Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2020 06:26PM

I think it's time to remove all the counties that have cases and declare Ireland Covid free.

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:26PM

gmisk wrote: »

Nope he is right.
80 on 11th august
78.3 on 12th
76.4 on 13th

But it was shooting up before that.

Average has gone up today. Last thursdays 69 drops up, this thursdays 92 goes in.

Chart mustn’t have updated yet.

froog · 13-08-2020 06:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You're joking?

yep i said "not good". not "jesus christ what?? that is NOT GOOD!!!"

froog · 13-08-2020 06:27PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Covid ICU beds are almost empty across the country. Replicated almost identically across the world where the virus has already risen and fallen.

Do you think that’s due to the competency of our leaders and medical experts and compliance of the public or is something else happening?

it's because we have successfully protected those in high risk groups. and we need to keep it that way.

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 06:27PM

is_that_so wrote: »

There is that quote about anuses and opinions! The academics have bickered amongst themselves with far too many of them want to be proven right. Schools then pubs is our strategy. So far, excluding the more recent midlands issues, we have not had to roll back on our decisions. We want to open schools and leave them open. Having high risk locations like pubs closed for a few more weeks is a small price to pay for that.

There not high risk the evidence doesn't support that, I repeat 10 clusters from 46,000 pubs, we have 7,000 do the math on how risky they are.
There is no and I mean no evidence masks work outside a labatory, he had to even set the record straight when one of the Irish guys contradicted his point on them as he is an expert and an advisor to the WHO. It's not just his opinion, it's evidence based.

JP Liz V1 · 13-08-2020 06:27PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Anything to back that up? Just wondering not seen anything about it.

Would be pure speculation to blame the outdoor gathering in Kilkee last week

No concrete proof or fact just hearing of younger aged cases of individuals at the Kilkee party

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:28PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Covid ICU beds are almost empty across the country. Replicated almost identically across the world where the virus has already risen and fallen.

Do you think that’s due to the competency of our leaders and medical experts and compliance of the public or is something else happening?

I think we have very high compliance from the public. I also think we now have potential ‘leakage’ that can hopefully be maintained.

I believe it could go either way. I’m not doom and gloom, but some of the positive spin being put on the numbers isn’t warranted either.

gmisk · 13-08-2020 06:28PM

Benimar wrote: »

Average has gone up today. Last thursdays 69 drops up, this thursdays 92 goes in.

Chart mustn’t have updated yet.

It's a rolling 7 day average I would say....it doesn't matter if it's 92 today and 69 last Thursday it's a rolling average.

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2020 06:29PM

froog wrote: »

yep i said "not good". not "jesus christ what?? that is NOT GOOD!!!"

Why do you believe "we need to go back a step or two and fast" ?

Two steps back would be phase one

Santy2015 · 13-08-2020 06:29PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

What in gods jaysis name are you on about?

Another one of the tin foil hat and curtain twitching brigade. If you need curtains for your bay window that can sustain an unbelievable amount of twitching they are the people to get onto, that’s only if they leave the house first

JP Liz V1 · 13-08-2020 06:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Some people on here need to go for a pint and chill out

Open all the pubs drunk lives matter

froog · 13-08-2020 06:29PM

1. it's only clusters
2. take dublin and kildare out and it's actually grand
3. there's 3 days there when the 7 day average was actually dropping by a small amount
4. those outbreaks in those 5 other countys we knew about already so that's grand

just stop lad :pac:

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 06:30PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

No concrete proof or fact just hearing of younger aged cases of individuals at the Kilkee party

Halting site was responsible for about 14 of the Clare cases. Not sure of exact numbers from the Kilkee party but it doesn't seem to be anything major.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:30PM

i have been converted, shut the country down

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:30PM

gmisk wrote: »

It's a rolling 7 day average I would say....

Correct, and it has gone up by 3.29 cases per day.

Yesterday’s was based on Aug 6-12, today’s is based on Aug 7-13. Cases in 6th were 69, cases on 13th (today) are 92. It’s a mathematical certainty it has gone up.

Emmersonn · 13-08-2020 06:30PM

Time to lockdown Dublin.

froog · 13-08-2020 06:30PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why do you believe "we need to go back a step or two and fast" ?

Two steps back would be phase one

why do you think? what in the news the last few weeks would lead me to this conclusion. think hard now.

Gruffalux · 13-08-2020 06:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Sorry, your opinion really means so much to me that I will stop

Later on when you get on other people's wick and they snap at you, do not start up with the crap about how you are never nasty to anybody.

is_that_so · 13-08-2020 06:32PM

The Unbearables wrote: »

Open it all up spin merchants on overtime I see.

There are obsessives at both extremes. Our strategy into the medium term will be to live with this,manage it and open up society. In about 2 weeks close enough to 1m primary and secondary students will be starting back at school. It is the biggest opening up since this began and it has to happen.

JP Liz V1 · 13-08-2020 06:34PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Halting site was responsible for about 14 of the Clare cases. Not sure of exact numbers from the Kilkee party but it doesn't seem to be anything major.

Do they play GAA :P

I thought the site was Wexford, was Clare another one too?

lee_baby_simms · 13-08-2020 06:34PM

froog wrote: »

it's because we have successfully protected those in high risk groups. and we need to keep it that way.

In the exact same way as every other country in the world? Why are the curves all so similar regardless of measures?

Boggles · 13-08-2020 06:35PM

Worrying up tick of community transmission the past couple of days.

70 cases outside known clusters or contacts with a minimum of 36% odd being unknown, probably more.

Too short a time frame to call it a trend.

The virus is certainly doing it's best to reseed itself.

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2020 06:36PM

froog wrote: »

why do you think? what in the news the last few weeks would lead me to this conclusion. think hard now.

Nothing in the news the last few weeks would suggest that we need to go back to phase one

It is not warranted

What are you basing your opinion on?

Non solum non ambulabit · 13-08-2020 06:37PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

92 new cases
0 deaths

Backlog well and truly cleared

Yes. Expected as much.

froog · 13-08-2020 06:37PM

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

In the exact same way as every other country in the world? Why are the curves all so similar regardless of measures?

high risk groups are being super careful. younger people are not. this is why we have rising cases and less rises in hospitals. and the higher the cases get, the greater the risk for the high risk groups. so we need to protect them, and not cater to people annoyed at not being able to have a pint or go to a match.

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 06:38PM

is_that_so wrote: »

There are obsessives at both extremes. Our strategy into the medium term will be to live with this,manage it and open up society. In about 2 weeks close enough to 1m primary and secondary students will be starting back at school. It is the biggest opening up since this began and it has to happen.

It's an experiment based on no evidence it will work, the long term health implications for our youth could be huge and lead to massive future health care costs not to mention what it could to their parents.
Pubs were the place to study this not with children. If Leo and Michael have this one wrong they should be tarred and feathered.

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

i have been converted, shut the country down

Ah yes, because anyone who can’t clearly see how positive the numbers are if you take out anyone whose name starts with A (or similar BS) wants the country shut down.

Maybe we are just a bit concerned things are slipping and can see that there may be bigger problems ahead.

froog · 13-08-2020 06:39PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Nothing in the news the last few weeks would suggest that we need to go back to phase one

It is not warranted

What are you basing your opinion on?

the rising cases.

gmisk · 13-08-2020 06:39PM

Benimar wrote: »

Correct, and it has gone up by 3.29 cases per day.

Yesterday’s was based on Aug 6-12, today’s is based on Aug 7-13. Cases in 6th were 69, cases on 13th (today) are 92. It’s a mathematical certainty it has gone up.

Ah ok cheers I was only going by chart on that site

is_that_so · 13-08-2020 06:39PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

There not high risk the evidence doesn't support that, I repeat 10 clusters from 46,000 pubs, we have 7,000 do the math on how risky they are.
There is no and I mean no evidence masks work outside a labatory, he had to even set the record straight when one of the Irish guys contradicted his point on them as he is an expert and an advisor to the WHO. It's not just his opinion, it's evidence based.

Do you want to link to this evidence or just trust some "expert"? COVID-19 really is to medical experts what 2009 was to economists, lots of noise and ego. Who is this guy anyway? Not sure what it is you're trying to say, the remaining pubs have been pushed out three more weeks, not indefinitely.

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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