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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,347 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    We need to live with this and not panic lockdown

    Thag comes to personal responsibility which the government won't trust us with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Reminder the electoral map has been updated, check your towns for new cases

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    No new cases in my area and its neighbouring towns compared to the last version of the map

    Dublin very in the red but it has / had most cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Good read, important to remember why restrictions are in place. Theories about T cells and cross immunity have no evidence as of yet and are highly unlikely to be in anyway true. The alternative of letting this virus transmit freely will not end well.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-11/san-quentin-coronavirus-herd-immunity-covid-19

    The restrictions are also theoretical, and there is no likelihood of their being true as such. Caution, public spiritedness, "I trust the experts", political leaders have no reason to do it otherwise etc., etc. are not pieces of scientific evidence in favour of these theories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    New study regarding the transmission from children to other members of household.
    It finds that the likelihood of transmission from a child to another household member is 1 in 200, or 0.5%.
    https://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2020/08/06/archdischild-2020-319910

    107 infected children tested..

    Hardly anything to be drawing conclusions from when you've a number of other factors that come into play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to live with this and not panic lockdown

    Thag comes to personal responsibility which the government won't trust us with
    Can you blame them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    spookwoman wrote: »
    150 if you remove the 9. Don't know when the deaths for the denotifications happened

    Much less than that. Dr Glynn said last week that almost all of the recently announced deaths are historic ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭twirlagig


    Can I just ask something quickly...
    Don’t know if it belongs in work issues thread or here, but seeing as my issue is with Covid, I’ll post it here.
    For workers that are using a fingerprint clock in system for work, myself included...
    Our company uses this method and they’ve instructions printed clearly above, use wipes and sanitisers provided (and both these things are there for our use)... but I’ve seen only about 60-ish% complying with this - some are using it as normal before this virus started (and are of the belief, ‘we can’t give it to ourselves sure’ )

    I’m really not comfortable continuing to use this, especially with the cases numbers rising again now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Much less than that. Dr Glynn said last week that almost all of the recently announced deaths are historic ones.

    Whats classed as historic, 2 weeks, a month, 2 months?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    New study regarding the transmission from children to other members of household.
    It finds that the likelihood of transmission from a child to another household member is 1 in 200, or 0.5%.
    https://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2020/08/06/archdischild-2020-319910
    In the context of isolating and quarantine, as opposed to everyone in a class catching it and bringing it home to unsuspecting households.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Lisa2011


    There should have been a hard lockdown from the beginning.
    All alcohol fuelled house parties should have been stopped and fines issued to those holdings illegal gatherings. We can eliminate this virus if all and not just a few take it seriously. We need children back to school and people to stop walking around like Covid doesn’t exist. I know of people who are young in their 40s and have no health issues and because of Covid they have breathing and heart problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Lisa2011 wrote: »
    There should have been a hard lockdown from the beginning.
    All alcohol fuelled house parties should have been stopped and fines issued to those holdings illegal gatherings. We can eliminate this virus if all and not just a few take it seriously. We need children back to school and people to stop walking around like Covid doesn’t exist. I know of people who are young in their 40s and have no health issues and because of Covid they have breathing and heart problems.

    Do you mind me asking how do you stop house parties?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    New study regarding the transmission from children to other members of household.
    It finds that the likelihood of transmission from a child to another household member is 1 in 200, or 0.5%.
    https://adc.bmj.com/content/early/2020/08/06/archdischild-2020-319910

    It says the likelihood of transmission from children to adults is 1 in 200. Why is this, I wonder?

    I wonder would it have anything to do with children and their height? They are not towering above adults in their height and size therefore if they are expelling virus through cough or sneeze, droplets are falling quicker to the floor and they are not kind of face to face with adults, for the most part. Smaller children and children with needs would require close contact with adults and help from adults. Maybe they might spread more due to close contact for their care.

    John Campbell, YouTube, he had a piece the other day and he said preschoolers have a higher viral load.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    Just checked cases in my area and it says glencullen has a population of 19 thousand and cases 122 which is very high compared to other areas I know 1 person on glencullen that had it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    twirlagig wrote: »
    Can I just ask something quickly...
    Don’t know if it belongs in work issues thread or here, but seeing as my issue is with Covid, I’ll post it here.
    For workers that are using a fingerprint clock in system for work, myself included...
    Our company uses this method and they’ve instructions printed clearly above, use wipes and sanitisers provided (and both these things are there for our use)... but I’ve seen only about 60-ish% complying with this - some are using it as normal before this virus started (and are of the belief, ‘we can’t give it to ourselves sure’ )

    I’m really not comfortable continuing to use this, especially with the cases numbers rising again now.

    Wipe it before you use it and it's fine. Wipe it after you use it and others will be protected from you. It's not rocket science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Cases are coming from workers in close proximity to each other (who should wear masks if that's the case) and in certain accomodation types.
    It spreads very fast in those environments, but then it gets into the community. We know of cases in sports clubs, house parties etc.

    I don't like masks. It doesn't kill me to wear one. I wish people would stop moaning about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Whats classed as historic, 2 weeks, a month, 2 months?

    A mixture of all of that, people have up to 3 months to notify a death.
    Very few if any are happening in hospitals or nursing homes so they are not registered the next day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    catrat12 wrote: »
    Just checked cases in my area and it says glencullen has a population of 19 thousand and cases 122 which is very high compared to other areas I know 1 person on glencullen that had it
    If you're talking about the Glencullen electoral district that includes a lot more populated areas back towards Sandyford direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ficheall wrote: »
    In the context of isolating and quarantine, as opposed to everyone in a class catching it and bringing it home to unsuspecting households.
    = kids should be tested if they're ill and isolate, just like everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭ax530


    Is part of the problem due to Leo letting things open earlier than planned then the big drive on encouraging people to go on holiday in Ireland.
    It's very hard too learn how to live with virus. I've a child who is really looking forward to school went to get uniform today kept trip to shops to a minimum now see numbers this evening I'm all stressed about how big a risk I took to go shops.
    Guess if a kid sneezes or coughs teacher will send them home for test... Feeling the children will be terrified with this seeing who is taken out each day, worried about clearing throat ect sure lots of other 'living with the virus stresses'
    Wonder would some randomised testing be any use? Contact X random app users every day for a test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,347 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Can you blame them?

    I knw there looking out for our best interests but they need to think of the economy and mental health


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Wipe it before you use it and it's fine. Wipe it after yo use it and others will be protected from you. It's not rocket science.

    Even if you didn't wipe it before you use it, once you wash your hands afterwards before touching your face you should be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    = kids should be tested if they're ill and isolate, just like everyone else.
    One hundred percent.

    Though I can understand both sides on the sniffles mentioned yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ficheall wrote: »
    One hundred percent.

    Though I can understand both sides on the sniffles mentioned yesterday.
    I did too but there's a way bigger picture here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    spookwoman wrote: »
    150 if you remove the 9. Don't know when the deaths for the denotifications happened


    Is it that many? That's an average of 2 deaths per day, didn't think it was as high as that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    hmmm wrote: »
    If you're talking about the Glencullen electoral district that includes a lot more populated areas back towards Sandyford direction.

    Oh I see thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ax530 wrote: »
    Is part of the problem due to Leo letting things open earlier than planned then the big drive on encouraging people to go on holiday in Ireland.
    It's very hard too learn how to live with virus. I've a child who is really looking forward to school went to get uniform today kept trip to shops to a minimum now see numbers this evening I'm all stressed about how big a risk I took to go shops.
    Guess if a kid sneezes or coughs teacher will send them home for test... Feeling the children will be terrified with this seeing who is taken out each day, worried about clearing throat ect sure lots of other 'living with the virus stresses'
    Wonder would some randomised testing be any use? Contact X random app users every day for a test.

    Sneezing isn't even a symptom of covid.

    Freaking out about someone clearing their throat would be an overreaction for sure.

    Are people that incapable of holding their nerve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    seanb85 wrote: »
    Does anybody know what doctors are prescribing (if anything) to those not in hospital? Corticosteroids or something?

    Definitely not steroids.

    The Recovery trial showed that dexamethasone reduced deaths only for hospitalised patients on oxygen.

    It increased deaths slightly for hospitalised patients not on oxygen.

    If anyone is thinking of self-prescribing steroids for Covid - DON'T.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭jesso22


    Do you mind me asking how do you stop house parties?

    Ban the sale of alcohol 👹


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    = kids should be tested if they're ill and isolate, just like everyone else.

    Unfortunately, kids can't articulate their feelings like us and although alarm bell symptoms like a high temperature will give us a warning, a child won't tell you when their sense of smell has changed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    jesso22 wrote: »
    Ban the sale of alcohol 👹

    Please give me enough advance notice to start work on distilling consignments of bathtub gin. Thanks.


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