Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

is_that_so · 13-08-2020 06:16PM

mloc123 wrote: »

As is the doom and gloom schools will open, there will be clusters... We will get on with it.

If they get definitions/groups and protocols right there should not be a huge disruption but I think there will be cases anyway.

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:17PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Take Kildare and Dublin out of the mix and you've got ~40 cases a day for a population of 5 million, entirely sustainable.

A come on! Take out the Kildare and Dublin cases, but not the population :pac:

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 06:17PM

Interesting to listen to the UK professor feeding into the WHO this evening in the covid special advisory committee.
Thinks we're making a mistake by not opening the pubs they've had 10 clusters out of 46,000 pubs which are a good place to study how the virus behaves and there is 0 evidence mask wearing works from what little experience they have in the UK it has the opposite effect and causes cases to rise. There's a real world study happening in Denmark at the moment with results to be published soon as to their effectiveness.
He pretty much said our knee jerk reactions have to stop there doing more harm than good. Our policys aren't based on all the evidence were cherry picking studies to support government policy which is plain wrong.

Always_Running · 13-08-2020 06:17PM

I see it as 66 cases the last two days than 40,92 as reported. Two days in a row for community transmissions to go into double figures, Kildare remain the worse hit of the 3 counties on lockdown.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:18PM

Benimar wrote: »

A come on! Take out the Kildare and Dublin cases, but not the population :pac:

Do you deny that the majority of cases arising in this country come from Kildare and Dublin?

froog · 13-08-2020 06:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You realise our 7 day average is dropping, yes?

unless you have different data it looks to me like it dropped just once yesterday and will be going back up today.

lee_baby_simms · 13-08-2020 06:18PM

The Unbearables wrote: »

Terrible terrible numbers. It's spreading everywhere again.

It’s already been everywhere.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:18PM

froog wrote: »

unless you have different data it looks to me like it dropped just once yesterday and will be going back up today.

Today is the first time it has risen in 4 days.

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Do you deny that the majority of cases arising in this country come from Kildare and Dublin?

Do you deny the population is far less than 5m if you take out Kildare and Dublin?

wadacrack · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

mloc123 wrote: »

As is the doom and gloom schools will open, there will be clusters... We will get on with it.

Theirs 3 counties on lockdown atm. Their may not be a choice.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

Some people on here need to go for a pint and chill out

KrustyUCC · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Anything to back that up? Just wondering not seen anything about it.

Would be pure speculation to blame the outdoor gathering in Kilkee last week

Meant to be a house party as opposed to that large outdoor gathering

spookwoman · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

Guess the merchants of doom are to blame for todays numbers, the 74 new clusters and the 151 cases associated with them :rolleyes:

froog · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Take Kildare and Dublin out of the mix and you've got ~40 cases a day for a population of 5 million, entirely sustainable.

why ignore kildare and dublin ffs?

stephenjmcd · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

MD1990 wrote: »

schools re opening wont last very long

Well based on what the CMO has said they expect clusters from schools but doesn't mean they'll all close

Jim_Hodge · 13-08-2020 06:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You realise our 7 day average is dropping, yes?

No it isn't, it's rising.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:20PM

Benimar wrote: »

Do you deny the population is far less than 5m if you take out Kildare and Dublin?

Sorry, I forgot that 40 cases for almost 3.6 million people is unsustainable

gmisk · 13-08-2020 06:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You realise our 7 day average is dropping, yes?

Barely...and only in last two days.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?yScale=log&zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-07-12..latest&casesMetric=true&interval=smoothed&smoothing=7&country=~IRL&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:20PM

froog wrote: »

why ignore kildare and dublin ffs?

Because over 50% of daily cases have come from there for the past 3 days?

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:21PM

I genuinely do not understand the surprise when cases increase, we were literally told yesterday this would happen

froog · 13-08-2020 06:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Because over 50% of daily cases have come from there for the past 3 days?

yup. again, why ignore them to suit your narrative? it's laughable.

Benimar · 13-08-2020 06:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot that 40 cases for almost 3.6 million people is unsustainable

Well why didn’t you just state that instead of skewing the numbers. Like your claim the 7 day average was going down?

In one sense I admire your 100% positivity, but it’s ok to admit when the numbers aren’t as good as they were.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:22PM

Benimar wrote: »

Well why didn’t you just state that instead of skewing the numbers. Like your claim the 7 day average was going down?

In one sense I admire your 100% positivity, but it’s ok to admit when the numbers aren’t as good as they were.

Sorry, your opinion really means so much to me that I will stop

is_that_so · 13-08-2020 06:22PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Interesting to listen to the UK professor feeding into the WHO this evening in the covid special advisory committee.
Thinks we're making a mistake by not opening the pubs they've had 10 clusters out of 46,000 pubs which are a good place to study how the virus behaves and there is 0 evidence mask wearing works from what little experience they have in the UK it has the opposite effect and causes cases to rise. There's a real world study happening in Denmark at the moment with results to be published soon as to their effectiveness.
He pretty much said our knee jerk reactions have to stop their doing more harm than good. Our policys aren't based on all the evidence were cherry picking studies to support government policy which is plain wrong.

There is that quote about anuses and opinions! The academics have bickered amongst themselves with far too many of them want to be proven right. Schools then pubs is our strategy. So far, excluding the more recent midlands issues, we have not had to roll back on our decisions. We want to open schools and leave them open. Having high risk locations like pubs closed for a few more weeks is a small price to pay for that.

The Unbearables · 13-08-2020 06:23PM

Open it all up spin merchants on overtime I see.

froog · 13-08-2020 06:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I genuinely do not understand the surprise when cases increase, we were literally told yesterday this would happen

who is surprised?

gmisk · 13-08-2020 06:23PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

No it isn't, it's rising.

Nope he is right.
80 on 11th august
78.3 on 12th
76.4 on 13th

But it was shooting up before that.

Jim_Hodge · 13-08-2020 06:24PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Take Kildare and Dublin out of the mix and you've got ~40 cases a day for a population of 5 million, entirely sustainable.

ACE you can't just take figures out that skew the result away from what you'd prefer. The number of counties showing cases (admittedly low) is growing.

I'm not overly concerned at the moment but the figures are what the figures are.

ACitizenErased · 13-08-2020 06:24PM

froog wrote: »

who is surprised?

You're joking?

froog wrote: »

not good. we need to go back a step or two and fast.

lee_baby_simms · 13-08-2020 06:25PM

Benimar wrote: »

In one sense I admire your 100% positivity, but it’s ok to admit when the numbers aren’t as good as they were.

Covid ICU beds are almost empty across the country. Replicated almost identically across the world where the virus has already risen and fallen.

Do you think that’s due to the competency of our leaders and medical experts and compliance of the public or is something else happening?

Covid 19 Part XXI-27,908 in ROI (1,777 deaths) 6,647 in NI (559 deaths)(22/08)Read OP

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