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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #3032
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Here's the event from Berlin.

    https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/baked-brunch-tickets-116526468805
    I actually saw the ad for this on fb earlier. Dopes.
    TICKETS ARE A MERE €25 EURO PER PERSON WHICH INCLUDES YOUR ADMISH, YOUR DISH, A SHOT AND A HELL OF A HOOLY!
    TICKETS WILL BE SOLD PER TABLE AND WILL BE LIMITED DUE TO DISTANCING RULES SO GRAB YOUR BAKED BUDS AND GET YOUR TABLE!

    Jaysus. Admish. And distancing rules.


  • #3033
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,475 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Was pubs in Dame Lane and Temple Bar jammers a few times now?

    Apologies if I am wrong
    I am pretty sure it was people drinking mostly their own drink (though maybe some takeaway pints) in Dame lane, but that has been stamped out.
    The video in a packed pub in Temple bar was before pubs were forced to close as well.

    This berlin place has been taking the piss with opening late etc as well so has form


  • #3034
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    normanoffside wrote: »
    The government are eventually going have to come out with a positive campaign to tell people Covid is not as bad as first thought because otherwise too many people are going to be paralysed with the fear they have instilled in them to get the country back to some normality.

    MM and FF have gone quiet, are they holidaying? Simon Harris seems to still be encouraging vigilance and care
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #3035
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    To anybody defending the video, you're part of the problem and not the solution.
    I remember a certain video in Dame Lane long ago caused a ****storm in the days after. But's it's also unfair to punish the actual restaurants who make the majority of their income from food. Any row back on restrictions should be on restaurants not being able to sell alcohol, that would swiftly stop the 'pub' abuse.
    Ideally, just have massive fines for non compliant businesses, it's a business in the end, their motive is profit.


  • #3036
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Jaysus. Admish. And distancing rules.

    Wouldn't be like an advertisement to entice


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  • #3037
    Rambling Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭Rambling Man


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Was pubs in Dame Lane and Temple Bar jammers a few times now?

    Apologies if I am wrong

    No they were not jammers. Crowds congregated in the area near them and the Garda Commissioner confirmed it was a public order issue and not a pub licensing violation.


  • #3038
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,475 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Jaysus. Admish. And distancing rules.
    Baked buds?!? Like the beer?


  • #3039
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Wouldn't be like an advertisement to entice

    Maybe your not hip and cool anymore. Don't worry your not alone wouldn't entice me either.


  • #3040
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Polar101


    GooglePlus wrote: »

    The only problem with this video is that there are people clearly enjoying themselves and there isn't a 9 euro meal in shot.

    The only problem? People can go to a pub, and enjoy themselves without acting like complete idiots. If there weren't idiots like this, then we could have "non-food" pubs actually opening sometime soon.


  • #3041
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    If there wasn't a man dancing on the bar, there wouldn't be half the outrage.

    It's bad optics (joke in there somewhere) but realistically it's tame as **** and not a story unless you are willing to be part of the outraged.

    People are fighting and getting further into debt to get their businesses to comply. Some can't even open because the opening of phase 4 was put on hold due to number of infections. People have had to stop seeing relative and can't live life like they used to. Its been very hard on people and then you have f*cking muppets like the Berlin do stuff like this. Yep people are going to be p*ssed


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  • #3042
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    I think it is naive to think that sort of behaviour only occurred with the reopening of places. House parties consisting of friends and friends of friends have been going since lockdown.

    The current situation of increased cases has occurred despite; masks being mandatory, pubs being closed, social distancing being required, schools being shut, large gatherings being banned etc. It's odd you look at a video of people partying and somehow conflate that to "I'm glad the pubs are closed" where the recent spikes have come from pubs being closed so it is clearly something else you should be focusing on. Unless you have some sort of grudge or irrational bias against pubs?

    The reason I look at that video and think it was the right decision to keep non food pubs closed is that I know full well that's the type of craic that'd be going on in a lot more establishments if there was a lot more of them open.

    The current situation of increased cases is occurring despite masks being mandatory, distancing being required, schools shut, large gatherings banned. If you did away with these measures then the current situation would be worse than it currently is.

    Recent spikes have occurred despite non food pubs being closed. That isn't to say if non-food pubs were open we wouldn't see associated cases and clusters. Obviously, if a place is closed and no one is in it, then you aren't going to have associated cases with it. That's basic logic.

    What else should I be focusing on? Am I concerned about travel into the country: yes. Am I concerned about outbreaks in meat factorys and direct provision centres: yes. Am I concerned about the risk posed by house parties: yes. Am I concerned that people are forgetting about social distancing generally: yes.

    Personally, I find it odd that you assume that my remarks mean that I have some "sort of grudge or irrational bias against pubs." What does that even mean? That I'm some sort of puritan who hates the thought of people having fun? Please. I love drinking, I love the pub. I miss being able to go to the pub for a feed of pints. But at the same time I can see the logic behind keeping them shut for now because they're perfect breeding grounds for further spread of the virus. That's the reason. Not because I hate pubs, which is, quite frankly, ridiculous. It's a very weak argument to reach for.


  • #3043
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    MM and FF have gone quiet, are they holidaying? Simon Harris seems to still be encouraging vigilance and care

    Last I heard he was Galway way (not really doing anything important)

    One thing you can say for SH (cue all the haters) everyday he had a message


  • #3044
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,475 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    MM and FF have gone quiet, are they holidaying? Simon Harris seems to still be encouraging vigilance and care
    MM was bumping elbows with Boris Johnson


  • #3045
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    MM and FF have gone quiet, are they holidaying? Simon Harris seems to still be encouraging vigilance and care

    Harris was surprisingly well suited to the role when this kicked off. Simple, consistent, straightforward messaging (aside from the 18 coronaviruses thing) and he was very visible. Terrible health minister overall though.

    Stephen Donnelly is a rabbit in the headlights, and MM is doing a good job of becoming an invisible Taoiseach.


  • #3046
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    People you need to be realistic.

    When you're 20 you live for the weekend. For meeting people, for music, drinking, dancing, flirting. Thats all you care about. Does no one remember?

    So you take that away for five months. And the longer it goes on the more it looks like it might go on and on and on. On the back of a virus that doesn't really concern you when you're 20.

    And sure grandma is tucked away at home and hasn't left the house for 3 months anyway.

    Of course buy-in is going to erode eventually. And of course it will start with the very young.

    I'm way way past that sort of party and model covid citizen myself but I can understand it. Cant really blame them even. This simply isn't sustainable in so many ways. This is just one of them.


  • #3047
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    I'm commenting on the reaction of the videos mainly, but I do feel that the carry on caught on the video is very tame when you look at the conditions of some food bars in Dublin.

    You can't be giving out about this carry on one night and then saying the virus is near dust the other.

    I was in a Dublin bar/restaurant last weekend and I had a tighter squeeze on my way to the bathroom than the people in this video.

    Don't sheep yourself down the social media hole.


  • #3048
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    gmisk wrote: »
    MM was bumping elbows with Boris Johnson

    I don't get it - he has been travelling more in the past month than LV did over the past 6 months

    Some optics there for a useless Taoiseach


  • #3049
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    gmisk wrote: »
    They were originally near the back of the powerscourt I think but they have been at that location for at least a few years.

    Let's see what happens to the them tomorrow, I'd say they will be made an example off and rightly so, it's not as if they don't have a lot previous


    They were taken over by a well know pub/nightclub consortium who have been well know for all sorts of shenanigans over the years.


  • #3050
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    God, that video from the Dublin pub. Coming in on the night we have 200 new cases, the highest since May. Also community transmissions is rising.

    If there's a person or more there and if there's a covid carrier and illness and covid19 spreads from that get together,

    How can people who's breaking social distancing guidelines be trusted to do their civil duty and do the right thing if they become ill?
    How can they be trusted to self isolate if they don't feel well?
    How can they be trusted to call their GP and organise testing?

    This is coming at a time where we are a few weeks away from the possibility of schools reopening and wet pubs reopening.

    Covid19 cases is going to take off from here on in. In other countries there's hefty fines for breaking guidelines and there's nothing here.


  • #3051
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    People you need to be realistic.

    When you're 20 you live for the weekend. For meeting people, for music, drinking, dancing, flirting. Thats all you care about. Does no one remember?

    ...

    What has young people got to do with irresponsible business owners flouting the law?


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  • #3052
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,475 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    I'm commenting on the reaction of the videos mainly, but I do feel that the carry on caught on the video is very tame when you look at the conditions of some food bars in Dublin.

    You can't be giving out about this carry on one night and then saying the virus is near dust the other.

    I was in a Dublin bar/restaurant last weekend and I had a tighter squeeze on my way to the bathroom than the people in this video.

    Don't sheep yourself down the social media hole.
    I have been in quite a few pubs in Dublin since they re opened and had the opposite experience, they have put in a tonne of effort with distancing, hand sanitizer etc.

    As has already been stated this particular place has been taking the piss for a while, crowded and opening late etc.


  • #3053
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,189 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    People you need to be realistic.

    When you're 20 you live for the weekend. For meeting people, for music, drinking, dancing, flirting. Thats all you care about. Does no one remember?

    So you take that away for five months. And the longer it goes on the more it looks like it might go on and on and on. On the back of a virus that doesn't really concern you when you're 20.

    And sure grandma is tucked away at home and hasn't left the house for 3 months anyway.

    Of course buy-in is going to erode eventually. And of course it will start with the very young.

    I'm way way past that sort of party and model covid citizen myself but I can understand it. Cant really blame them even. This simply isn't sustainable in so many ways. This is just one of them.

    I can understand that too. To a large extent you're fighting against human nature. But what do you do? Just say fck it and give up even trying to keep this thing under control?


  • #3054
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    I'm commenting on the reaction of the videos mainly, but I do feel that the carry on caught on the video is very tame when you look at the conditions of some food bars in Dublin.

    You can't be giving out about this carry on one night and then saying the virus is near dust the other.

    I was in a Dublin bar/restaurant last weekend and I had a tighter squeeze on my way to the bathroom than the people in this video.

    Don't sheep yourself down the social media hole.

    Exactly, I've seen restaurant/pubs with 60 people in a small enough space for far longer than the 1 hr 45 slot. There's only about 15 people in that video.


  • #3055
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    People you need to be realistic.

    When you're 20 you live for the weekend. For meeting people, for music, drinking, dancing, flirting. Thats all you care about. Does no one remember?

    So you take that away for five months. And the longer it goes on the more it looks like it might go on and on and on. On the back of a virus that doesn't really concern you when you're 20.

    And sure grandma is tucked away at home and hasn't left the house for 3 months anyway.

    Of course buy-in is going to erode eventually. And of course it will start with the very young.

    I'm way way past that sort of party and model covid citizen myself but I can understand it. Cant really blame them even. This simply isn't sustainable in so many ways. This is just one of them.

    There was someone who I presume was a bartender standing on the bar/counter. That alone is enough to turn my stomach - completely unhygienic. What sh1te did he drag his feet into before doing that?


  • #3056
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    People you need to be realistic.

    When you're 20 you live for the weekend. For meeting people, for music, drinking, dancing, flirting. Thats all you care about. Does no one remember?

    So you take that away for five months. And the longer it goes on the more it looks like it might go on and on and on. On the back of a virus that doesn't really concern you when you're 20.

    And sure grandma is tucked away at home and hasn't left the house for 3 months anyway.

    Of course buy-in is going to erode eventually. And of course it will start with the very young.

    I'm way way past that sort of party and model covid citizen myself but I can understand it. Cant really blame them even. This simply isn't sustainable in so many ways. This is just one of them.

    The world does not revolve around the 20 somethings and have different rules for them.


  • #3057
    GooglePlus
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    seanb85 wrote: »
    Exactly, I've seen restaurant/pubs with 60 people in a small enough space for far longer than the 1 hr 45 slot. There's only about 15 people in that video.

    There's no video to be outraged at.


  • #3058
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Queue that bar not getting another licence...or maybe

    The vintners will probably blame the punters.. but I’d be surprised if the machinations of justice would come down on the businesses who are promoting and enabling this risk.. if in this country there was any semblance of a fair society that’s what’s happening.


  • #3059
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Arghus wrote: »
    I can understand that too. To a large extent you're fighting against human nature. But what do you do? Just say fck it and give up even trying to keep this thing under control?

    I don't know Arghus. But I'm pretty sure that we won't be able to ride this into 2021 waiting for a vaccine without seeing massive rifts in society.


  • #3060
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    owlbethere wrote: »
    There was someone who I presume was a bartender standing on the bar/counter. That alone is enough to turn my stomach - completely unhygienic. What sh1te did he drag his feet into before doing that?

    Coyote Ugly style booze serving and dancing
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #3061
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,475 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Strumms wrote: »
    The vintners will probably blame the punters.. but I’d be surprised if the machinations of justice would come down on the businesses who are promoting and enabling this risk.. if in this country there was any semblance of a fair society that’s what’s happening.
    It's already been mentioned they aren't members of the LVA.


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