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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #2792
    [Deleted User]
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    road_high wrote: »
    Well the Inverse is true too then,,.and cases have risen since blessed masks came in too...I’ve not seen any peer reviewed studies showing the benefits of masks to stop Covid 19...but yea, they’re just amazing.
    They’re like some kind of rosary beads people clutch onto the vain hope they’re “stopping Covid 19”.

    Masks have been proven to be effective over 100 years ago


  • #2793
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    School will be some challenge. I don’t envision the classroom itself being too bad. Breaks, access and egress from classes and the school yes certainly.

    Outside the school too, on the way home needs to be factored in. Ok I’m not a parent but I’m saying to my kid... ok, I’m buying you a bike if they haven’t got one, and after school, say goodbyes and home... tough, uncomfortable but for a while it’s lined up like this.


  • #2794
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,820 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    jesso22 wrote: »
    Ban the sale of alcohol ��

    Imagine the vintners :D


  • #2795
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    Definitely not steroids.

    The Recovery trial showed that dexamethasone reduced deaths only for hospitalised patients on oxygen.

    It increased deaths slightly for hospitalised patients not on oxygen.

    If anyone is thinking of self-prescribing steroids for Covid - DON'T.

    You'd wonder if there is an existing drug that would reduce the likelihood of hospitalisation. Hopefully some trials will figure that out.


  • #2796
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Masks have been proven to be effective over 100 years ago

    Seen as we haven’t had Covid 19 for over 100 years I find that unlikely (it was Covid 19 and in certain circumstances I was originally referring to). But masks are scared and we mustn’t question their efficacy in every scatter gun scenario or usage


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  • #2797
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    road_high wrote: »
    Seen as we haven’t had Covid 19 for over 100 years I find that unlikely (it was Covid 19 and in certain circumstances I was originally referring to). But masks are scared and we mustn’t question their efficacy in every scatter gun scenario or usage
    How do you know that without masks the numbers would not be in their thousands by now ?


  • #2798
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to live with this and not panic lockdown

    Thag comes to personal responsibility which the government won't trust us with

    Did RG say lockdown likely if cases high?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #2799
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    The tourism minister that resigned there for going on holidays to Italy is a prime example of everything wrong with this country. The rich and powerful set the rules, delude the sheep to follow them, and then have a laugh doing whatever they want above the rules.

    We are absolute fools to allow this. Absolute fools. Protest, march and boycott everything until you root out all this rot.

    An absolute spit in the face of the voters in this country.


  • #2800
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    road_high wrote: »
    Seen as we haven’t had Covid 19 for over 100 years I find that unlikely (it was Covid 19 and in certain circumstances I was originally referring to). But masks are scared and we mustn’t question their efficacy in every scatter gun scenario or usage

    It's people that are scared of masks that are the problem.


  • #2801
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    HSE Daily Operations Update

    16 in hospital, increase of 2.
    4 confirmed cases today - 2 in Connolly, 1 in Kilkenny and 1 in UHL.
    8 in ICU and 5 ventilated, no change.
    Reminder there's very little discharges at the weekend.

    Hospitals:
    Cavan (--) - 2
    Connolly (--) - 2
    Kilkenny (+1) - 2
    Mater (--) - 2
    Naas (+1) - 2
    Tallaght (--) - 2
    UHL (--) - 2
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Mullingar (--) - 1


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  • #2802
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    The_Brood wrote: »
    The tourism minister that resigned there for going on holidays to Italy is a prime example of everything wrong with this country. The rich and powerful set the rules, delude the sheep to follow them, and then have a laugh doing whatever they want above the rules.

    We are absolute fools to allow this. Absolute fools. Protest, march and boycott everything until you root out all this rot.

    An absolute spit in the face of the voters in this country.

    He was the chairman of Failte Ireland. not a politician. research your rage.


  • #2803
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    twirlagig wrote: »
    Can I just ask something quickly...
    Don’t know if it belongs in work issues thread or here, but seeing as my issue is with Covid, I’ll post it here.
    For workers that are using a fingerprint clock in system for work, myself included...
    Our company uses this method and they’ve instructions printed clearly above, use wipes and sanitisers provided (and both these things are there for our use)... but I’ve seen only about 60-ish% complying with this - some are using it as normal before this virus started (and are of the belief, ‘we can’t give it to ourselves sure’ )

    I’m really not comfortable continuing to use this, especially with the cases numbers rising again now.

    Lets say there was a virus on it, its not going to infect you through the skin of your fingertip. Just use a sani wipe after or wash your hands. No biggie really.


  • #2804
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    HSE Daily Operations Update

    16 in hospital, increase of 2.
    4 confirmed cases today - 2 in Connolly, 1 in Kilkenny and 1 in UHL.
    8 in ICU and 5 ventilated, no change.

    Hospitals:
    Cavan (--) - 2
    Connolly (--) - 2
    Kilkenny (+1) - 2
    Mater (--) - 2
    Naas (+1) - 2
    Tallaght (--) - 2
    UHL (--) - 2
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Mullingar (--) - 1

    16 isn’t bad and especially when like you’ve said before hardly and discharges at weekends.
    I’ve been on holidays since yesterday in Sligo and I can say it’s been refreshing. Here now in the hotel bar, a man with his guitar playing good tunes and only residence aloud. All tables 2 metres apart staff wearing masks/visors. You can get table service or order in a queue for your drink.
    Only gripe is they don’t seem to want to set up a tab or charge to the room which I find strange. My only thinking behind it that it might stop people getting langers

    Edit: I’m not spell checking. I’m after too many rockshores :-)


  • #2805
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    He was the chairman of Failte Ireland. not a politician. research your rage.

    Same upper class ilk.


  • #2806
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Lets say there was a virus on it, its not going to infect you through the skin of your fingertip. Just use a sani wipe after or wash your hands. No biggie really.

    They'd be sound to take it out of the equation and trust their workers but cleaning hands properly after will remove any infection risk.


  • #2807
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    I read in another thread here that we had 25 cases of community transmissions from todays cases. That is very worrying indeed. It was in the news yesterday that we had 6 cases of community transmissions approximately a week ago, we had 12 the other day, 16 yesterday and now today we have 25 community transmission cases. That's is a worrying increase.


  • #2808
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    road_high wrote: »
    Again nothing to do with Cork or masks. More that it’s a relatively isolated geographical position in the country and hasn’t had clusters like Kildare. Nothing to do with your imagined efforts or virtues. Pure chance really.

    Yes, not doing as well as Kerry or Waterford. Got really lucky with that Fermoy outbreak a while back too.

    I'm from Cork btw.


  • #2809
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I read in another thread here that we had 25 cases of community transmissions from todays cases. That is very worrying indeed. It was in the news yesterday that we had 6 cases of community transmissions approximately a week ago, we had 12 the other day, 16 yesterday and now today we have 25 community transmission cases. That's is a worrying increase.

    That 25 out of 200 is still only 12.5% community transmission. Well below what the average actually is


  • #2810
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    So 200 odd cases today, are we still doing well or what?

    I remember a certain positive spinner on this thread telling me I was mad predicting 100+ cases countrywide only less than a month ago.

    That busy regurgitating someone else's statistical work that they've forgotten how this virus works and through their own positive blindness, they've misinformed numbers of others on this thread.

    We'll be at 400-500 very soon and they'll still be preaching the same ****e.


  • #2811
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I read in another thread here that we had 25 cases of community transmissions from todays cases. That is very worrying indeed. It was in the news yesterday that we had 6 cases of community transmissions approximately a week ago, we had 12 the other day, 16 yesterday and now today we have 25 community transmission cases. That's is a worrying increase.

    i wish they would tell us where the community transmissions are. Surely, it would only help with the relevant counties being extra vigilant.


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  • #2812
    Beanybabog
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    How do they know those cases are community transmission of a huge chunk of cases aren’t classified yet? Surely the community transmission could be close contact cases when they finish assessing the rest?


  • #2813
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    That 25 out of 200 is still only 12.5% community transmission. Well below what the average actually is

    The number of cases still under investigation is jumping sharply too though. That happened in March and many were later reclassified as community transmission.


  • #2814
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Second lockdown likely IMO. :(

    There won't be another national lockdown, we wouldn't be able to afford it. Its every man/woman for themselves now unfortunately.

    And people will have to get back to school and work and protect themselves as best they can. Masks, distancing, ventilation, hand washing etc.


  • #2815
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    jesso22 wrote: »
    Ban the sale of alcohol 👹

    I believe America tried that years ago and failed miserably. Somehow I don't think we would be successful when a country with vast resources couldn't.


  • #2816
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Happy4all wrote: »
    i wish they would tell us where the community transmissions are. Surely, it would only help with the relevant counties being extra vigilant.

    This would go a long way into helping us get through this for sure. Like if the community transmissions is occurring near the clusters or if they are cropping up elsewhere around the country.


  • #2817
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There won't be another national lockdown, we wouldn't be able to afford it. Its every man/woman for themselves now unfortunately.

    And people will have to get back to school and work and protect themselves as best they can. Masks, distancing, ventilation, hand washing etc.

    I'd agree there won't be the same kind of lockdown but they really need to get a proper plan in place for schools. A huge amount of it is do this "if possible". That's just inept, lazy and negligent.

    The virus is being handed a massive opportunity for increased spread in a few weeks and the proposed mitigation measures are pathetic.


  • #2818
    jesso22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭jesso22


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I believe America tried that years ago and failed miserably. Somehow I don't think we would be successful when a country with vast resources couldn't.

    Probably not ha ha


  • #2819
    mr_edge_to_you
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    Was out for dinner tonight, first time since February - rural pub/restaurant. It was busy but well spaced out, everything as it should be. The Gardai arrived in for a visit at 9pm.

    I can’t figure out how the same level of enforcement isn’t evident in other places where the rules are being pushed to the limit.


  • #2820
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭Longing


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to live with this and not panic lockdown

    Thag comes to personal responsibility which the government won't trust us with


    Personal responsibility is out the window. Today I had to travel through 4 counties two of which were in the North and two in the south. I stopped in one county north and south in a supermarket. In Co Down everybody was wearing a mask but more to the point the were always trying to abide by the two meter rule.



    Called into a supermarket in Co Monaghan. My God! Night and day difference I fcuk you not. My wife is easy going women. But in this supermarket we were the only one's wearing a mask the two meter rule was like 2 inch's. It was like the twilight zone a different dimension like they virus didn't exist. After 5 mins my wife was so angry she walked out.


    Unless they people in power in this country start putting money were there mouth is concerning social adherence well we are up sh*te creek.


    Community transmissions numbers today should ring alarm bells load and clear in government buildings. Don't take me up wrong not saying we should lockdown the country, But there needs to be a firm action taking for places like I was today.


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  • #2821
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So 200 odd cases today, are we still doing well or what?

    I remember a certain positive spinner on this thread telling me I was mad predicting 100+ cases countrywide only less than a month ago.

    That busy regurgitating someone else's statistical work that they've forgotten how this virus works and through their own positive blindness, they've misinformed numbers of others on this thread.

    We'll be at 400-500 very soon and they'll still be preaching the same ****e.
    You can refer to me by my name and not spinner, cheers.


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