Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

Goldengirl wrote: »

True, but how do you know if someone is ' unsick' or an asymptomatic spreader , without regular testing ?

We don't test for all other things that make people sick why single out Covid.
Would it make more sense to test for undiagnosed underlying health conditions, a national diabetes, heart disease program for example.

Micky 32 wrote: »

If a vaccine is approved ( looking more likely there will be than not) and provided you take it you’ll be safe enough to do what you want including travelling again.

Yes I intend to take a vaccine as soon as I can get one safely

KrustyUCC wrote: »

One step back is Phase two

Two steps back is Phase One

That's certainly lockdown

To be fair he/ she said step, as in close hairdressers or gyms , for example , not Phases .
That's what I took it to be anyhow . Maybe it could have been phrased clearer so it wouldn't still be an issue for some , pages later !
But you read whatever suits you into the comment , and pillory the poster . Like others on the other side have been pilloried for a slip of the keyboard .
That is what is going on here . Point scoring .

Let's get back to discussing the issue instead of semantics .

These threads would make a fascinating Sociology case study

On one hand, we have people like ACE and another few posters (Stephen is one of them? Can't recall their user name) posting here, giving great information and dumbing down various numbers and aspects so that idiots like me can understand things better. Quite helpful, providing us with their time and figures that some of us, myself included, are either too lazy to go and get or just not arsed in general. Very thankful to those posters and it's much appreciated

Then, we have people who are worried and scared.
Some of these, I totally understand and totally get and it's not a criticism of them at all. Unknown times etc. Some are nervous when someone coughs because of a harmless nasal drip, others because of Hayfever sniffles. I get it, it's unknown, you don't wanna spread it if you get it and I totally relate and understand.

But, there's the other group of bat **** (ironic description not intended) mentalists who are equally as frightening as they are entertaining.
There are some posters constantly trying to contradict people like ACE and the data he provides and then get really aggressive in their posting when they can't sway him/her.
Then, there were posters in the previous thread demanding to know why he/she wasn't worried and were demanding to know when he/she will start worrying (That was hilarious )
And then, I saw someone posting about going into a restaurant and people were eating and drinking at tables without wearing a mask. They were horrified, livid by this and some agreed :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I don't know about any of you but, I'd imagine it to be fairly impossible to eat or drink whilst wearing a mask

In conclusion, it's highly entertaining. Keep it up!
And, if there are any Sociology students about, Boards.ie have just written your thesis for you

Drumpot wrote: »

Somebody asked earlier about cinemas.

I’m just out of a screening of Intersteller and it was a great experience. Very well monitored, people (only 4 in screen to be fair) kept good distance , wore masks in and out and I’m looking forward to going again.

Seen this movie several time’s but it’s just superb on the big screen. Loved it every bit as much as when I first saw it, prob one of the best movies I’ve seen in ages in the cinema. I highly recommend it, especially to those who haven’t seen it..

Felt nice to do something pre COVId “normal” And didn’t have a care at any stage. Well done cinema....

Yeah, having the cinema back is great isn't it? Can't get enough of it now myself

Gael23 wrote: »

Yes I intend to take a vaccine as soon as I can get one safely

Be careful what you take, the state rushed through a swine flu vaccine 10yrs ago and it's only now in the High Courts, https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/second-legal-action-over-swine-flu-vaccine-listed-for-november-1.4305550
Could make the Governments case for a rushed mandatory vaccine very difficulty depending on the outcome.

Micky 32 wrote: »

That would be to help eradicate the virus or keep cases to a minimum. But as an individual and you take it at least it will protect you from getting it.

It won't, you can still get it and it may be a milder case. It definitely doesn't provide immunity.

Drumpot wrote: »

Somebody asked earlier about cinemas.

I’m just out of a screening of Intersteller and it was a great experience. Very well monitored, people (only 4 in screen to be fair) kept good distance , wore masks in and out and I’m looking forward to going again.

Seen this movie several time’s but it’s just superb on the big screen. Loved it every bit as much as when I first saw it, prob one of the best movies I’ve seen in ages in the cinema. I highly recommend it, especially to those who haven’t seen it..

Felt nice to do something pre COVId “normal” And didn’t have a care at any stage. Well done cinema....

i would risk getting a dose watching that masterpiece on the big screen

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It won't, you can still get it and it may be a milder case. It definitely doesn't provide immunity.

So what is the point of a vaccine then? I’ll take a milder case anyway if it brings back some normality.
The vaccines have been proven to work they are in phase iii to get approval to prove they are safe, did you do any research on them at all or did you pull your comment out of your arse?

Goldengirl wrote: »

Setting up any national health screening would be an excellent idea but would take time and money . Some are screened for already eg . Colon cancer.
It also doesn't follow that those people diagnosed are the only people at risk from Covid .
Covid is the immediate risk, an infectious disease causing a pandemic aand it is relatively cheap and easy to test for , compared to diagnosing other illnesses.

I recall reading that part of Americas problem is got to do with obesity, those would be pre or already have diabetes and heart problems many probably undiagnosed. Diabetes would leave you wide open to complications with Covid.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Weren't the meat factory workers mostly asymptomatic. We should have stats on health care workers as well.

They were asymptomatic at the time, but that was well within the typical incubation period.

So, no. Not really

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I recall reading that part of Americas problem is got to do with obesity, those would be pre or already have diabetes and heart problems many probably undiagnosed. Diabetes would leave you wide open to complications with Covid.

None of that in Ireland, of course,

or the UK,

or Italy,

or Spain...