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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #2192
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Retro Hair Carrigaline has a confirmed case in its staff https://www.facebook.com/retrohair.carrigaline/posts/1549627705237993?__cft__[0]=AZWmvubTlChUXRNdFuHzQjTxJhd9Z7JEegarVMvwEh8kPQOyFHVhkLBfwYmnsZoKo8RuZ88EujlEYea11HBq1UxAIvnTSfjNURIZfoYpYOyiGNtm9-Jzt7WpL_DDsaoyXyO5FZDVuX1YFO9LTleiNpZOLqLXgpmj3yT6oT8xR0VtVA&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R


  • #2193
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    You think I'm making up deaths? I obviously got it from journalists who posted it all over twitter
    just cite and link to the source and then we'll know the source


  • #2194
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    expectationlost wrote: »
    just cite and link to the source and then we'll know the source
    Will I lose marks for not citing my source?


  • #2195
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    If ACE disappears from this thread, it is pretty much over! He keeps this place going, surprised no outlet has tried to sign him or her up yet tbh.


    He knows more than most journos out there at the moment.


  • #2196
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    BringBackMick wrote: »

    He knows more than most journos out there at the moment.
    thats a very low bar


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  • #2197
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Hearing of a case of staff working at Dublin airport. It was probably only a matter of time


  • #2198
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    :D:D I was trying to be kind to our current journos who have taken to twitter recently to defend themselves...

    in reality....as much as i respect their effort....they are fairly awful... bar fergal bowers who is good... the rest are quite terrible....but this is not a personal attack etc...

    So ACE and Fergal Bowers are my two sources at the moment.
    expectationlost wrote: »
    thats a very low bar


  • #2199
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Will I lose marks for not citing my source?

    TBH in my book, anyone who posts without a source is less credible.

    You might gain some time (if that's important to you) by just reposting the tweets/links.


  • #2200
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    TBH in my book, anyone who posts without a source is less credible.

    You might gain some time (if that's important to you) by just reposting the tweets/links.

    And also when that person demands links to sources of info the others post. Has to work both ways.


  • #2201
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If ACE disappears from this thread...

    There have been daily threats of this nature but none has come to fruition :confused:


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  • #2202
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If ACE disappears from this thread...

    There have been daily threats of this nature but none has come to fruition :confused:

    It is getting weird in here now.... i actually dont even understand the issue with ACE

    To me any personal opinion of his has seemed conservative, so to see him being attacked by ppl who paint him as a COVID denier etc, is bizarre!

    I originally would have argued against him as being too negative and conservative....

    I guess this thread is illustrative of how much COVID has fcked ppl up


  • #2203
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Hearing of a case of staff working at Dublin airport. It was probably only a matter of time

    Must be one of the safest places to work these days...generally massive buildings with no one in them.


  • #2204
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Crooked RTE News headline today People urged to social distance as Covid-19 cases rise

    The new cases today were 67, yesterday the new cases were 92 which in any book is a reduction, what kind of a fooking grade 1 specialist in failure writes the RTE headlines?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0814/1159095-covid-figures/


  • #2205
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    DevilsHaircut wrote: »

    It is getting weird in here now.... /QUOTE]

    I was simply commenting on the regular 'I'm out of here posts' that last about an hour.


  • #2206
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    expectationlost wrote: »
    just cite and link to the source and then we'll know the source
    Jesus, get over yourself.
    I certainly don't subscribe to some posters' belief that ACE has any more insight than anyone else, but his copy and pasting the info saves a lot of people the effort of looking stuff up themselves. You don't need to take what data he posts as gospel, or trust his analysis any more than you would that of any of the other posters, but if there's a particular issue with some data source, he's always been pretty good about providing links. He is, in any case, under no obligation to anyone to follow a particular format for his posts. Eesh.


  • #2207
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beasty wrote: »
    Yes stick to the topic, but also leave the modding to the mods

    Thanking you both in anticipation.....
    ginoginelli wrote: »
    Get down of your white steed will ya.

    The guy is literally just copying and pasting stuff from another site.

    He seems to have been elevated to demi God status on here by his 'merry band' of followers.

    Mad carry on altogether.
    DebDynamite wrote: »
    I can’t understand why people are saying he’s just copying and pasting stuff. He’s not a medical or investigative journalist. What do you expect him to post? What else can he post besides stats, facts and figures? I’m very grateful for all he contributes, as it means I don’t have to be looking at various sites to get the same news I get here. He’s also very obliging if anyone asks him for a breakdown of something, the previous week’s figures, etc

    This witch-hunt is tiresome.
    lukas8888 wrote: »
    I knew we would not have to wait long for you to stick your oar in, with your usual vulgar language once the church was mentioned.
    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You still annoying people I see. ;-)
    expectationlost wrote: »
    acitizenerased should cite and link to his sources
    expectationlost wrote: »
    he should cite and link to his sources everytime he posts them, each posts needs to stand on its own.
    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    If lack of haranguing was the benchmark for posting here, the thread would have been empty since around May, when the demographics changed.
    Still waters wrote: »
    You're skepticism hurts me to my very core
    road_high wrote: »
    OK. You do know Leo isn't Taoiseach anymore!?
    Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »
    Oh ffs :rolleyes:
    nj27 wrote: »
    Your brain aids breaks my dick off at its core bitch tits
    expectationlost wrote: »
    here's an example of not citing or linking to your sources https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114247521&postcount=8205 I did not know where you got your data from.
    Still waters wrote: »
    Descriptive
    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    BringBackMick wrote: »
    If ACE disappears from this thread...

    There have been daily threats of this nature but none has come to fruition :confused:

    If you guys continue with this off-topic crap you will be threadbanned


  • #2208
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Crooked RTE News headline today People urged to social distance as Covid-19 cases rise

    The new cases today were 67, yesterday the new cases were 92 which in any book is a reduction, what kind of a fooking grade 1 specialist in failure writes the RTE headlines?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0814/1159095-covid-figures/

    I noted the same.... fairly sure any average over last 7 days etc would illustrate a fall in cases....


  • #2209
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    HSE Daily Operations Update
    14 in hospital, increase of 1.
    4 confirmed cases today - 1 in Cavan, 1 in Connolly, 1 in Naas and 1 in Tallaght.
    8 in ICU, increase of 2.
    5 ventilated, increase of 1.

    Hospitals:
    Kilkenny (-3) - 1
    Mater (--) - 2
    UHL (--) - 2
    Cavan (+1) - 2
    Connolly (+1) - 2
    Mullingar (--) - 1
    Naas (+1) - 1
    Tallaght (+1) - 2
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Tullamore (-1) - 0

    ICU:
    Mater (--) - 2
    Tallaght (--) - 1
    Sligo (--) - 1
    Kilkenny (--) - 1
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Connolly (+1) - 1
    Mullingar (+1) - 1


  • #2210
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Still waters wrote: »
    Lockdown from monday on for the whole country, got a text from my aunt who's a very senior civil servant working in kildare street, be interesting to see if theres any truth in it come monday or if she's taking the piss out of me

    Bullshít. Funny though, reading that has brought me back to a very different time; a time where we were all so unsure of what was going to happen, a time of fear. Seems so long ago now. Thanks you for reminding me of how far i’ve come myself in this Covid emotional rollercoaster.


  • #2211
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Your post is well structured and diplomatic but it loses any credibility when you mention 'suspected cases'

    Unfortunately, I can't make a determination of the language that the relevant professionals are using in their daily report. it's their phrase that I was using, as that's what they reported.
    Every single person in hospital is tested for COVID, until their result comes back clear they are a 'suspected case'

    That may well be the case, the reason I posted was to try, and it would appear fail, to debunk the poster who was trying to downplay the numbers actually in hospital at present, by reminding people that the numbers are significantly higher than just the few who are actually definitely positive. I would venture to suggest that the problem is that there are a significant number of tests that are reported on a daily basis as being indeterminate.

    The fact that someone tests negative is one thing, do the hospital test them every day to see if their status has changed, there are a lot of things that we are not seeing in the reports from the media, and the media seems to be doing everything they can to make the Covid scenario look as bad as they can, or worse, probably because they all are desperate for circulation or clicks, to generate as much revenue through advertising as possible.
    If you have followed these threads and numbers in recent months you will see the number of confirmed hospital cases has remained steady, the number of 'suspected' has decreased.....the use of the world suspected it questionable at best..

    This is a dangerous disease, but let us not lose sight of reality....there are much bigger concerns for our society than COVID19..... cancer, mental health... the crazy figure on waiting lists...

    We need a shake up and fast....we cannot keep living in this COVID19 daze for much longer or we will lose sight of much bigger problems and their solutions.

    On that, we can agree, the reality is that I cannot cope with reading every post in every Covid thread without putting my own mental stability at risk, particulary when I look at some of the more absurd posts that are regularly repeated by the denyers and the people desperate to get to the pub regardless of the consequences, and it's not just on the medical side of things that we're in trouble, if I look at it coldly, the entire structure of many democracies is in danger of being toppled, and massive debts will only be one of the prongs on which it finds itself impaled, I can't remember a time in the last while where there are so many different dissentions being expressed, and the biggest worry I have is that the inability of the political system to be meaningful and to show any real statemanship is becoming increasingly concerning. Even more worrying is that there is no viable alternative that I can see, but that's probably not a subject for this thread.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • #2212
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Crooked RTE News headline today People urged to social distance as Covid-19 cases rise

    The new cases today were 67, yesterday the new cases were 92 which in any book is a reduction, what kind of a fooking grade 1 specialist in failure writes the RTE headlines?

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0814/1159095-covid-figures/

    Reporting what the man said is not crocked.
    Dr Glynn said
    We have seen #covid19 case numbers rising across the country this week. We must do all we can to avoid a return to where we were in March & April. Social distancing applies to all age groups - wherever you are this weekend please keep your distance. #holdfirm


  • #2213
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    expectationlost wrote: »
    here's an example of not citing or linking to your sources https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114247521&postcount=8205 I did not know where you got your data from.

    What are you on about? Ronan Glynn gave that information at the time at the press conference. It wasn’t new information some journalist posted and ACE passed off as his own


  • #2214
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    What are you on about? Ronan Glynn gave that information at the time at the press conference. It wasn’t new information some journalist posted and ACE passed off as his own
    Do not post in this thread again

    And do not claim you were not warned


  • #2215
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Still waters wrote: »
    Lockdown from monday on for the whole country, got a text from my aunt who's a very senior civil servant working in kildare street, be interesting to see if theres any truth in it come monday or if she's taking the piss out of me

    Thanks for that. I will stock up on toilet rolls in the morning.


  • #2216
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Reporting what the man said is not crocked.
    Dr Glynn said

    They're still going on about social distancing. You can be well away from someone and never having to meet an infected person and still get infected with airborne transmission. The virus leaves the mouth and nose. They need to up their game on masks.


  • #2217
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    :D:D I was trying to be kind to our current journos who have taken to twitter recently to defend themselves...

    in reality....as much as i respect their effort....they are fairly awful... bar fergal bowers who is good... the rest are quite terrible....but this is not a personal attack etc...

    So ACE and Fergal Bowers are my two sources at the moment.

    Zara is King :D
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #2218
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    HSE Daily Operations Update
    14 in hospital, increase of 1.
    4 confirmed cases today - 1 in Cavan, 1 in Connolly, 1 in Naas and 1 in Tallaght.
    8 in ICU, increase of 2.
    5 ventilated, increase of 1.

    Hospitals:
    Kilkenny (-3) - 1
    Mater (--) - 2
    UHL (--) - 2
    Cavan (+1) - 2
    Connolly (+1) - 2
    Mullingar (--) - 1
    Naas (+1) - 1
    Tallaght (+1) - 2
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Tullamore (-1) - 0

    ICU:
    Mater (--) - 2
    Tallaght (--) - 1
    Sligo (--) - 1
    Kilkenny (--) - 1
    Beaumont (--) - 1
    Connolly (+1) - 1
    Mullingar (+1) - 1

    The hospital figures have been remarkably stable over the past 2 weeks.
    I know it's the young and less vulnerable getting infected etc... so that shouldn't be a surprise.

    But there's 2 lessons to be learnt. Israel opened up after their peak and pretty much went back to normal life and now their second peak has 5x the cases and 2x their deaths (Australia is following a similar pattern). Spain opened slowly and their cases are rising, but their hospital and ICU admissions are also rising quickly.

    My only worry is people get complacent and it will eventually spread into vulnerable groups and then we start to see more admissions and more deaths.
    You can't keep covid out of hospitals and nursing homes indefinitely, the lower the community cases, they less risk they face.


  • #2219
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Still waters wrote: »
    Lockdown from monday on for the whole country, got a text from my aunt who's a very senior civil servant working in kildare street, be interesting to see if theres any truth in it come monday or if she's taking the piss out of me

    And if she had balls she'd be your uncle.


  • #2220
    Still waters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    Seamai wrote: »
    And if she had balls she'd be your uncle.

    What has that got to do with covid19


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  • #2221
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Still waters wrote: »
    What has that got to do with covid19
    Threadbanned


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