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carsfan2 · 12-08-2020 01:56PM

bazz26 wrote: »

This is the G30 that caught my eye, similar spec to my F10 minus the sunroof but gains adaptive headlights and HUD as well as xDrive:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2581617&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D10%26o%5B%5D%3D87%26f%3D2%26nn%3D22%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

42k seems expensive to me though and near main BMW dealer money.

I spotted that myself a couple of weeks ago and meant to put it on the thread but forgot.
It’s a super spec and nice colour combo.
I reckon 22k give or take to change.
It’s probably worth a phone call but that’s ball park I’m guessing.

Heres Johnny · 12-08-2020 01:59PM

Augeo wrote: »

Not at all what you want to do but knocking another 12/24 months out of your own wouldn't be the worst idea ........ whatever numbers you are offered now for a 2015 won't be bettered in two years time if you are trying to get out of a 2017 530d.

Many folk are still likely to be working from home to an extent, tax on diesels won't be reducing and there will be more EV options about. I bought a new ish diesel 2 years ago but I can't see it being replaced with a diesel tbh the way things are going.

As you say, 20k to go up two years is fairly unpalatable.

Good advice, whatever is special about the g30 over the f10 in the dealers eyes now causing the big gap in pricing will be the opposite when trading against whatever the g30s successor is.
Also, the gap in 2 years pricing is smaller the older both cars get.

Theboinkmaster · 12-08-2020 05:16PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Hard to give up the comfort and luxury you become used to alright but I wouldn't pay 20k+ just to go up 2 years to be honest, newer model or not.

I think you'd be mad - I've driven a g30 and whilst nice and all, i don't think it's a massive leap up from the F10.

My wife got a g20 this year and that's a massive leap up from the older model IMO.

I'd wait for the next 5 series model and enjoy your car, or maybe consider something different. The current 3 series is a great car, but I find it a bit small compared to my f10.

carsfan2 · 12-08-2020 05:21PM

G30 is a nice step up from the f10 and a model changeover always brings a premium when trading in.
Considering this and the two year difference makes me think low twenties is not surprising to do a deal.
you would essentially be getting the same again, just slightly better and newer however so whether it's worth it to you is all that counts.

bazz26 · 12-08-2020 05:32PM

I'd be happy enough to pay 17/18k tops to go up 2 years but 20k or more, not going to happen. Not that desperate to move up 2 years and there are probably better and cheaper ways of doing it.

Wailin · 12-08-2020 05:44PM

Lovely spec and lovely colour combo bazz, pretty much the same as my old f10. But I'd agree with the comments above after my own experience with trying to trade. I would say they'd be looking at 22-24k. No harm banging off an email or phone call though.

The G30 is an improvement on the f10 in the sense that the interior is more modern and much better tech etc. Driving wise it's a bit sharper but not too different. One thing I will say is bmw have definitely cut corners in some areas of the build quality. The indicator stalks, buttons around i drive and, in particular, gear paddles on steering wheel, are definitely of a lower quality than the f10. The sports auto gear lever in the f10 also feels more premium, especially when using the steptronic shifting. Much quicker response to the changes and shorter movement for a sportier feel when shifting.

But the adaptive lights are a revelation and an absolute must imo. Be interested to hear your opinion after a test drive bazz.

James Bond Junior · 12-08-2020 05:47PM

Would you bite the hot hatch apple Bazz and get an M140i?

Aron722 · 12-08-2020 07:10PM

My insurance is up next week , I normally pay installments but it's gone down a good bit so I'm going to pay it in in full I think it's just better to have it all paid off .

So what happens when i get a new car , would i have to pay extra on top of what I payed in full?

Heres Johnny · 12-08-2020 08:59PM

Aron722 wrote: »

My insurance is up next week , I normally pay installments but it's gone down a good bit so I'm going to pay it in in full I think it's just better to have it all paid off .

So what happens when i get a new car , would i have to pay extra on top of what I payed in full?

If there's an extra charge then yes, proportional for amount of year left on insurance. Unless you're moving to a much higher risk category of vehicle the charge is negligible, often zero and often there's even a refund.

joseywales · 12-08-2020 09:48PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Lads, contemplating moving up a couple of years to another 530d (G30). Would I be mad given the market here for large diesel engines is shrinking even further than it was. Any guesses how much it would roughly cost to go from a 2015 F10 530d M Sport to say a 2017 530d M Sport xDrive? Dealers here seem to be still looking for high 30s or low 40s for them even at 3 years old which seems mad given what they offer for 5 year old ones.

Not interested in the 530e as plugging it in isn't an option for me as installing a home charger is going to be an awkward and expensive job on my house and most petrol G30s are uninteresting 520i. A G20 330i is another option but again there is poor value here so would need to import. Also considered a more fun car to chuck into corners like a Golf GTi or Seat Leon Cupra but they just draw the wrong sort of attention.

FWIW Bazz it cost me €17.5k to upgrade from 161 520d F10 to 182 520d MSport in June this year. Bit more than I expected but very happy with the change. Not the same car as you’re looking at obviously just another indicator.

Lleyn elec · 12-08-2020 10:22PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

Do you know what their budget is?

Not sure to be honest, I’ll find out. I’d assume you’d be looking at 20k plus for as the ULEZ would keep values on Euro 6 high.
Apparently blue effieny models of the 330d euro 5 had low nox and all 335ds were euro 6.
The feeling with him is that x drive might be best avoided second hand with no warranty so that’s all 335ds ruled out I think.

Aron722 · 12-08-2020 10:38PM

Heres Johnny wrote: »

If there's an extra charge then yes, proportional for amount of year left on insurance. Unless you're moving to a much higher risk category of vehicle the charge is negligible, often zero and often there's even a refund.

What would be a higher risk category? I wouldn't go down the years on a car only go up a few years .

12-08-2020 10:44PM

Aron722 wrote: »

What would be a higher risk category? I wouldn't go down the years on a car only go up a few years .

Faster car... Or one likely to be stolen..

digiman · 12-08-2020 10:54PM

There is going to be an M3 touring!

bazz26 · 12-08-2020 11:08PM

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Would you bite the hot hatch apple Bazz and get an M140i?

As good a car as it is I never could warm to the looks of the F20.

joseywales wrote: »

FWIW Bazz it cost me €17.5k to upgrade from 161 520d F10 to 182 520d MSport in June this year. Bit more than I expected but very happy with the change. Not the same car as you’re looking at obviously just another indicator.

In the big scheme of things you did ok there. Just shows you the times we live in when trading up 2 years for 17.5k is deemed ok.

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2020 11:13PM

M140i is a mean looking critter, I'd be driving one only for BMW wanting to make 10k profit on my trade in and openly admitting to it.
I don't think you need a bigger BMW unless your trying to impress the mistress.

JoeA3 · 12-08-2020 11:23PM

A lot of clued in BMW heads here...

Would anyone care to put a fair valuation figure on my own? 171 420d Auto M-Sport+ (usual M Sport stuff plus HK sound, privacy glass, sunroof, electric seats, blue brake callipers, etc). Very unusual “individual” colour and ivory leather. Immaculate inside and out. 51k Kms and 4 fresh premium tyres.

I need to decide what to do with it in the coming months. PCP is up on it in the new year. I don’t think I want to keep it (will need to refinance it to pay off the balloon). With Covid and WFH I actually don’t particularly need a car, certainly not a diesel one. That said I’m drooling over reviews for the MK8 GTI...

I think a BMW dealer will offer me rubbish for it, judging by the posts in this thread. I can’t face the aggravation of DoneDeal either. Not very interested in another BMW tbh. A 330e would intrigue me perhaps but not much else.

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2020 11:39PM

Not many bites on done deal for expenses stuff Joe, I think the market has collapsed. Struggling to sell my own at the moment, 10k stuff is selling but anything over that it seems to have quitened down. Yours and mine will either need a cash buyer or someone with approved finance themselves.
It's hard to put a figure on anything, I can stick mine in the shed for a year or two and hope things improve but it's not looking good out there.
Could have sold my own ten times over a few months ago but new car was delayed so didn't sell it when the going was good.
It'll kill me to let it off to a dealer for buttons, I'd nearly tell them keep the deposit for the new one and I go get myself a trackslags downpipe.

Wailin · 12-08-2020 11:43PM

This one sold at around 26k. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sold/24647951

Bmw dealers have well specced 171 m sports in the region of 32-34k. So going by that, ballpark 30k doing well?

Wailin · 12-08-2020 11:46PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Not many bites on done deal for expenses stuff Joe, I think the market has collapsed. Struggling to sell my own at the moment, 10k stuff is selling but anything over that it seems to have quitened down. Yours and mine will either need a cash buyer or someone with approved finance themselves.
It's hard to put a figure on anything, I can stick mine in the shed for a year or two and hope things improve but it's not looking good out there.
Could have sold my own ten times over a few months ago but new car was delayed so didn't sell it when the going was good.
It'll kill me to let it off to a dealer for buttons, I'd nearly tell them keep the deposit for the new one and I go get myself a trackslags downpipe.

Is yours a golf r? If so I would have thought that would be snapped up quickly for the right price?

drunkmonkey · 12-08-2020 11:58PM

Wailin wrote: »

Is yours a golf r? If so I would have thought that would be snapped up quickly for the right price?

No a manual Revo GTI, I turned down some strong offers earlier in the year and then took it off the market because of the delay in the new one. Since relisting it in the current climate it's hard to even get a bite, worst thing is I love it but in a moment of madness I dropped a 2k deposit on an id.3.
After clocking up 40k on it and getting used to VW servicing costs I could never go back to BMW, but I'm seriously considering telling VW keep the 2k and relisting it in 10yrs time, it's the perfect second car in the house.

bazz26 · 13-08-2020 12:03AM

CIP4 sold his 2018 GTi Performance within a week of putting it up. It was bought by a dealer mind you but he seemed happy enough with the money he got for it.

CIP4 · 13-08-2020 12:04AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No a manual Revo GTI, I turned down some strong offers earlier in the year and then took it off the market because of the delay in the new one. Since relisting it in the current climate it's hard to even get a bite, worst thing is I love it but in a moment of madness I dropped a 2k deposit on an id.3.
After clocking up 40k on it and getting used to VW servicing costs I could never go back to BMW, but I'm seriously considering telling VW keep the 2k and relisting it in 10yrs time, it's the perfect second car in the house.

I just realised now which GTI is yours tbh I can’t understand how you haven’t sold it at that kind of money. I suppose what goes against it is it’s non PP and manual but still I think you have it well priced currently surely someone will snap it up.

drunkmonkey · 13-08-2020 12:24AM

bazz26 wrote: »

CIP4 sold his 2018 GTi Performance within a week of putting it up. It was bought by a dealer mind you but he seemed happy enough with the money he got for it.

I know it was his or mine that particular day, I wouldn't give a rock bottom as they were going to look at his regardless. I'd the accurator plugged out so mine probably didn't sound as fast

Cyrus · 13-08-2020 07:21AM

JoeA3 wrote: »

A lot of clued in BMW heads here...

Would anyone care to put a fair valuation figure on my own? 171 420d Auto M-Sport+ (usual M Sport stuff plus HK sound, privacy glass, sunroof, electric seats, blue brake callipers, etc). Very unusual “individual” colour and ivory leather. Immaculate inside and out. 51k Kms and 4 fresh premium tyres.

I need to decide what to do with it in the coming months. PCP is up on it in the new year. I don’t think I want to keep it (will need to refinance it to pay off the balloon). With Covid and WFH I actually don’t particularly need a car, certainly not a diesel one. That said I’m drooling over reviews for the MK8 GTI...

I think a BMW dealer will offer me rubbish for it, judging by the posts in this thread. I can’t face the aggravation of DoneDeal either. Not very interested in another BMW tbh. A 330e would intrigue me perhaps but not much else.

Would you not trade it to vw for a golf 8 gti on pcp ?

James Bond Junior · 13-08-2020 07:30AM

JoeA3 wrote: »

A lot of clued in BMW heads here...

Would anyone care to put a fair valuation figure on my own? 171 420d Auto M-Sport+ (usual M Sport stuff plus HK sound, privacy glass, sunroof, electric seats, blue brake callipers, etc). Very unusual “individual” colour and ivory leather. Immaculate inside and out. 51k Kms and 4 fresh premium tyres.

I need to decide what to do with it in the coming months. PCP is up on it in the new year. I don’t think I want to keep it (will need to refinance it to pay off the balloon). With Covid and WFH I actually don’t particularly need a car, certainly not a diesel one. That said I’m drooling over reviews for the MK8 GTI...

I think a BMW dealer will offer me rubbish for it, judging by the posts in this thread. I can’t face the aggravation of DoneDeal either. Not very interested in another BMW tbh. A 330e would intrigue me perhaps but not much else.

Why not contact the crowd who bought Wailin's 535d and see would they be interested. Sounds like the exact stock they tend to have in.

JoeA3 · 13-08-2020 07:48AM

Cyrus wrote: »

Would you not trade it to vw for a golf 8 gti on pcp ?

Possibly. I’d say I’ll have v little equity in the Bmw though.

chalky_ie · 13-08-2020 09:42AM

I would say that having the car tuned is contributing to it not moving, most people don't want to buy non stock cars.

13-08-2020 09:58AM

JoeA3 wrote: »

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I need to decide what to do with it in the coming months. PCP is up on it in the new year. I don’t think I want to keep it (will need to refinance it to pay off the balloon). With Covid and WFH I actually don’t particularly need a car, certainly not a diesel one. That said I’m drooling over reviews for the MK8 GTI...

I think a BMW dealer will offer me rubbish for it.............

Could you stomach just handing it back? BMW GFMV are not far off nail on head at times .......... not want you want to hear of course.

James Bond Junior · 13-08-2020 10:20AM

Augeo wrote: »

Could you stomach just handing it back? BMW GFMV are not far off nail on head at times .......... not want you want to hear of course.

Not in my experience. They gave a GMFV for us at 70% of the actual worth give or take a few percent. We paid off the balloon and sold on privately and clawed back a nice few bob back.

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