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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #2042
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    road_high wrote: »
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

    Wow.


  • #2043
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    The alternative is businesses up and down the country being shut and the economy being driven into the ground, creating a recession that will plague the young generation for years and decades to come.

    You can die from anything these days as long as its not covid! All the people without a livelihood, all the people with severely worsening mental health, all the people not getting seen in hospitals because of covid. Fcuk them right? Let's not open up like the rest of Europe, which we are a part of. Let's kill the economy and peoples mental health, let's fearmonger at every possible opportunity, lets create panic when we dont have to.

    :rolleyes:

    What isn't open at the moment?


  • #2044
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    mloc123 wrote: »
    And lots are saying there are little to no long term affects

    Lots are also not medical experts.
    Research has started looking into possible long term effects until we see the results there is nothing to prove there are or are not long term efftecs.


  • #2045
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

    So open up leave all these people at home, tell me, who is going to do their jobs with the economy opened?

    You keep posting this drivel day in, day out and sometimes with a bit of hysteria thrown in with absolutely no clue as to how it can be done logistically.


  • #2046
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Do people seriously think almost every government in the world intentionally wants to cripple their own economy? It's about balancing the risk of your entire health care system being overwhelmed, with keeping the output of your economy as high as possible. Once you have sufficient spread in the community the shielding of the vulnerable groups crumbles. We're all connected; the most invulnerable person to COVID still has a connection with someone who is highly vulnerable.

    That said, risks to the virus shouldn't be quantified in absolute terms of death. Even cancer isn't counted this way. Disease morbidity, duration of treatment and resources required are much better metrics.


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  • #2047
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    If you overlook those who's heart and/or lungs have been aged by decades in weeks this is true!

    What percentage of cases is this? Anyway... My point was, there are lots of reports of long term affects... Lots of no long term affects. Basically we have lots of conflicting reports because in reality, we don't know.


  • #2048
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Can someone explain to me why Gavan Reilly of virgin media news has the 5 day average at 76.14?

    67+92+40+35+57=291 divided by 5 = 58.2


  • #2049
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Not by a long shot, public transport is still limited to essential journeys only.

    Really? I thought it was for journeys that you Couldn't walk or cycle too


  • #2050
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

    Far from being opened up...Majority of offices still closed 10's of thousands of people sat at home....
    ...... bingo halls/casinos closed, Bars closed, live music/nightclubs closed, limited service in Restaurants, cinemas, certain retail stores are click/collect/non-browse. Transport restricted to limited numbers. Essential council works only. Airports operating at reduced staff numbers. Travel abroad not permitted. Hospital waiting lists growing by the day due to Covid taking priority. Health centres running on limited capacity.


  • #2051
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Do people seriously think almost every government in the world intentionally wants to cripple their own economy? It's about balancing the risk of your entire health care system being overwhelmed, with keeping the output of your economy as high as possible. Once you have sufficient spread in the community the shielding of the vulnerable groups crumbles. We're all connected; the most invulnerable person to COVID still has a connection with someone who is highly vulnerable.

    That said, risks to the virus shouldn't be quantified in absolute terms of death. Even cancer isn't counted this way. Disease morbidity, duration of treatment and resources required are much better metrics.

    Nah, less of your social cohesion talk mate, it's Logan's Run, innit.


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  • #2052
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    The country is basically opened up except for alcohol only pubs and discos.

    Eh no.


  • #2053
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Far from being opened up...Majority of offices still closed 10's of thousands of people sat at home....
    ...... bingo halls/casinos closed, Bars closed, live music/nightclubs closed, limited service in Restaurants, cinemas, certain retail stores are click/collect/non-browse. Transport restricted to limited numbers. Essential council works only. Airports operating at reduced staff numbers. Travel abroad not permitted. Hospital waiting lists growing by the day due to Covid taking priority. Health centres running on limited capacity.

    I'm sure people can still travel abroad. Many office workers are working from home. The reduction in staff numbers across many industries is due to demand, even if opened up people will be too scared out of fear of killing nanny, and right fully so.


  • #2054
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

    Absolute lunacy.


  • #2055
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    mloc123 wrote: »
    What percentage of cases is this? Anyway... My point was, there are lots of reports of long term affects... Lots of no long term affects. Basically we have lots of conflicting reports because in reality, we don't know.

    Part of the problem here was health surveillance agencies were playing catch up from the start. Only recently has the dialogue begun about setting up COVID registries to track long term effects. Preliminary results suggest there is cause for concern here but it is far too early to draw any definitive conclusions.

    "Recovered" with regard to COVID right now is a very vague term.


  • #2056
    shinzon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Far from being opened up...Majority of offices still closed 10's of thousands of people sat at home....
    ...... bingo halls/casinos closed, Bars closed, live music/nightclubs closed, limited service in Restaurants, cinemas, certain retail stores are click/collect/non-browse. Transport restricted to limited numbers. Essential council works only. Airports operating at reduced staff numbers. Travel abroad not permitted. Hospital waiting lists growing by the day due to Covid taking priority. Health centres running on limited capacity.

    In otherwords as open as it can be due to covid people are just going to have to face it there is no going back to pre March in any meaningful way so be glad of what is open as its going to be this way for awhile

    Shin


  • #2057
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    shinzon wrote: »
    Easy to forget one of these days all of you here telling people to lock themselves away so the young can get on with whatever they want will also get old, just remember what you said on boards.ie on 14/8/2020 and see how you like it when your the one been told to lock yourselves away.

    Absolute ageist bollocks

    Shin

    I’d say the exact same thing if I was elderly and had an underlying condition. See I’m not just a selfish deluded twat that thinks all life such seize because of me. These people pay the pensions, the economic activity needed to support the pensions and supports the less able all enjoy. Watch this space, this will be the only option going forward


  • #2058
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,359 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    A mushroom plant has been closed in west Tipp

    any relation to the mushroom field in Cavan that was updated to a class 3 relic :D:D


  • #2059
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    No thanks , I don’t want to have to stay at home while meat plants carry on a ****eshow and young people gather in crowds to drink . I don’t want to stay in my house while some young people have house parties and factories pay no attention to social distancing .
    We have done everything asked of us and still only go shopping or to parks or beaches . If everyone else plays along fine but until they do I won’t appreciate having to pay the price for some doing just as they please

    Why should able bodied not at risk peole have to stay at home with you?
    I think the work ethic in this country has collapsed. No one wants to get out and do anything anymore


  • #2060
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes you do. I think as this goes on and on that will be the only way. It’s utterly ridiculous leaving able bodied fit young people at home doing nothing when they can be out learning, working and contributing to the nation.
    Otherwise we’re headed for a nation of do nothing cripples

    shinzon wrote: »
    Easy to forget one of these days all of you here telling people to lock themselves away so the young can get on with whatever they want will also get old, just remember what you said on boards.ie on 14/8/2020 and see how you like it when your the one been told to lock yourselves away.

    Absolute ageist bollocks

    Shin

    Ahh feck off with giving him the 'ageist' accusation :)

    There's plenty of older people would agree with him, that society has to live with this disease as much as possible and that the elderly and vulnerable need to take appropriate self responsibility. My 80 yr old mother is quite vocal in saying younger people need to go out and live their lives. Mind you, she's living her life too, and making the choices that work for her. Society can't perpetually protect the vulnerable either if a vaccine doesn't arrive.


  • #2061
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,506 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Travel abroad not permitted.

    Not permitted as in sure you can only anywhere you want?


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  • #2062
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,679 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    but it's a discussion forum and people will challenge you if they think what you post is false.
    What exactly did ACE post that was false, AFAICE he posted that the Irish figures if we removed certain counties weren’t bad, so where is the hassle? If you want his opinion on the 100% Irish figures, ask him.

    As for me, I appreciate the effort that he puts in every day to educate all of us and I hope that he continues.

    Also, considering that he is a young guy who has finished his degree, EMPLOY HIM.


  • #2063
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    smurfjed wrote: »
    What exactly did ACE post that was false, AFAICE he posted that the Irish figures if we removed certain counties weren’t bad, so where is the hassle? If you want his opinion on the 100% Irish figures, ask him.

    . HIM.

    That makes no sense . Some counties figures are not bad yes but the Irish figures are . You can’t just remove counties and decide not to count them in a national figure .


  • #2064
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,506 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Coybig_ wrote: »

    Fearmongering would make you sick tbh.


    You think Western Capitalism has crashed itself for the Jollies?

    Cool.


  • #2065
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    smurfjed wrote: »
    What exactly did ACE post that was false, AFAICE he posted that the Irish figures if we removed certain counties weren’t bad, so where is the hassle? If you want his opinion on the 100% Irish figures, ask him.

    As for me, I appreciate the effort that he puts in every day to educate all of us and I hope that he continues.

    Also, considering that he is a young guy who has finished his degree, EMPLOY HIM.

    it's a discussion forum. people will debate.


  • #2066
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭fits


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Carlow is very very close to lockdown i think

    I’ve been fearing this all week. Cases well dispersed throughout county too from what I know. Currently 14 day rate is > 30/100000


  • #2067
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    So how many are dieing from c19 dilaily in Ireland?


  • #2068
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Onesea wrote: »
    So how many are dieing from c19 dilaily in Ireland?

    Why are you asking a question you know the answer to before asking? Trolling?


  • #2069
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Onesea wrote: »
    So how many are dieing from c19 dilaily in Ireland?

    None! you'll be delighted to hear thanks to the hard work of the Irish community.


  • #2070
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Got my hair cut earlier this week and while waiting I noticed that the guy in front of me wasn't wearing a mask, the barber told me that he said he had a medical condition and couldn't wear one. What conditions would they be exactly? I'm guessing someone with certain respiratory conditions if anything would need to be a lot more careful.


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  • #2071
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Onesea wrote: »
    So how many are dieing from c19 dilaily in Ireland?

    thankfully it's mostly younger people getting infected and the risk is much lower for them. the goal is to keep it like that.


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