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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #2342
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Wow plus there's 70 from yesterday. Looks like we've lost control of this!

    They could be positive tests on people who have already been tested positive.

    It is hard to judge from the number alone.


  • #2343
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    They could be positive tests on people who have already been tested positive.

    It is hard to judge from the number alone.
    Impossible. We could have 300 cases tonight or 20. Really don't know anymore!


  • #2344
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Wow plus there's 70 from yesterday. Looks like we've lost control of this!

    I love your posts. I find them wonderfully alarmist


  • #2345
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,299 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Impossible. We could have 300 cases tonight or 20. Really don't know anymore!


    300 we would be as bad as Spain, 1000 we would be as bad as Brazil, 110 we would be as bad as steady as she goes do nothing and chill out with an active economy Sweden.


  • #2346
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    And we're still in phase 3, we were suppose to be lowering the number. Really is sickening, 6 months hardwork, I know we're not supposed to play the blame game but people are ducking up and it's easy to see how. 'Oh that won't effect me', 'My human rights I'm not wearing a mask'. I'm fuming at these numbers.


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  • #2347
    yosemitesam1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    1641 wrote: »
    What countries have done well with this, do you reckon? What have they found?

    No country has carried out a proper system of testing to show how the virus is actually behaving at a population level AFAIK
    The numbers have never been a representation of what's really going on in the population from the start.


  • #2348
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Wow plus there's 70 from yesterday. Looks like we've lost control of this!

    You need to fix your formula, Morty!


  • #2349
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    And we're still in phase 3, we were suppose to be lowering the number. Really is sickening, 6 months hardwork, I know we're not supposed to play the blame game but people are ducking up and it's easy to see how. 'Oh that won't effect me', 'My human rights I'm not wearing a mask'. I'm fuming at these numbers.

    Who said numbers are supposed to be lowering ?

    The CMO flagged multiple times and still is that cases would rise as the country reopened. He's still flagging that there will be clusters linked to schools.

    Whats happened / happening in the meat plants has unfortunately caused large case numbers.

    Not seeing anyone outside of here complaining about masks, very high compliance in my experience


  • #2350
    blowitupref
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Impossible. We could have 300 cases tonight or 20. Really don't know anymore!

    Hopefully it's not near the 174 cases like last Saturday.


  • #2351
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Hopefully it's not near the 174 cases like last Saturday.
    With the news of the factory in Tipp and the rumours about one or two more in Kildare it wouldn't be entirely surprising


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  • #2352
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    65 cases of Covid-19 in Northern Ireland over the past 24 hours
    65 individuals have tested positive for Covid-19 in Northern Ireland over the past 24 hours.

    Today's figures bring the total number of cases in the region to 6,364.

    No deaths have been reported meaning the death toll remains at 558.

    Yesterday, Health Minister for Northern Ireland Robin Swann said the number of close contacts linked to positive cases "has more than doubled since July".

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0815/1159333-coronavirus-ireland/

    Shin


  • #2353
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    Clinical specialists dealing with a field problem.
    The vast majority are out of their depth and there isn't any voices inside the likes of nphet who do have the sort of relevant background needed to understand what is going on.

    Its the first thing you do with any problem. You get all the defining parameters together. Now in this case I grant there was a justified panic phase. But then its still the second thing you do.

    5 months down the road and we still have no idea what the actual exposure to this virus is. Its shocking.


  • #2354
    caveat emptor
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    Head, shoulders, knees and covidtoes covidtoes.

    https://twitter.com/drzoehyde/status/1294554279785558017?s=21


  • #2355
    Oranage2
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Who said numbers are supposed to be lowering ?

    The CMO flagged multiple times and still is that cases would rise as the country reopened. He's still flagging that there will be clusters linked to schools.

    Whats happened / happening in the meat plants has unfortunately caused large case numbers.

    Not seeing anyone outside of here complaining about masks, very high compliance in my experience

    Maybe it's grand in your 35k little town but the numbers don't lie, people are getting complacent. And I'm sure they're expecting a slight rise not the 10x we're currently experiencing. I'd suggest getting in the family activities now because it's going to be a long winter


  • #2356
    polesheep
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    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    What I don't understand about the postulated T-cell cross immunity to Covid from other human coronaviruses, like the common cold...

    How come Covid-19 is killing those who have had numerous common colds over many many years, while sparing the young who have had very few common colds ?

    ???

    Your immune system grows weaker as you age.


  • #2357
    polesheep
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    And we're still in phase 3, we were suppose to be lowering the number. Really is sickening, 6 months hardwork, I know we're not supposed to play the blame game but people are ducking up and it's easy to see how. 'Oh that won't effect me', 'My human rights I'm not wearing a mask'. I'm fuming at these numbers.

    Any comment on the hospital numbers?


  • #2358
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    ShyMets wrote: »
    I love your posts. I find them wonderfully alarmist

    I think Oranage and Mr Green meet for socially distanced tiffin in the afternoon.


  • #2359
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Maybe it's grand in your 35k little town but the numbers don't lie, people are getting complacent. And I'm sure they're expecting a slight rise not the 10x we're currently experiencing. I'd suggest getting in the family activities now because it's going to be a long winter
    I live just outside Cork City and mask compliance is well over 90%. The lack of cases in Cork for the past 2 weeks signifies this is true.


  • #2360
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Maybe it's grand in your 35k little town but the numbers don't lie, people are getting complacent. And I'm sure they're expecting a slight rise not the 10x we're currently experiencing. I'd suggest getting in the family activities now because it's going to be a long winter


    Well seeing as where I live is just outside Dublin and I'm in Dublin City daily for work I've not seen anyone taking the p1ss in terms of mask wearing since its become mandatory.

    Well that's the general idea in summer to do the activities you want before winter rolls in.


  • #2361
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well seeing as where I live is just outside Dublin and I'm in Dublin City daily for work I've not seen anyone taking the p1ss in terms of mask wearing since its become mandatory.

    Well that's the general idea in summer to do the activities you want before winter rolls in.

    I live in south Dublin and I see very good compliance here too . Was in Dunnes today and saw not one person over 10 years old without one .


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  • #2362
    Gruffalux
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    Since March I have been wearing a mask in shops and when I have to pop into work as it is a reasonable precaution. Still I must say there is something poignant even tragic about seeing everyone in masks now. All the older or lonelier people who rarely get to see a smile now or have a passing chat. Just makes me really dislike being in indoor public spaces now.


  • #2363
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I live in south Dublin and I see very good compliance here too . Was in Dunnes today and saw not one person over 10 years old without one .

    Last few weeks it realty has improved. Transport uptake was a little slow but extremely high on services I've been on recently.

    Likewise in shops as soon as the word mandatory was mentioned compliance was extremely high.

    Have seen a good few parents with kids and the kids have them on in the shops


  • #2364
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Last few weeks it realty has improved. Transport uptake was a little slow but extremely high on services I've been on recently.

    Likewise in shops as soon as the word mandatory was mentioned compliance was extremely high.

    Have seen a good few parents with kids and the kids have them on in the shops
    The high compliance lately would make ya wonder where people are actually picking this up. I doubt there's many picking it up in shops and on transport.


  • #2365
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The high compliance lately would make ya wonder where people are actually picking this up. I doubt there's many picking it up in shops and on transport.

    I did actually wonder that.

    Would be nice to know if they had any information to release on the covid app. Has it tracked close contacts on transport for example


  • #2366
    feelings
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    Expecting a big jump in numbers this evening.


  • #2367
    1641
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    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Which leads me to the part of this struggle against COVID that really annoys me the most.

    For all the brightest heads within our society and all the resources we throw at this it's still very amateurish in a number of key aspects. Let it be the evidence on spread and infection and prevention, let it be the single most important piece of this problem. There are not serious enough attempts to get all the core information on the problem together. Amateurish. Unscientific.

    Which is not me claiming that this virus has gone through our population already and we're all just panicking over nothing. But its me claiming the possibility of that is still there and we just don't fkn know. 5 months into this. Its unbelievable really.
    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    Clinical specialists dealing with a field problem.
    The vast majority are out of their depth and there isn't any voices inside the likes of nphet who do have the sort of relevant background needed to understand what is going on.
    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    No country has carried out a proper system of testing to show how the virus is actually behaving at a population level AFAIK
    The numbers have never been a representation of what's really going on in the population from the start.


    So not just Ireland and not just NEPHET? Amateurish, unscientific, unqualified, people everywhere then?


    Sounds like, if we are ever to find out what is really going on, you guys will have to proffer your services?:D


  • #2368
    ElTel
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    I know this is only a snippet of the overall numbers but how can they be struggling to get a reasonable asymptomatic number ? How do they vary so much from country to country depending on who is working it out?

    I know without testing everybody daily you can’t know for sure, but I’ve been seeing suggestions that asymptomatic cases are as low as 5% to now as high as 97%. There are of course mitigating factors but can they explain such a difference in asymptomatic projections?

    Is it mutation? Is it that we have simply underestimated the amount infected and thus over estimated how dangerous it is (in terms of mortality)? Maybe lower viral loads from mask wearing but infection spreading more? (People more lax in masks?)

    What’s the thoughts?

    It's intriguing all right.
    It appears we already have some resistance but perhaps the big factor is the initial infection dose. There is a threshold dose that triggers a stronger immune response and thus leads to symptoms?

    The PCR test may be picking up people who have recovered?


  • #2369
    Away With The Fairies
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    Just been on the HSE website and if you have symptoms you can get a test or if you're a close contact of a confirmed case you can also get a test.

    Had someone in work take a few days off with no symptoms and went for a test. This is kind of telling me that they must have been a close contact of a confirmed case. Their test came back negative and they went into work.

    If you're a close contact, shouldn't you also be self isolating even if you get a negative test?


  • #2370
    Le Bruise
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    feelings wrote: »
    Expecting a big jump in numbers this evening.

    Based on feelings?


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  • #2371
    ACitizenErased
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Just been on the HSE website and if you have symptoms you can get a test or if you're a close contact of a confirmed case you can also get a test.

    Had someone in work take a few days off with no symptoms and went for a test. This is kind of telling me that they must have been a close contact of a confirmed case. Their test came back negative and they went into work.

    If you're a close contact, shouldn't you also be self isolating even if you get a negative test?
    Depends on if the HSE want you to get a day 7 test or not. If you were in contact with a person greater than the average serial interval then I would assume they'd tell you to go back to work.


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