other object?

    Yes.
    No.
    No way of knowing.
    Don't know.


  • #8325
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    Non surgical/medical grade face coverings:

    Face coverings are encouraged because they restrict the spread from an infected person to a non infected person. They do this simply by reducing the distance traveled by droplets.

    Face coverings won't stop you inhaling the virus if it reaches your face covering.

    If you could be 100% confident that you do not have the virus there is no point in you wearing a face covering.

    You can not be 100% certain that you do not have the virus. Asymptomatic carriers are the cause of the virulence of this curse.

    Ergo, cover your face in indoor public settings. It's not a conspiracy.


  • #8326
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ixoy wrote: »
    Watching a episode of 'The Great' today, set during the reign of Catherine the Great. Even then, they were giving out to her for not wearing a mask during a small pox outbreak and that was in the late 1700s...

    Is that historically accurate though?

    The most notable thing about the Russian Plague of 1770-72 was the violent refusal of ordinary people to go along with restrictions. Riots, a mob invasion of the Kremlin and the Archbishop of Moscow was killed when he tried to shut down churches.


  • #8327
    Living Off The Splash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭Living Off The Splash


    Yes: homemade
    I observed a woman in Brown Thomas Grafton Street today with two children. She was walking around the store with a phone to her ear and not wearing a mask. She had an unused mask in her hand. She left the store and immediately the phone came away from her ear. She started talking to her children. She then crossed the road to Marks and Spencer directly opposite. As she went in the door the phone came back up to her ear.

    These stores should have a dedicated person stopping this type of trickery. Let them tell the person to finish their call outside.


  • #8328
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    I've been using the disposable masks up until now as I only had to wear them for a short period of time, going to the shop etc. Any recommendations for masks that are more comfortable, i.e. can wear for a few hours with no issues? Find it a little harder to breath if I'm wearing the disposable mask for more than a few minutes.


  • #8329
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    I observed a woman in Brown Thomas Grafton Street today with two children. She was walking around the store with a phone to her ear and not wearing a mask. She had an unused mask in her hand. She left the store and immediately the phone came away from her ear. She started talking to her children. She then crossed the road to Marks and Spencer directly opposite. As she went in the door the phone came back up to her ear.

    These stores should have a dedicated person stopping this type of trickery. Let them tell the person to finish their call outside.

    Sounds like way more of a PITA to keep up that charade than to actually wear the mask. Some people.


  • #8330
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    sterz wrote: »
    I've been using the disposable masks up until now as I only had to wear them for a short period of time, going to the shop etc. Any recommendations for masks that are more comfortable, i.e. can wear for a few hours with no issues? Find it a little harder to breath if I'm wearing the disposable mask for more than a few minutes.
    I have only been wearing surgical type masks myself, they seem to be the lighest and easier to breath in, expecially in hot weather.
    I understand from reading different sources that the FFP2-FFP3 are harder to breath in, unless they have a valve.


  • #8331
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    No: other
    Living Off The Splash wrote: »
    I observed a woman in Brown Thomas Grafton Street today with two children. She was walking around the store with a phone to her ear and not wearing a mask. She had an unused mask in her hand. She left the store and immediately the phone came away from her ear. She started talking to her children. She then crossed the road to Marks and Spencer directly opposite. As she went in the door the phone came back up to her ear.

    These stores should have a dedicated person stopping this type of trickery. Let them tell the person to finish their call outside.

    Did you follow her home too?


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  • #8332
    McGiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭McGiver


    No: I don't care enough
    French cases increasing.

    French doctors recommending mandating masks in workplaces and in all indoor spaces.

    It will be introduced here eventually too. I would prefer the gov not wasting time this time as they did in April to June.


  • #8333
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    Yes: surgical
    Anyone having issues with peripheral vision while wearing masks? I have tripped and fallen a couple of times and jarred my back after missing steps.


  • #8334
    RoYoBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    Yes: valved
    otnomart wrote: »
    I have only been wearing surgical type masks myself, they seem to be the lighest and easier to breath in, expecially in hot weather.
    I understand from reading different sources that the FFP2-FFP3 are harder to breath in, unless they have a valve.

    My OH has similar difficulties so I bought a pack of KN95 masks (the Chinese equivalent versions) from the US to see if these might work .... and they did! They are light and have a shape that allows more space to breathe. In as much as anyone 'likes' wearing a mask, he's happy enough.

    I bought from Iherb on a special offer - think it was something like $9 for 5, but more when not on special. Not cheap, especially with shipping, but he only wears them briefly in a shop and I'm using my Instant Pot or the sun to dry sterilise and re-use afterwards.


  • #8335
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
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  • #8336
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Yes: surgical
    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Anyone having issues with peripheral vision while wearing masks? I have tripped and fallen a couple of times and jarred my back after missing steps.

    Nope. No issues at all. What type of mask are you wearing?


  • #8337
    Tipperary animal lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Tipperary animal lover


    Yes: homemade
    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Anyone having issues with peripheral vision while wearing masks? I have tripped and fallen a couple of times and jarred my back after missing steps.

    You are suppose to wear the mask over your mouth not your eyes ... only joking no I've been wearing them from months now never a problem


  • #8338
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    McGiver wrote: »
    French cases increasing.

    French doctors recommending mandating masks in workplaces and in all indoor spaces.

    It will be introduced here eventually too. I would prefer the gov not wasting time this time as they did in April to June.

    It will happen here after the UK mandates them. What can possibly go wrong with increasing cases every day.


  • #8339
    Xtrail14
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 253 ✭✭Xtrail14


    Getting fairly annoying now wearing a mask to be honest, no end in sight.


  • #8340
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    No: other
    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    Anyone having issues with peripheral vision while wearing masks? I have tripped and fallen a couple of times and jarred my back after missing steps.

    very difficult with a cloth mask and glasses, i find the surgical ones much better. havent fallen though. glasses are varifocal which probably doesnt help
    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    It will happen here after the UK mandates them. What can possibly go wrong with increasing cases every day.

    they'll mandate them everywhere apart from where clusters are actually happening on current form

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



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  • #8341
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Xtrail14 wrote: »
    Getting fairly annoying now wearing a mask to be honest, no end in sight.

    I'll wear all the masks I can if it means reducing the viral load and so I may not get it as bad.


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