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Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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  • #1832
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Ah that's different. Never saw that part.

    Yeah, best get tested so

    He just made that up, the child doesn't have a cold.


  • #1833
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Not discussing your nasal drip, the topic is a child with a cold who is potentially a close contact of a positive case.


    erm is this post not what you were all responding to https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114304493&postcount=1786 no close contact


  • #1834
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    seanb85 wrote: »
    We should be aiming to have a system in place that allows for everyone with cold symptoms to get a test for the next two years at least.

    This is crazy talk, has anyone here children as it sure doesn't seem like it.
    Everyone will be in and out of isolation like yoyo's, society has no hope of functioning.


  • #1835
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The only way we can get back to any semblance of normality is if people avail of tests when they’re sick. Test negative and get on with your life without others having to worry that you’re carrying something. Not really sure why you’re arguing against it.

    It's a ****ing drip down the back of my throat I've had for 6 years, due to years of smoking and allergies! I take stuff for it that helps!

    Why the **** would I go get tested for a condition I have had for 6 years and that was diagnosed by a Doctor 6 years ago?

    How and why would people worry about something they don't know I have or can't even tell I have?


  • #1836
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The anti-testing rhetoric on here today is baffling tbh


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  • #1837
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure how getting a free, less than 30 second test = hysteria :confused:

    For an adult maybe. If I had to get my three year old tested, we would need two additional adults to hold his arms down and the other to grip his head still. They'd probably have to fit some kind of dental frame to keep his mouth open.

    I have to wrestle him to the floor to wash his face or brush his teeth in normal circumstances.

    No way would I put him through a test, even if it were only for 30 seconds (which is actually pretty long when you count it out), unless I was completely sure it was for a very good reason. Not just on a whim.


  • #1838
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    MOR316 wrote: »
    It's a ****ing drip down the back of my throat I've had for 6 years, due to years of smoking and allergies! I take stuff for it that helps!

    Why the **** would I go get tested for a condition I have had for 6 years and that was diagnosed by a Doctor 6 years ago?
    Because we live in a world where you should?


  • #1839
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The anti-testing rhetoric on here today is baffling tbh

    The kid hasn't any symptoms of Covid, it's not anti-testing to tell people stop being hysterical and have some common sense.


  • #1840
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    JDD wrote: »
    This I get. I've no problem staying home or keeping my kid at home until they are over the cold, which usually takes 2-3 days, sometimes a bit more. If they get a temperature or a persistent cough then they'll be whisked off for a test.

    If you think I'll be keeping them home for 14 days every time they sneeze, even when they are over the cold, to make sure that covid doesn't show up a week later, well that's just not workable.

    This is what is meant by living with the virus - we will do everything reasonably practical to keep the virus at bay, while accepting in a small number of cases the precautions taken will not be enough.

    I have three children. They spend 80% of the winter sneezing and snuffling. If I were to isolate them for two weeks everytime one of them sneezed I might as well homeschool them for the year. And that goes for every single other child in the country. Some common sense needs to be applied, which is why it should be left to your GP to make the call.

    EDIT: And if I was insisting on a covid test every time one of them showed early cold symptoms I'd say our family would be responsible for about 50 tests before next March. Is that reasonable or would my GP reasonably tell me to f*** off and stop clogging up the system.

    We're all panicky now because it's the start of cold season. Come December I'm sure people will feel more comfortable making the call.

    I completely agree with this. There probably isn't any need to isolate for 14 days. I think isolation or restrictions for a 5 days or 7 days would be more than enough just to see what it is. If it's a cold and it clears up quickly, within a few days, good. If symptoms persist or worsen, continue to isolate.


  • #1841
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    expectationlost wrote: »
    erm is this post not what you were all responding to https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114304493&postcount=1786 no close contact
    US2 wrote: »
    Cousin got tested this morning, she was a close contact to someone last Monday and got a phonecall from contact tracers on Thursday.

    Must be waiting 7 days to test contacts? Makes sense given incubation period I suppose, but I thought they test on day 1 and day 7.
    From this post i got that impression. Now that I reread it, possibly not a close contact.

    Still no harm to ring the GP.


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  • #1842
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    This is crazy talk, has anyone here children as it sure doesn't seem like it.
    Everyone will be in and out of isolation like yoyo's, society has no hope of functioning.

    That's how to avoid isolation, by testing symptomatic people. If they don't get tested then they should really be going into isolation for two weeks.


  • #1843
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Because we live in a world where you should?

    Even though I know what it is, even though my doctor knows what it is, even though I take medication for it that is prescribed to me by my doctor, I should get tested again for a drip down the back of my throat, that I've had for 6 years, brought on by years of smoking, because it could be Covid 19 related, 6 years before the virus even existed?


    Right, OK


  • #1844
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Hi lads. I feel it in my fingers, I feel it in my toes. Should I get tested?


  • #1845
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Because we live in a world where you should?

    In fairness, it should be new symptoms right? 500,000 people in Ireland suffer from hay fever. I didn't see 500,000 people looking for tests in May/June/July because of their allergies, which they know full well are allergies.


  • #1846
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I think it's great. We won't need to test anymore, we can just get the experts on here to give a remote diagnosis.

    :D
    In all seriousness we should be trying to test as many people as possible imo. I don’t think there’s such a thing as a wasted test.


  • #1847
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    :D
    In all seriousness we should be trying to test as many people as possible imo. I don’t think there’s such a thing as a wasted test.

    That's fine but, when you have a known and on going condition, that you know has nothing to do with Covid 19, why would I test for that?

    For the record, I did get tested. I had to as I was returning to work in my Office. But, why would I go and get tested for something I know and my Doctor knows is not related to any virus, at all?


  • #1848
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The only way we can get back to any semblance of normality is if people avail of tests when they’re sick. Test negative and get on with your life without others having to worry that you’re carrying something. Not really sure why you’re arguing against it.

    But for how long can you get on with your life before you're back again for another test? For example, if you have sinus issues they can become inflamed every few weeks over a period of a few months.


  • #1849
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    polesheep wrote: »
    But for how long can you get on with your life before you're back again for another test? For example, if you have sinus issues they can become inflamed every few weeks over a period of a few months.

    Back for another 30 second test with results within 36hrs?


  • #1850
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Back for another 30 second test with results within 36hrs?
    It seems pretty invasive, tbf - especially for a kid. I haven't had the test done, so can't comment for sure, but..


  • #1851
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Back for another 30 second test with results within 36hrs?

    So tested every two weeks or so for a period of months with a known issue? Are you being serious? What is needed is to get back to the early conditions for a test via the GP.


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  • #1852
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    polesheep wrote: »
    So tested every two weeks or so for a period of months with a known issue? Are you being serious? What is needed is to get back to the early conditions for a test via the GP.

    Why would you get tested every two weeks? You’re just taking me out of context now.


  • #1853
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Ficheall wrote: »
    It seems pretty invasive, tbf - especially for a kid. I haven't had the test done, so can't comment for sure, but..

    If you go for an STI check they'll put a swab up your flute, people (even kids) should be able to handle a swab up the nose.


  • #1854
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Why would you get tested every two weeks? You’re just taking me out of context now.

    If I get tested today and it's negative and my sinuses settle down in a few days and then a week or so later they flare up again then, according to what you said, I should go for another test. That's how sinusitis can be, especially in the winter months.


  • #1855
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    polesheep wrote: »
    If I get tested today and it's negative and my sinuses settle down in a few days and then a week or so later they flare up again then, according to what you said, I should go for another test. That's how sinusitis can be, especially in the winter months.

    You should get tested when you get sick. If you have the exact same symptoms two weeks later then there’s zero reason to get retested.


  • #1856
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    seanb85 wrote: »
    If you go for an STI check they'll put a swab up your flute, people (even kids) should be able to handle a swab up the nose.

    You sound like you would put kids through sheep dip if you thought it would keep you safer.


  • #1857
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    It's absolutely fine, the media really over exaggerated how bad it is. I picked my nose once as a child and hurt myself, that was way more painful than the swabs. The throat one you hardly even feel it if they do it properly (which they probably will, because they do a tonne of them). Don't be worrying about it, medical procedures are an unpleasant part of life but the idea that you'd avoid them because of this is terrible.


  • #1858
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    seanb85 wrote: »
    If you go for an STI check they'll put a swab up your flute, people (even kids) should be able to handle a swab up the nose.
    Do you go for an STI check when you've a stuffed nose?


  • #1859
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Do you go for an STI check when you've a stuffed nose?

    :confused:


  • #1860
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    You should get tested when you get sick. If you have the exact same symptoms two weeks later then there’s zero reason to get retested.

    That's the point that was being made. Children go from sniffle to sniffle in their early years while their immune system is developing.


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  • #1861
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    polesheep wrote: »
    That's the point that was being made. Children go from sniffle to sniffle in their early years while their immune system is developing.

    And they should be tested at the first instance, which others are denying.


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